We’ve invested in powerful, cutting-edge tools that can detect potential issues such as multi-accounting or fraud without requiring intrusive user involvement. These tools allow us to uphold the principles of transparency and fairness while respecting the anonymity our users value.
And how do these tools work? I understand that showing the logic behind your new power might allow cheaters to abuse it. Still, for regular users, I don't think it's fair if they don't know what hit them, especially if we don't know what triggers the false positive. It's not a nice feeling knowing that you might get flagged for multi-account because your ISP register an IP somebody used previously, for example. I'm not a fan of services that claim they use powerful tools if we can't verify anything from our side. 
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November 15, 2024, 09:50:15 PM
November 15, 2024, 11:06:46 AM
It is sad, but that is how it works, money is what seems to be what matters on the destiny of a casino or bookie, not privacy.
That's not a crime. Casino and sportsbook are business, they have the business to generate profit. When a business become big then they need to enforce government regulation, they do not have a choice. If you want to blame anyone for that then blame the system. Not the business owners. 
November 15, 2024, 10:48:09 AM
We're continuously exploring alternative solutions, like wallet-based ID and device fingerprinting, to reduce the need for KYC, though these come with limitations. With time, as we build trust, we aim to keep pushing boundaries to find even better solutions.
Nice to hear that. What kind of solutions are you exploring right now? Is the cost that high that you don't offer them from the beginning? I wonder if users would like to participate in a trial run of such an identification process. However, I'm not sure people will be comfortable with device ID if it requires too many details.Ensuring robust AML safeguards will be critical for long-term success and avoiding regulatory issues, especially given the risks of seizure similar to Chipmixer. Balance and vigilance are key.
I believe there's a difference between not doing the AML/KYC process and deliberately participating in activity such as money laundering though. CMIIW.Thank you for your feedback! We completely understand the importance of balancing security with user comfort and privacy. At our casino, we prioritize creating a seamless and trustworthy experience for our players.
We’ve invested in powerful, cutting-edge tools that can detect potential issues such as multi-accounting or fraud without requiring intrusive user involvement. These tools allow us to uphold the principles of transparency and fairness while respecting the anonymity our users value.
As for additional identification processes, we are continuously exploring solutions that align with Web3 principles and provide value without adding unnecessary friction. While traditional identification processes can be costly and time-intensive, our approach is to implement them only when absolutely necessary—for example, in cases of suspected fraud or extremely high turnover.
Your suggestion for a trial run is interesting! We believe that any system we introduce should not compromise user trust or convenience. For now, our focus is on maintaining a clean, fair platform with minimal intrusion. We’re always open to user input and strive to build features that enhance, rather than hinder, your experience.
You're absolutely correct—there is a significant difference between not performing AML/KYC and actively engaging in illicit activities like money laundering.
November 15, 2024, 05:22:43 AM
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Agreed. A casino focused on privacy and reliability could appeal strongly to players wary of sharing personal information. However, navigating compliance carefully is essential to avoid unintended misuse by bad actors. Ensuring robust AML safeguards will be critical for long-term success and avoiding regulatory issues, especially given the risks of seizure similar to Chipmixer. Balance and vigilance are key.
Agreed. A casino focused on privacy and reliability could appeal strongly to players wary of sharing personal information. However, navigating compliance carefully is essential to avoid unintended misuse by bad actors. Ensuring robust AML safeguards will be critical for long-term success and avoiding regulatory issues, especially given the risks of seizure similar to Chipmixer. Balance and vigilance are key.
Right, but if you are intended to enforce a robust AML environment, would not be a contradiction to remain fully free of KYC? Because (as far as I know), regulators will start to exert pressure on casinos which are relatively big in volume and yet unregistered or unregulated, that is what happened with the service Chipmixer, they kept themselves as a non-KYC privacy platform for a very long time, until gaining enough popularity for them to catch the attention of regulators and they got seized.
Of this casino gets big enough eventually, I am afraid you will have to choose between either keep the casino running and the privacy of all your gamblers.
Since we are talking about a business and an big investment of money and time into building up all this, usually staff of a casino prefer to comply regulators, in detriment of the integrity of their gamblers.
It is sad, but that is how it works, money is what seems to be what matters on the destiny of a casino or bookie, not privacy.
November 15, 2024, 01:22:21 AM
We're continuously exploring alternative solutions, like wallet-based ID and device fingerprinting, to reduce the need for KYC, though these come with limitations. With time, as we build trust, we aim to keep pushing boundaries to find even better solutions.
