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June 17, 2023, 01:23:10 PM
If we want to stop an addict then we have to take a serious approach to them. It won't be easy and for sure it will take a long process before they really realize what they are doing is wrong. I agree with you that maybe a spiritual or heart-to-heart approach might help to brainwash those who have been indoctrinated with addiction to some extent. But it's also not an easy task, because they will also refuse at first, it requires patience if you want the method to run smoothly, we will definitely put more effort into it.
Depends on the addict. Some are just calm and will follow the suggestion of the people around them while some are violent but we can always force them. There are injections that can make them fall asleep and it's now easy for them to bring in the rehabilitation center. The recovery will depend on how severe their addiction is.

A spiritual approach looks interesting but I think it can work like a charm too. I already witnessed some people who have bad habits have changed because of a spiritual approach. This includes reading the bible, worshiping god, and listening to the life testimonies of others on how they change their life with the same approach.
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June 16, 2023, 06:42:56 PM
Absolutely right that mate because every bet is based on our luck and we can not sure the outcome of our every bet. Anyways betting is more on analyzing because if we want to win in our bet then make sure we are ready to analyze the game before we play. Seek for the options or seeking of ideas how it works and how to win the game. Because once we are greedy then we will loss.

This statement is contradicting to each other if you are pertaining to the game that is pure luck based like slot because you done need a thorough analysis skills on games like this because you already said that the outcome is based on luck. Analysis won’t give you an edge to increase your winning percentage.

Analysis is only applicable on games that is skill based such sport betting, poker and blackjack with card count possible. But the rest of luck based games is designed for player to just hit the play button and have fun with the random result.

I don't really like slots because that is losing faster for me, I have tried to play to win, but the people who win a lot in slots are because they make very big bets and at the right time, I don't have that experience To do it, I only bet very linearly and I don't make bets that are so strong, because with just one that I make strong and I lose it, I run out of money available to bet, so I prefer to play other games, like craps, or play poker. , another thing that does not imply making bets almost without knowing, because I really do not know how to play slots, I think I can play better at roulette than in slots.


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June 16, 2023, 10:10:49 AM
It is possible to conduct an approach to gambling that is strategic an logical. This is about trying to understand the odds, the possibilities and what drives the game dynamics in a certain gambling event. There is nothing as wasted as long as you take such an approach and have a theory you are testing or a logic that you are following in your gambling. That is, if you learn somehting.
We can analyze the game that we want to gamble or play all we need to do is more on research and find the purpose of the game or find what are the possible outcome.  We can use our strategic mind or logical mind in order to gave a good outcome of our bet. But anyway there are no waste of bet because we can learn with our own mistake .
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June 16, 2023, 09:50:46 AM
It is possible to conduct an approach to gambling that is strategic an logical. This is about trying to understand the odds, the possibilities and what drives the game dynamics in a certain gambling event. There is nothing as wasted as long as you take such an approach and have a theory you are testing or a logic that you are following in your gambling. That is, if you learn somehting.
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June 16, 2023, 05:57:05 AM
If we want to stop an addict then we have to take a serious approach to them. It won't be easy and for sure it will take a long process before they really realize what they are doing is wrong. I agree with you that maybe a spiritual or heart-to-heart approach might help to brainwash those who have been indoctrinated with addiction to some extent. But it's also not an easy task, because they will also refuse at first, it requires patience if you want the method to run smoothly, we will definitely put more effort into it.
Yes mate, if we keep pressure on an addicted gambler there is no possibility of getting any desired results. Because a gambler can continue gambling invisibly. But if he can be convinced through counseling it can be a good step through which he can come out of his addiction. I agree with you 100% that it would not be easy. Unless the gambler wants to get rid of his addiction by himself, it is impossible to get him on the right track.
The best way to treat an addict is through therapy, counselling, emotional manipulation and all these goes in gradual process. You cannot really solve it with only laws or advice. You have to be determined and follow up in steps . Some addicts are really tired of it and they just need someone to help them and place them in the right direction to defeat addiction.

