Topic: 🔷 Niyvi.com – No KYC Withdrawals, VPN Friendly & Exclusive Bonuses! 🔷 - page 3. (Read 1465 times)

It's not weird to allow players to use a VPN, I use it when I wish to play some providers... times are different, but +5 years ago I couldn't play Pragmatic, NoLimit, Relax, and some other providers anywhere without a VPN. In my opinion, and experience, it's ok to use VPN for that, but when you try to bypass your country restriction you can run into problems.

Interesting bonuses and promotions, but when I saw this rule I lost the desire to sign up  and try any of them:

There is no two ways about this, as long as the casino is a centralised casino, regardless of how privacy friendly that the casino promise, at some level, users will still have to let go of their privacy in cases where the players will need to verify their identity, KYC is often used to act as if the site is privacy firendly, but along the line their will have to comply with regulations and also act to protect the system from abusers.

For some reason many centralised casinos makes such head line like no kyc/VPN friendly all with the aim to attract player's to the casino, but very important to read the casino terms and conditions and apply them.

are the bonus hunters wrong in your opinion?
i think if they didn't exist your casino wouldn't be more famous, because of course you would make any bonus promotion every time to find more users, and it looks weird when you allow VPN users

We're going to make this community a jury, we'll be transparent about all complaints from disgruntled users, the whole community will judge, and 5-8 random people will decide how we should handle such cases. We already have 15k users and no one complains, except for the bonus hunters who don't even respond when we inform them that their account is blocked. It's fact.

You haven't given the clear answer to the inquiries of above user. Your team gives priority to privacy and wants to operate as a no-KYC casino. At the same time, you will ask the users to complete KYC verification in case of fraudulent activity. Don't you consider the usage of multiple account for bonus and some other kind of abuse as fraudulent activity? If Niyvi system considers such thing as fraudulent activity, then your team will apply KYC verification rules in such cases, isn't it?

To ensure a fair and enjoyable experience for all players, any detected instances of multi-accounting, bonus abuse, or free spin misuse will result in immediate account suspension. In certain cases, we may offer players the choice to forfeit winnings, bonuses, or free spins to retain access to their account; otherwise, a permanent ban will be enforced. We prioritize transparency and fair play, and we ask our players to respect these guidelines.

This statement confused me. Will your site ask for documents if multiple accounts have been detected or will y'all ask for other reasons? If it's the latter, it doesn't make any sense since y'all keep stressing no KYC.

Also, as @panjul07 mentioned, using fraud reasoning as a tool is common in crypto gambling sites and I hope your team doesn't resort to this unethical tactic.

Looks like that was the case. Not really surprising considering OP's response though. As long as they don't do it silently and always declare whenever any significant changes happen, I think that's not a big issue.

Yeah, at the very least they should give examples so users will know the general boundaries of what should they do and don't. I don't expect them to be so rigid though since there's no way you can describe every context with a clear definition. CMIIW.

Thanks for the feedback, we appreciate it, I want to tell you a little bit about our team, not many but experienced in this field, I will refrain from naming specific companies because I don't know their opinion, but our team has a big role in the success of many successful products.
During this time we have seen many different approaches, and the most profitable of these has been to take care of the customer, as in local licenses. Well, we decided to create a crypto platform where we wouldn't start lying for self-justifying reasons, because too many brands use vpn and kyc to save time. We think the crypto platform allows you to stay anonymous. We use a tool to detect multi-accounting, and if a customer has deposited without documents, it's just a no-brainer to ask for documents to withdraw.
Of course, we will investigate fraud cases, we just want to create a precedent for justice and we expect great benefits from this, the content is specifically part of the rules to be refined and we are working on it, we will reserve defensive means but we will not use it against the user, we can argue about any topic and that is why I like this community. We think Web Casino is a uniquely Web3 product, and we'll talk more about it in the future. Cleanliness is essential in Web3!

Section 4.1 - 4.2 of the Terms and conditions of the casino said something about the use of their service in a jurisdiction that has banned gambling activities - in such a senecio if you should use it and gave any legal issue, the company will not help you in any way and also won’t be held accountable - and also if they should suspect any suspicious activity (since this is the only time they claim to ask user to verify their details) you also won’t be able to do that despite them being no kyced.