Nice to hear that. What kind of solutions are you exploring right now? Is the cost that high that you don't offer them from the beginning? I wonder if users would like to participate in a trial run of such an identification process. However, I'm not sure people will be comfortable with device ID if it requires too many details.Ensuring robust AML safeguards will be critical for long-term success and avoiding regulatory issues, especially given the risks of seizure similar to Chipmixer. Balance and vigilance are key.
I believe there's a difference between not doing the AML/KYC process and deliberately participating in activity such as money laundering though. CMIIW. November 14, 2024, 11:54:18 AM
In such cases, we will investigate to confirm it’s a legitimate situation and may ask for KYC only if absolutely necessary to rule out fraud. Once they can show it’s two different people, they'll be allowed to continue playing without issue. Our intention is to support genuine players while protecting the community against fraudulent activity.
I believe the problem is that users can't see whether your intention is genuine or not. I think this is probably solvable with time when your reputation increases, but is there really no alternative other than KYC? I mean if your team when to push for boundaries, this is one of the areas you can tackle and offer unique solutions for. I remember talking about wallet-based identification in the past, where users would need their wallet signature and device ID as an identifier, although I'm not sure if people would like it. It's also easy to bypass, so that's that.
Thank you for your insight! We're fully committed to transparent, fair practices, and we understand concerns around KYC. We're continuously exploring alternative solutions, like wallet-based ID and device fingerprinting, to reduce the need for KYC, though these come with limitations. With time, as we build trust, we aim to keep pushing boundaries to find even better solutions.
I only hope this no-KYC casino can live up to its words eventually. We've seen many of them disappointing in the end, citing regulation. Didn't they know that before luring people into their platforms and letting them believe they had their back?
To be fair regulation is an issue for most of them. The government won't let them run their business without any KYC/AML process, unless of course they don't register their business in their area but it will be another issue of how to trust this new business with no license etc.Personally, as long as they're upfront with how they handle things, I don't think it's a huge issue if a user accepts the terms. Sadly most casinos don't explicitly warn or tell users key details like KYC before they deposit so it complicates things. But yeah, only time will tell.
You’re absolutely right—regulations around KYC/AML are often required for licensed businesses, and transparency is key. We’re committed to being upfront about our KYC policy, and we only apply it under clear, specific conditions. Building trust takes time, but we believe honesty and transparency are the foundation.
I only hope this no-KYC casino can live up to its words eventually. We've seen many of them disappointing in the end, citing regulation. Didn't they know that before luring people into their platforms and letting them believe they had their back?
To be fair regulation is an issue for most of them. The government won't let them run their business without any KYC/AML process, unless of course they don't register their business in their area but it will be another issue of how to trust this new business with no license etc.Personally, as long as they're upfront with how they handle things, I don't think it's a huge issue if a user accepts the terms. Sadly most casinos don't explicitly warn or tell users key details like KYC before they deposit so it complicates things. But yeah, only time will tell.
Honestly, if this casino proves to be reliable in the long term without being properly license, I still could see it being successful within the gambling community, specially those who are concerned with providing their person information to centralized entities and regulators.
Though, they must be very careful when comes to unpurposely providing liquidity money launderers and criminals with their casino, otherwise it could be just matter of time before their domain gets seized by either the European Union or the United States, in a similar manner to what happened to Chipmixer, even though the latter had nothing to do with gambling.
Also, this may be the first casino I have seen which openly claims to make their community to get involved with the resolution of conflicts between the house itself a other gamblers. In that sense, it is an innovation.
Agreed. A casino focused on privacy and reliability could appeal strongly to players wary of sharing personal information. However, navigating compliance carefully is essential to avoid unintended misuse by bad actors. Ensuring robust AML safeguards will be critical for long-term success and avoiding regulatory issues, especially given the risks of seizure similar to Chipmixer. Balance and vigilance are key.
November 14, 2024, 05:33:57 AM
I only hope this no-KYC casino can live up to its words eventually. We've seen many of them disappointing in the end, citing regulation. Didn't they know that before luring people into their platforms and letting them believe they had their back?
To be fair regulation is an issue for most of them. The government won't let them run their business without any KYC/AML process, unless of course they don't register their business in their area but it will be another issue of how to trust this new business with no license etc.Personally, as long as they're upfront with how they handle things, I don't think it's a huge issue if a user accepts the terms. Sadly most casinos don't explicitly warn or tell users key details like KYC before they deposit so it complicates things. But yeah, only time will tell.