For Op, some bets are waste especially those below 1 odd. The day that 0.8 odds made me loose an accumulated betting I stopped betting on rubbish odds.
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June 16, 2023, 05:03:56 AM
well, even though OP is active on the forum and posting regularly he has stopped updating this thread with the game predictions, I suppose he must have realized that he was getting a lot more wrong than getting his game predictions right, it's not easy, in fact it becomes mission impossible to get constant hits in the games every day, most of the time we are faced with the worst of the worst scenarios which are the consecutive losses and bankruptcy of our bankroll and this is expected to happen but we all only realize it later many long years of playing

for example if a person takes 1$ and is betting on games with odds of @1.50 then that person will need to be right in more than 2 games to be able to make a profit and it is enough to lose in only 1 game to have a loss and will have to place more money and having to hit more games to make a profit, that's why the only viable solution is betting odds with @2.00 or higher but at the same time these are games that are more difficult to predict the result and with that the person will have more losses than victories and it will go bankrupt sooner or later. you can also make a multibet bet that if you hit a multibet with an odd of @10.00 or more then you will be compensating for closes, but it is very risky to predict the results of many games, at the end of the day games have to be seen only as fun
Indeed, the streaks of predictions may have led the OP to halt updates, especially given the inherent unpredictability of games. When one indulges in gambling, the principle of the 'house always wins' is typically at play. The odds are stacked against players, making consistent winning streaks almost a paradox.

Moreover, your point about the odds of @1.50 leading to a need to win more than two games for profit is mathematically valid. Yet, it simplifies the complexity of betting on games. The psychology of gambling, including the illusion of control and gambler's fallacy, often leads people to underestimate the risk and overestimate their chances of winning.

Betting on higher odds (@2.00 or more) might appear as a better strategy on paper, but the increased difficulty in predicting the outcomes negates any benefits. Even if one hits a multibet with an odd of @10.00, the risk is extremely high, making it far from a viable solution.
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June 15, 2023, 12:18:03 PM
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I don't think that is possible. You can't stop an addicted gambler with a mere advise. You have to counsel the person first then do some spiritual work works like Fasting and Prayer. Because addiction is not a physical battle but a spiritual one so one has to deal with it with the spiritual way.
Advice and real help can enlighten them that their gambling addiction can be cured and give them confidence again that their problem can be overcome. And when he wants to open up to receive help, we have to help him seriously so that he is more serious about healing himself from his gambling addiction.

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At that time the only thing they think of is to play games whether they lose or win is not their business all what they want is to play games. So any amount of money they have from minor works out would be used to gamble untill they empty the pocket. If they eat before coming to the hall is their luck.
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If so, they can experience many losses, especially if they can't stop before the money runs out. Many have experienced it, and even they continue to play gambling and do not reduce the amount of money or time spent gambling. And this will trigger gambling addiction which can come at any time. If this happens, they will find it difficult to leave gambling and really need help from others.
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June 15, 2023, 10:46:49 AM
Absolutely right that mate because every bet is based on our luck and we can not sure the outcome of our every bet. Anyways betting is more on analyzing because if we want to win in our bet then make sure we are ready to analyze the game before we play. Seek for the options or seeking of ideas how it works and how to win the game. Because once we are greedy then we will loss.

This statement is contradicting to each other if you are pertaining to the game that is pure luck based like slot because you done need a thorough analysis skills on games like this because you already said that the outcome is based on luck. Analysis won’t give you an edge to increase your winning percentage.

Analysis is only applicable on games that is skill based such sport betting, poker and blackjack with card count possible. But the rest of luck based games is designed for player to just hit the play button and have fun with the random result.
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June 15, 2023, 09:45:00 AM
There's nothing wrong with that, but it's still not worth it. We tend to forget the experiences we have gained to continue what we have been doing. And that's what happens to us so that the same experiences or mistakes are repeated.

We must minimize more losses by limiting the money we gamble. Even though we have experienced defeat, we should stop immediately and calm down before we lose more money. And if we have experienced or made mistakes, we should learn by contemplating for a moment what we have done. In this way, we can know how to fix the mistake so that we don't repeat it in the future.

Actually every bet our made is not just waste it because every bet we made and even we loss then we gathered some knowledge through it, or we just learn something new, we can keep betting and fave the reality that gambling is base on luck sometimes we will win and sometimes we will loss. It's unpredictable and once we got failed then for sure I'm the future we won't to it to avoid such mistake.
In every case we place bets only to win, but many a times it results in losing bets. Every bet should be played with our skill only then there will be a chance of winning the bet. When a new gambler places a bet he is always thinking about how to profit from the bet. But it is very important to have enough ideas while gambling. When we lose the bet something new. I am interested to learn. But I think that winning in betting depends a lot on luck. Moreover, I have lost most of the times I have bet, so it is certain that in the future, a sufficient amount of knowledge and skill is required to bet profitably.

