[No KYC] Prepaid Cards and Virtual Phone Numbers are available on Stealths - page 5.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 22, 2024, 01:23:06 PM

Quote from: StealthsNet on April 22, 2024, 11:09:32 AM

You are right, anyone who knows card details can make a purchase (just like no-3D cards). This is obviously a downside however there is not any other prepaid card issuer with 3D support and no-KYC requirement. As far as I know, it's possible to block card details on VISA International Prepaid Card.

Are you aware of any cases where the auto-3D feature stopped working, preventing a genuine user from using the card until your support checked what's wrong?
I am looking at your international VISA prepaid card. Is this country list up-to-date?
The product description says there is no currency conversion fee. Can you share the source you use to convert between USD and other national currencies?

To clarify, we are not the card issuer. We are reselling prepaid cards which are issued by U.S. banks via licensed card issuers. Card issuer uses VISA's exchange rates, I believe you can find it on VISA's website.
We haven't had any issue with 3D security so far, it's sold as "international" so this is why it's enabled. Country list is up-to-date.

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Quote from: StealthsNet on April 22, 2024, 11:09:32 AM

You are right, anyone who knows card details can make a purchase (just like no-3D cards). This is obviously a downside however there is not any other prepaid card issuer with 3D support and no-KYC requirement. As far as I know, it's possible to block card details on VISA International Prepaid Card.

Are you aware of any cases where the auto-3D feature stopped working, preventing a genuine user from using the card until your support checked what's wrong?
I am looking at your international VISA prepaid card. Is this country list up-to-date?
The product description says there is no currency conversion fee. Can you share the source you use to convert between USD and other national currencies?

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 22, 2024, 10:30:13 AM

Quote from: StealthsNet on April 18, 2024, 01:38:56 AM

This card has auto-3D feature, which doesn't require an action from you such as entering auth code. All 3D requests are automatically approved by card issuer.

In that case, it's a slight downgrade security-wise. The standard security model requires the owner of the card to confirm each transaction using a code they receive on their registered phone number. It's 2FA. If you get rid of that, there is no longer a second authentication, and anyone with my card details (which I must protect anyways) would be able to make transactions. Am I correct? Can I at least block the card and freeze its spending capabilities anytime I don't want to use it?

You are right, anyone who knows card details can make a purchase (just like no-3D cards). This is obviously a downside however there is not any other prepaid card issuer with 3D support and no-KYC requirement. As far as I know, it's possible to block card details on VISA International Prepaid Card.

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Quote from: StealthsNet on April 18, 2024, 01:38:56 AM

This card has auto-3D feature, which doesn't require an action from you such as entering auth code. All 3D requests are automatically approved by card issuer.

In that case, it's a slight downgrade security-wise. The standard security model requires the owner of the card to confirm each transaction using a code they receive on their registered phone number. It's 2FA. If you get rid of that, there is no longer a second authentication, and anyone with my card details (which I must protect anyways) would be able to make transactions. Am I correct? Can I at least block the card and freeze its spending capabilities anytime I don't want to use it?

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Quote from: LeGaulois on April 17, 2024, 07:29:26 PM

If someone knows the answer to this:

The website says the card supports 3D secure.

How it's possible if the card issuer does't know my phone number and there is no app. I can't follow the verification protocol

TYVM

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Quote from: StealthsNet on April 17, 2024, 02:54:02 PM

PDS Mastercard service was closed for new orders for a few days, we fixed the problem and launched it again.

The VISA International Prepaid Card (USD) is also issued by PDS? Sad

This card has auto-3D feature, which doesn't require an action from you such as entering auth code. All 3D requests are automatically approved by card issuer.

Only PDS Mastercard is issued by Prepaid Digital Solutions.

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If someone knows the answer to this:

The website says the card supports 3D secure.

How it's possible if the card issuer does't know my phone number and there is no app. I can't follow the verification protocol

TYVM

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Quote from: StealthsNet on April 17, 2024, 02:54:02 PM

PDS Mastercard service was closed for new orders for a few days, we fixed the problem and launched it again.

The VISA International Prepaid Card (USD) is also issued by PDS? Sad

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Quote from: dkbit98 on April 17, 2024, 02:12:15 PM

Quote from: StealthsNet on April 16, 2024, 02:23:20 PM

- VISA US Gift Cards are back with a maximum limit of $1,000. https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto

I am reading the details and terms about this card and it is saying that it only works in the United States.
Does that mean that it can't be used with merchants and websites that are located in Europe and other regions outside US?

Quote from: StealthsNet on April 16, 2024, 02:23:20 PM

- PDS Mastercard service has been restroyed. https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto

What does restroyed mean exactly?

Yes, VISA Gift Card (US) product work only in the United States merchants. For other countries, you may consider using VISA International Prepaid Card.

PDS Mastercard service was closed for new orders for a few days, we fixed the problem and launched it again.

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Quote from: StealthsNet on April 16, 2024, 02:23:20 PM

- VISA US Gift Cards are back with a maximum limit of $1,000. https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto

I am reading the details and terms about this card and it is saying that it only works in the United States.
Does that mean that it can't be used with merchants and websites that are located in Europe and other regions outside US?

Quote from: StealthsNet on April 16, 2024, 02:23:20 PM

- PDS Mastercard service has been restroyed. https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto

What does restroyed mean exactly?