Honestly, if this casino proves to be reliable in the long term without being properly license, I still could see it being successful within the gambling community, specially those who are concerned with providing their person information to centralized entities and regulators.
Though, they must be very careful when comes to unpurposely providing liquidity money launderers and criminals with their casino, otherwise it could be just matter of time before their domain gets seized by either the European Union or the United States, in a similar manner to what happened to Chipmixer, even though the latter had nothing to do with gambling.
Also, this may be the first casino I have seen which openly claims to make their community to get involved with the resolution of conflicts between the house itself a other gamblers. In that sense, it is an innovation.
November 13, 2024, 10:29:29 PM
I only hope this no-KYC casino can live up to its words eventually. We've seen many of them disappointing in the end, citing regulation. Didn't they know that before luring people into their platforms and letting them believe they had their back?
To be fair regulation is an issue for most of them. The government won't let them run their business without any KYC/AML process, unless of course they don't register their business in their area but it will be another issue of how to trust this new business with no license etc.Personally, as long as they're upfront with how they handle things, I don't think it's a huge issue if a user accepts the terms. Sadly most casinos don't explicitly warn or tell users key details like KYC before they deposit so it complicates things. But yeah, only time will tell.
November 13, 2024, 07:01:12 AM
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I only hope this no-KYC casino can live up to its words eventually. We've seen many of them disappointing in the end, citing regulation. Didn't they know that before luring people into their platforms and letting them believe they had their back?
November 12, 2024, 10:16:56 PM
In such cases, we will investigate to confirm it’s a legitimate situation and may ask for KYC only if absolutely necessary to rule out fraud. Once they can show it’s two different people, they'll be allowed to continue playing without issue. Our intention is to support genuine players while protecting the community against fraudulent activity.
I believe the problem is that users can't see whether your intention is genuine or not. I think this is probably solvable with time when your reputation increases, but is there really no alternative other than KYC? I mean if your team when to push for boundaries, this is one of the areas you can tackle and offer unique solutions for. I remember talking about wallet-based identification in the past, where users would need their wallet signature and device ID as an identifier, although I'm not sure if people would like it. It's also easy to bypass, so that's that.
November 11, 2024, 06:55:49 PM
Great observation! The no-KYC approach does indeed open the door for those who might face cultural or religious restrictions, allowing them to play privately. However, the main reason for our no-KYC model is that, in 99% of cases, KYC requirements are used primarily to delay withdrawals. We believe it’s far more beneficial to streamline the experience for users rather than put up unnecessary barriers.
And yes, we’re not a typical team—we’re little crazy when it comes to pushing boundaries and creating a better experience for players! By focusing on fairness and efficiency, we're setting ourselves apart from the usual crowd and building something truly different.
The privacy was important for some gamblers in the gambling site,this No kyc was the key concept used by your gambling site.The big withdrawal needs of the kyc in the gambling site,this initiative was plays a major role for the gambling site with this special features.Some gamblers will skip to withdraw the winning money in the gambling site to avoid of showing their real identification in the transaction.Because they also need to pay the taxes for the transaction of money from gambling site.Your gambling site had broken that biggest hurdle to the gamblers.The forum will support you till you are legit in your business.Good luck to your gambling site.
November 11, 2024, 02:00:34 PM
Thank you for the feedback and the warm welcome! We wanted to keep the thread informative to start, but we’re definitely planning to enhance it with visuals and improve the layout over time. Gradually, we’ll add more engaging content to make it more appealing and easier to follow. Thanks again for the suggestion—stay tuned for updates!
This thread will help the gamblers to get more information about your project,you can also use this thread to update your further announcements about the project.Secondly you can use this thread to solve the issue in your site which was used by our forum members.If you are trusted casino many of our forum members use the gambling site.I had seen some good impact for the No Kyc casino will help many new people to use your platform without any kyc and without sharing their real identification.Many people from some communities want to play but their religion was against gambling,in that case this No kyc will helpful to your casino.
Great observation! The no-KYC approach does indeed open the door for those who might face cultural or religious restrictions, allowing them to play privately. However, the main reason for our no-KYC model is that, in 99% of cases, KYC requirements are used primarily to delay withdrawals. We believe it’s far more beneficial to streamline the experience for users rather than put up unnecessary barriers.