Absolutely right that mate because every bet is based on our luck and we can not sure the outcome of our every bet. Anyways betting is more on analyzing because if we want to win in our bet then make sure we are ready to analyze the game before we play. Seek for the options or seeking of ideas how it works and how to win the game. Because once we are greedy then we will loss.
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June 15, 2023, 03:14:10 AM
There's nothing wrong with that, but it's still not worth it. We tend to forget the experiences we have gained to continue what we have been doing. And that's what happens to us so that the same experiences or mistakes are repeated.

We must minimize more losses by limiting the money we gamble. Even though we have experienced defeat, we should stop immediately and calm down before we lose more money. And if we have experienced or made mistakes, we should learn by contemplating for a moment what we have done. In this way, we can know how to fix the mistake so that we don't repeat it in the future.

Actually every bet our made is not just waste it because every bet we made and even we loss then we gathered some knowledge through it, or we just learn something new, we can keep betting and fave the reality that gambling is base on luck sometimes we will win and sometimes we will loss. It's unpredictable and once we got failed then for sure I'm the future we won't to it to avoid such mistake.
In every case we place bets only to win, but many a times it results in losing bets. Every bet should be played with our skill only then there will be a chance of winning the bet. When a new gambler places a bet he is always thinking about how to profit from the bet. But it is very important to have enough ideas while gambling. When we lose the bet something new. I am interested to learn. But I think that winning in betting depends a lot on luck. Moreover, I have lost most of the times I have bet, so it is certain that in the future, a sufficient amount of knowledge and skill is required to bet profitably.
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June 15, 2023, 02:55:22 AM
If we want to stop an addict then we have to take a serious approach to them. It won't be easy and for sure it will take a long process before they really realize what they are doing is wrong. I agree with you that maybe a spiritual or heart-to-heart approach might help to brainwash those who have been indoctrinated with addiction to some extent. But it's also not an easy task, because they will also refuse at first, it requires patience if you want the method to run smoothly, we will definitely put more effort into it.
Yes mate, if we keep pressure on an addicted gambler there is no possibility of getting any desired results. Because a gambler can continue gambling invisibly. But if he can be convinced through counseling it can be a good step through which he can come out of his addiction. I agree with you 100% that it would not be easy. Unless the gambler wants to get rid of his addiction by himself, it is impossible to get him on the right track.
Now, in the end, we only need to see the seriousness of the gamblers themselves, whether they intend to or not when talking about quitting gambling.
As long as the addict becomes really serious about wanting to quit then indeed this can be easy but if there is still doubt in them then saying easy things can become nonsense in the end.
Gambling is like a condition where it is very difficult to get rid of because indeed the conditions can be just as complicated as when we try to quit smoking because when we try the distractions will get bigger.
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June 15, 2023, 02:20:25 AM
The more we gamble the more we are learning from what we do and from others people's experience in addition to that, asise the fun we have while gambling, there are other emotional and psychological benefits we get from using an online casinos when gambling, there are other benefits we stand to gain whenever we gamble such as getting new ideas, informations, skills and technical experience in doing things a logical way.
Agree with this.

Over time, we learn different things base from our very own experiences or from others. We might also learn a thing or two from the information provided all over the Internet. If we happen to have failed bets, it's not totally useless especially if you did your best in having a strategy to play or if you poured your heart out for doing a research for sportsbetting. It will teach you a lesson even if it won't give you money for losing so. With that, you can equip yourself with more knowledge and confidence the next time you bet and play. But of course, it should still be done with caution and moderation.
I believe it only applies to sports betting where one can learn from their mistakes and don't repeat them or simply learn from the mistakes of others and try not to do what they did which caused them losses. In gambling where games are played, you can't really use your experience to win or any knowledge or mistakes can make you win, mistakes in gambling games can only teach you to control your emotions and don't bet big only to recover losses.