You have a very good point which I very much agree with, if you try to read my previous comment as it bothers casinos licenses, specially that particular one from Curaçao, you will always read me say that i see them as nothing but decoration for the casino, because it's absolutely useless in terms of its benefits to gamblers, in fact, I sincerely don't see Curaçao gambling casino license as a license at all since it's one that even scammers can use to operate scam casinos.

What i said about government being responsible for issuing license to casinos is based on assumptions that what we are talking about is a real casino license, not the Curaçao type, but unfortunately, Curaçao seems like it's the only body available to issue license to casinos because it's not just the cheapest, but also the easiest to get - but as well useless to gamblers (personal opinion though)

welcome to the forum, it is rare for a casino platform to allow its users to use kyc, it is quite good for people who are in countries where online gambling is illegal, but for countries where gambling is illegal, they will be suspicious of niyvi casinos, how do you respond to this?

Just checked your ANN out which could use some work along with the site itself. Black design is alright, but it could look a lot better. A FAQ section should be added to the bottom of the page answering basic queries.

Also, it's tough to trust any centralised casino stating no KYC these days which is why only time will tell if this particular statement is actually true or not. All the best team!

Can you guarantee that Niyvi wont ask for any verification even for players who win bigger amounts?
I know some bigger casinos claimed they wont ask any kyc but than they started locking accounts and seizing customer coins.
We are not talking about fraud and cheating cases but long term forum members.

It seems that they have removed the information about the $30k turnover because I cant find it on their terms page unless I missed it but I tried to Ctrl+F by using the keywords "30" and "turnover" and the result is nothing.
What I can find is:


The fraudulent activity can be something questionable because casino may say it anytime to any players but I hope this casino will not use this "fraudulent activity" as a weapon to force players to conduct KYC.
Perhaps we will see it later after few weeks or few months if there will be some players report here that they are being asked to do KYC verification process.

Well, if a casino does not have KYC, it is good for most of the gamblers but we have seen that such casino do not have any Licenses and they are likely to quit or scam more often than others. I wonder how long Niyvi will be able to operate without the KYC or whether they may implement KYC sometime later as it is just the beginning of their business and providing a KYC free casino will attract a lot of people. Also those who are underage, those people will gamble here as they do not need to proof their age or identity.

It's funny that I've never read any news saying that the government of Curacao is inspecting all casinos that have a Curacao license. What I've seen are people saying that they complained to the Curacao license provider about a casino that stole money from them, but that the license provider didn't respond to them and didn't solve their problems. Honestly, I always wonder how important licenses are. That's why I don't judge casinos by their licenses. I always prefer to research the reputation of the casino. Of course, if the casino also has a license, it just puts me at ease in the sense that the casino spent money to get a license, so it won't commit a scam any time soon. It can stay in operation for a while to recover the money it spent on the license and other things. But I'd only invest a little money if I were to use a new casino.

Well, casinos that are completely kyc free usually do not have a license, or an original license, because if they do, they won't be operating as a kyc free casino.
License issuers are a government body that is assigned with this responsibility, and we all know that government can't do without wanting to know who we are at all levels, so to imagine that a casino with a legitimate operational license from the government will operate on a kyc free model is like day dreaming.

As much as I personally love the model and the way this casino has advertised itself, I won't trust it completely until after (perhaps) a year or two when they must have gotten a lot of customers and made themselve trustworthy and gains a good reputation.

Welcome to the forum, guys. What do you exactly mean by the word “Niyvi”? I am just curious about it—the reason behind it for naming the casino such a unique name. I see that no KYC is required and VPN is also allowed. But this will lead to multi-accounting in the future. Have you thought about this? Moreover, if seriously no KYC is entertained, then does it mean the casino doesn’t have a proper license? At last I liked the part that we bitcointalk people have exclusive bonuses. I will surely check this out and will leave a detailed review on the games and user experience.

Coming across this Ann thread for the very first time today, so let me begin by first saying a warm welcome to the Niyvi.com, I am actually wondering what the name or title "Niyvi" really means, but then, it's not all that important to know anyways, what is really important is that a good service is linked to it.

I've visited the website and I must say that it loads pretty fast, this is the very first thing I noticed, for this days, I hardly come by sites that loads completely within or in a matter of a second or two - good job there and kudos.
And Secondly, the design is nice, though not really out of the ordinary but still very lovable.

I will go through the reviews here and see if the casino is worth a try, it's good to learn that the casino is kyc free, and accepts users using vpn to play, but I am really wondering if the management will be able to keep the site like this for several years to come.. 🤔