And yes, we’re not a typical team—we’re little crazy when it comes to pushing boundaries and creating a better experience for players! By focusing on fairness and efficiency, we're setting ourselves apart from the usual crowd and building something truly different.
November 11, 2024, 11:33:47 AM
Thank you for the feedback and the warm welcome! We wanted to keep the thread informative to start, but we’re definitely planning to enhance it with visuals and improve the layout over time. Gradually, we’ll add more engaging content to make it more appealing and easier to follow. Thanks again for the suggestion—stay tuned for updates!
This thread will help the gamblers to get more information about your project,you can also use this thread to update your further announcements about the project.Secondly you can use this thread to solve the issue in your site which was used by our forum members.If you are trusted casino many of our forum members use the gambling site.I had seen some good impact for the No Kyc casino will help many new people to use your platform without any kyc and without sharing their real identification.Many people from some communities want to play but their religion was against gambling,in that case this No kyc will helpful to your casino.
November 11, 2024, 04:39:04 AM
We're going to make this community a jury, we'll be transparent about all complaints from disgruntled users, the whole community will judge, and 5-8 random people will decide how we should handle such cases. We already have 15k users and no one complains, except for the bonus hunters who don't even respond when we inform them that their account is blocked. It's fact.
To my mind, you chose a very good strategy. The demand from people is on no KYC casinos, which you fulfil and also another demand is that people want to feel safe and secure when gambling on a website. If something wrong happens, Bitcointalk is the first website where people come and open scam accusation threads.There was a talk about multiple accounts and I want to know, what happens when two relatives play from the same computer or the same IP address? Should they do KYC verification? If they do and they prove that it's two different accounts, will they have a permit to continue gambling?
As a no kyc casino, not even multi-accounting should make the casino impose kyc verification on a user, they need or have to find another way of dealing with such issue, demanding kyc verification is a total breach of their terms and conditions.
Except the terms and conditions states that kyc verification may be required in such a case where a user is suspected of multi-accounting, then it simply means that the casino is not truly a kyc free casino, there is no two ways about this..
I agree with this statement. No KYC means no KYC, there shouldn't be exceptions and if there are, it will frighten people.Except the terms and conditions states that kyc verification may be required in such a case where a user is suspected of multi-accounting, then it simply means that the casino is not truly a kyc free casino, there is no two ways about this..
Thank you for understanding our approach so well! You've captured exactly what we're aiming for with transparency and community involvement. We want to create an environment where players feel secure and know they’re playing on a fair, transparent platform. The community-driven jury is a big part of that vision, as it empowers our users to have a say in maintaining integrity.
Regarding the question of multiple accounts from the same IP or computer—especially for family members or relatives—our main goal is fairness. We don’t intend to use our rules against honest players. In such cases, we will investigate to confirm it’s a legitimate situation and may ask for KYC only if absolutely necessary to rule out fraud. Once they can show it’s two different people, they'll be allowed to continue playing without issue. Our intention is to support genuine players while protecting the community against fraudulent activity.
November 10, 2024, 03:14:11 PM
We're going to make this community a jury, we'll be transparent about all complaints from disgruntled users, the whole community will judge, and 5-8 random people will decide how we should handle such cases. We already have 15k users and no one complains, except for the bonus hunters who don't even respond when we inform them that their account is blocked. It's fact.
To my mind, you chose a very good strategy. The demand from people is on no KYC casinos, which you fulfil and also another demand is that people want to feel safe and secure when gambling on a website. If something wrong happens, Bitcointalk is the first website where people come and open scam accusation threads.There was a talk about multiple accounts and I want to know, what happens when two relatives play from the same computer or the same IP address? Should they do KYC verification? If they do and they prove that it's two different accounts, will they have a permit to continue gambling?
As a no kyc casino, not even multi-accounting should make the casino impose kyc verification on a user, they need or have to find another way of dealing with such issue, demanding kyc verification is a total breach of their terms and conditions.
Except the terms and conditions states that kyc verification may be required in such a case where a user is suspected of multi-accounting, then it simply means that the casino is not truly a kyc free casino, there is no two ways about this..
I agree with this statement. No KYC means no KYC, there shouldn't be exceptions and if there are, it will frighten people. Except the terms and conditions states that kyc verification may be required in such a case where a user is suspected of multi-accounting, then it simply means that the casino is not truly a kyc free casino, there is no two ways about this..
November 10, 2024, 07:09:28 AM
hey welcome here in bitcointalk , your thread seem to be not attracting mate , you need to add some photos and looks into this thread .