Those who try to recover their losses by using higher bets tend to lose more than what they've already lost instead of recovering anything, so someone should simply keep their emotions under control when they are playing games in gambling to avoid excessive losses.
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June 15, 2023, 01:40:20 AM
If we want to stop an addict then we have to take a serious approach to them. It won't be easy and for sure it will take a long process before they really realize what they are doing is wrong. I agree with you that maybe a spiritual or heart-to-heart approach might help to brainwash those who have been indoctrinated with addiction to some extent. But it's also not an easy task, because they will also refuse at first, it requires patience if you want the method to run smoothly, we will definitely put more effort into it.
Yes mate, if we keep pressure on an addicted gambler there is no possibility of getting any desired results. Because a gambler can continue gambling invisibly. But if he can be convinced through counseling it can be a good step through which he can come out of his addiction. I agree with you 100% that it would not be easy. Unless the gambler wants to get rid of his addiction by himself, it is impossible to get him on the right track.
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June 14, 2023, 04:14:56 PM
well, even though OP is active on the forum and posting regularly he has stopped updating this thread with the game predictions, I suppose he must have realized that he was getting a lot more wrong than getting his game predictions right, it's not easy, in fact it becomes mission impossible to get constant hits in the games every day, most of the time we are faced with the worst of the worst scenarios which are the consecutive losses and bankruptcy of our bankroll and this is expected to happen but we all only realize it later many long years of playing

for example if a person takes 1$ and is betting on games with odds of @1.50 then that person will need to be right in more than 2 games to be able to make a profit and it is enough to lose in only 1 game to have a loss and will have to place more money and having to hit more games to make a profit, that's why the only viable solution is betting odds with @2.00 or higher but at the same time these are games that are more difficult to predict the result and with that the person will have more losses than victories and it will go bankrupt sooner or later. you can also make a multibet bet that if you hit a multibet with an odd of @10.00 or more then you will be compensating for closes, but it is very risky to predict the results of many games, at the end of the day games have to be seen only as fun
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June 14, 2023, 11:23:33 AM
Those who are already addicted to gambling need help from the people around them to stop it before it worsens.
I don't think that is possible. You can't stop an addicted gambler with a mere advise. You have to counsel the person first then do some spiritual work works like Fasting and Prayer. Because addiction is not a physical battle but a spiritual one so one has to deal with it with the spiritual way.

And even though gambling addicts think that no bet is wasted, it's still a waste if they can't stop because they will use more money. That will make them lose because they have lost their money because they can use it for other things. Yes, this depends on how much responsibility you have for yourself when you gamble and when you are out of control, that means you cannot maintain that responsibility properly. And if you realize that you have crossed the line, you should stop immediately before you run out of money.
At that time the only thing they think of is to play games whether they lose or win is not their business all what they want is to play games. So any amount of money they have from minor works out would be used to gamble untill they empty the pocket. If they eat before coming to the hall is their luck.
If we want to stop an addict then we have to take a serious approach to them. It won't be easy and for sure it will take a long process before they really realize what they are doing is wrong. I agree with you that maybe a spiritual or heart-to-heart approach might help to brainwash those who have been indoctrinated with addiction to some extent. But it's also not an easy task, because they will also refuse at first, it requires patience if you want the method to run smoothly, we will definitely put more effort into it.
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June 14, 2023, 09:21:40 AM
Those who are already addicted to gambling need help from the people around them to stop it before it worsens.
I don't think that is possible. You can't stop an addicted gambler with a mere advise. You have to counsel the person first then do some spiritual work works like Fasting and Prayer. Because addiction is not a physical battle but a spiritual one so one has to deal with it with the spiritual way.

And even though gambling addicts think that no bet is wasted, it's still a waste if they can't stop because they will use more money. That will make them lose because they have lost their money because they can use it for other things. Yes, this depends on how much responsibility you have for yourself when you gamble and when you are out of control, that means you cannot maintain that responsibility properly. And if you realize that you have crossed the line, you should stop immediately before you run out of money.
At that time the only thing they think of is to play games whether they lose or win is not their business all what they want is to play games. So any amount of money they have from minor works out would be used to gamble untill they empty the pocket. If they eat before coming to the hall is their luck.
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June 14, 2023, 08:21:22 AM
Those who bet too much and lose will come back to gamble again and despair because of their loss. That is an example many people have experienced, and it seems we have also experienced it. And only with restrictions can we do to avoid more defeats we will get, and to have those restrictions, we need good self-control. And before we experience more and more losses in gambling, we should control the use of money.
Gamblers who experience defeat never seem to experience despair and instead they can return to gambling more often to be able to satisfy their curiosity and emotions so they can win bets.
This is the domain that exists in gambling so no one can escape it.
The feeling of regret because of losing is definitely there, but to stop playing it seems not as long as you still have some money and are still emotionally controlled because of defeat.
Now, this limitation can make gamblers stop at least for some time after experiencing a loss so they don't lose more and more betting money.
Financial limits and controls are indeed important aspects that must be implemented by every gambler.
That is if they stick to their limits, but otherwise, they will continue gambling until the money runs out. We shouldn't experience that because we have learned much about gambling and controlling our emotions, so we don't try to chase losses or wins. And we must still have good self-control so as not to violate the boundaries we have made. After all, we also understand that gambling is part of entertainment, so we have to think of it that way. If we have good self-control, we can gamble anytime and stop whenever we want.