Thank you for the feedback and the warm welcome! We wanted to keep the thread informative to start, but we’re definitely planning to enhance it with visuals and improve the layout over time. Gradually, we’ll add more engaging content to make it more appealing and easier to follow. Thanks again for the suggestion—stay tuned for updates!
November 10, 2024, 04:39:54 AM
hey welcome here in bitcointalk , your thread seem to be not attracting mate , you need to add some photos and looks into this thread .
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November 09, 2024, 02:46:25 PM
We use a tool to detect multi-accounting, and if a customer has deposited without documents, it's just a no-brainer to ask for documents to withdraw.
This statement confused me. Will your site ask for documents if multiple accounts have been detected or will y'all ask for other reasons? If it's the latter, it doesn't make any sense since y'all keep stressing no KYC.Also, as @panjul07 mentioned, using fraud reasoning as a tool is common in crypto gambling sites and I hope your team doesn't resort to this unethical tactic.
And let me also say that I agree with you, isn't it a breach of the terms and conditions of the casino if for whatever reason, they ask a user for kyc verification when they have advertised themselves as a no kyc casino?
As a no kyc casino, not even multi-accounting should make the casino impose kyc verification on a user, they need or have to find another way of dealing with such issue, demanding kyc verification is a total breach of their terms and conditions.
Except the terms and conditions states that kyc verification may be required in such a case where a user is suspected of multi-accounting, then it simply means that the casino is not truly a kyc free casino, there is no two ways about this..
November 09, 2024, 02:22:26 PM
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11.The maximum winnings that will be paid out resulting from a wagering bonus is five times (5x) the initial bonus amount. Any winnings exceeding this amount will be forfeited.
Thank you for your input. It's true that bonuses are attractive to slot players, especially since slots contribute 100% towards wagering requirements. However, we want to be transparent that our bonuses come with a maximum withdrawal limit. This is because we see bonuses as a way to provide extra playtime and enjoyment, with the trade-off of certain restrictions.
While it's true that players take on more risk when trying to meet wagering requirements, bonuses can still be an ideal option for those who prioritize fun and extended gameplay. If a player prefers fewer restrictions and more straightforward play, using their real balance is a better option, as it avoids the wagering risks and withdrawal limits associated with bonuses.
We appreciate your understanding and hope this helps clarify the options
In the end, you didn't remove this rule? I am confused... you didn't clarify anything. You "provide extra playtime and enjoyment" at the player's cost, and that's fine, we are speaking about slots. But if you have a limit on withdrawal that means that if some player gets lucky and hits something nice while having fun risking his money you will not pay. This type of rule is beyond logic... you allow people to play slots with a max $10 spin, but if they win something really big you will just hold with your "max winning" rule and you will not payout. And slot players know how risky can be to play slots with that amount...
I fell for this trick a couple of times and never again. I also advise others not to try to play slots in casinos that have this "max win" and "max withdrawal" rule.
I appreciate your understanding and hope this helps clarify my standing.
November 09, 2024, 08:26:16 AM
Interesting bonuses and promotions, but when I saw this rule I lost the desire to sign up and try any of them:
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11.The maximum winnings that will be paid out resulting from a wagering bonus is five times (5x) the initial bonus amount. Any winnings exceeding this amount will be forfeited.
Thank you for sharing your experience and feedback. We truly value our community's input, and your comments have sparked an important change. We understand that limitations like the one mentioned can be discouraging for players looking to get the most out of their gaming experience.
After considering your feedback, we've decided to remove the rule limiting maximum winnings from wagering bonuses to 5x the initial bonus amount.
We strive to create an environment where players can enjoy their favorite providers, even when using a VPN for accessibility, as long as it complies with our terms. Your voice helps shape this space, and we appreciate your contribution to making our platform better.
We hope this change will enhance your experience and reignite your interest in joining our community
Players who decide to play with a bonus usually play slots, at least that's how it is in my case... and only slots contribute 100% towards the rollover requirement. When we decide to risk and play slots it's ridiculous to have a maximum winning limit, we risk a lot by playing slots and trying to complete wagering requirements (which is not so easy & simple with slots), and if we get lucky it won't count. So why would we even try such a bonus? It's better to skip it and play without it...
Just to be clear we are on the same page... There are no winning limitations, so when a player completes the wagering requirement he can keep his entire balance & all his winnings (if there are any)?
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