The only experience anyone can gain from gambling is to gamble responsibly. They should find a way to limit their losses, there is never going to be an experience that will make you a better gambler than getting disciplined.

Losses are permanent with online and offline gambling, that's why we need to gamble with what we can afford to lose, gambling is a game of luck and there is no amount of experience you gain over time that will start making you a winner, is a pure game of luck.

It's a shame that the only thing addicted gamblers are very good at is believing that their surprises are right there at the corner, that they are very close to getting a big bang prize, if you think this way you are already a gambling addict.
Those who are already addicted to gambling need help from the people around them to stop it before it worsens. And even though gambling addicts think that no bet is wasted, it's still a waste if they can't stop because they will use more money. That will make them lose because they have lost their money because they can use it for other things. Yes, this depends on how much responsibility you have for yourself when you gamble and when you are out of control, that means you cannot maintain that responsibility properly. And if you realize that you have crossed the line, you should stop immediately before you run out of money.
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June 14, 2023, 03:32:18 AM
The more we gamble the more we are learning from what we do and from others people's experience in addition to that, asise the fun we have while gambling, there are other emotional and psychological benefits we get from using an online casinos when gambling, there are other benefits we stand to gain whenever we gamble such as getting new ideas, informations, skills and technical experience in doing things a logical way.

Agree with this.

Over time, we learn different things base from our very own experiences or from others. We might also learn a thing or two from the information provided all over the Internet. If we happen to have failed bets, it's not totally useless especially if you did your best in having a strategy to play or if you poured your heart out for doing a research for sportsbetting. It will teach you a lesson even if it won't give you money for losing so. With that, you can equip yourself with more knowledge and confidence the next time you bet and play. But of course, it should still be done with caution and moderation.
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June 14, 2023, 03:15:18 AM
The more we gamble the more we are learning from what we do and from others people's experience in addition to that, asise the fun we have while gambling, there are other emotional and psychological benefits we get from using an online casinos when gambling, there are other benefits we stand to gain whenever we gamble such as getting new ideas, informations, skills and technical experience in doing things a logical way.
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June 14, 2023, 03:06:07 AM
Those who bet too much and lose will come back to gamble again and despair because of their loss. That is an example many people have experienced, and it seems we have also experienced it. And only with restrictions can we do to avoid more defeats we will get, and to have those restrictions, we need good self-control. And before we experience more and more losses in gambling, we should control the use of money.
Gamblers who experience defeat never seem to experience despair and instead they can return to gambling more often to be able to satisfy their curiosity and emotions so they can win bets.
This is the domain that exists in gambling so no one can escape it.
The feeling of regret because of losing is definitely there, but to stop playing it seems not as long as you still have some money and are still emotionally controlled because of defeat.
Now, this limitation can make gamblers stop at least for some time after experiencing a loss so they don't lose more and more betting money.
Financial limits and controls are indeed important aspects that must be implemented by every gambler.

Following your statement, if you have good control with your finances and with your emotion doing some gambling for entertainment or to kill some time is doable but most of the time, when a person don't have any control, it can lead them to suffer for more. Gambling is a high-risk activities I mean, maybe for some time you can control or even you can just use those free games, but when you already feel the enjoyment that's where the risk will start.

They can be free games or not, but the casinos also have the option of playing with play money or playing in a demo version, which is the same, this in turn is to improve the ability to use the platform and know how to react taking advantage of the tools that have.

Casinos that have options like exchanges, mostly confuse it to play and win play money, but you have to learn how to use the casino well without having bad experiences, depending on the experience of each player, they can ignore those demos and they play directly with real money, they take the risk and play like that.


I always try a game that is a new release directly from the provider website and try the demo for as long as I see fit before playing with real money in the casino.I usually conduct 2 hours sessions on each slot on the provider before I decide to go and play it with real money,2 hours is enough time to see if it is a slot that fits my style or not.

Of course that no bet is a waste is the slogan of a lot of reputable casinos as for every bet you make they reward you with daily,weekly and monthly bonuses,a sort of cash back in the longer term in my way of thinking.It is never advisable to go and play with real money a new slot without testing the waters first.
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