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Quote from: Lucius on April 17, 2024, 10:56:51 AM

Quote from: StealthsNet on April 16, 2024, 02:23:20 PM

Service Updates:
- VISA International Prepaid Card currency is changed from EUR to USD and maximum limit has been lifted to $2,000. Cards are still being provided by same company. https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-usd
~snip~

I made a suggestion, but I didn't think that you would remove EUR completely - because all that had to be done was to enable the option that whoever buys the card can choose between $ or EUR - of course, all to avoid the confusion mentioned in previous posts. Now we have the "problem" that the card balance is in $, and this makes it difficult to monitor the balance on the card for those who pay in EUR.

If I have $100 left on my card and I want to pay something in that price range, I must first calculate how much it is in EUR because it may happen that the transaction is rejected. In addition, the conversion rate from USD to EUR is constantly changing, and the question is, what is the official exchange rate that we should use?

The base currency of VISA international cards was always "USD". When you bought €100 card, card balance was being converted to USD up on the activation (this is explained on product page). Now we removed that to avoid currency exchange confusions. So actually EUR cards were not solving the problem you mentioned.

Card provider uses VISA's real time exchange rate, they don't charge additional fee for foreign currency payments. But you can calculate -1% less to make sure transaction doesn't get declined.

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Quote from: StealthsNet on April 16, 2024, 02:23:20 PM

Service Updates:
- VISA International Prepaid Card currency is changed from EUR to USD and maximum limit has been lifted to $2,000. Cards are still being provided by same company. https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-usd
~snip~

I made a suggestion, but I didn't think that you would remove EUR completely - because all that had to be done was to enable the option that whoever buys the card can choose between $ or EUR - of course, all to avoid the confusion mentioned in previous posts. Now we have the "problem" that the card balance is in $, and this makes it difficult to monitor the balance on the card for those who pay in EUR.

If I have $100 left on my card and I want to pay something in that price range, I must first calculate how much it is in EUR because it may happen that the transaction is rejected. In addition, the conversion rate from USD to EUR is constantly changing, and the question is, what is the official exchange rate that we should use?

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Service Updates:
- VISA International Prepaid Card currency is changed from EUR to USD and maximum limit has been lifted to $2,000. Cards are still being provided by same company. https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-usd
- VISA US Gift Cards are back with a maximum limit of $1,000. https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto
- PDS Mastercard service has been restroyed. https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto

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Quote from: dkbit98 on April 11, 2024, 02:16:06 PM

Quote from: StealthsNet on April 10, 2024, 02:14:25 PM

New Product: PDS Mastercard Prepaid

There is one part that doesn't sound good and I don't like it, there is a chance of provider asking for KYC verification, so it's not recommended for anyone who want's to avoid that:

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If you encounter a problem with card, you need to contact PDS support and they might require KYC.

What happened to all other cards that were previously available on your website?
Now I can only see VISA prepaid card with 3ds, and this new PDS Mastercard (not counting gif cards).

Hi, we provide card activation code for PDS. But similar to MyPrepaidCenter, it must be activated on provider's website. By the way we haven't faced such KYC issue so far, however we are obligated to provide all informations. Always recommended to test with small amount at first.

We used to have 2 other options; MyPrepaidCenter Mastercard and VISA US gift card. Issuer bank changed their program rules, PDS is a good replacement for MyPrepaidCenter however we are aware of that VISA US gift card is needed. Hopefully it will be added back to our service in following days.

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Quote from: StealthsNet on April 10, 2024, 02:14:25 PM

New Product: PDS Mastercard Prepaid

There is one part that doesn't sound good and I don't like it, there is a chance of provider asking for KYC verification, so it's not recommended for anyone who want's to avoid that:

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If you encounter a problem with card, you need to contact PDS support and they might require KYC.

What happened to all other cards that were previously available on your website?
Now I can only see VISA prepaid card with 3ds, and this new PDS Mastercard (not counting gif cards).

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New Product: PDS Mastercard Prepaid

We are happy to announce that a new prepaid card provider has been integrated to our service.

• Card provider: Prepaid Digital Solutions
• Maximum balance limit: $1,000
• Apple Pay & Google Pay supported

https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto

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Quote from: StealthsNet on March 29, 2024, 12:08:56 PM

Hello.
We are also aware of that it's a little bit confusing. We are currently working on USD international cards to overcome currency confusion, but meanwhile a UX change could be helpful.
Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions!

You're welcome

I remembered that one member of the forum (if I'm not mistaken @stompix) in one of the topics discussing crypto cards was also a bit confused about fees - but I'm sure you'll find a solution for that too. Keep up the good work Wink

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Quote from: Lucius on March 29, 2024, 11:32:17 AM

Quote from: StealthsNet on March 12, 2024, 01:14:21 PM

Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!
We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!
Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.

It's great that you raised the max limit of the card and that there are no more restrictions in terms of pre-determined amounts. If possible, I would suggest one change on the page regarding "Net amount you want to receive" which is expressed in EUR and "Total amount to pay" which is expressed in $ - because for some it can be a bit confusing when it comes to fees.

When, for example, someone wants to get EUR 1500 on the card, they have to pay $1683, so for someone who doesn't see the difference in currency, it can seem like a really big fee. The fee is actually (depending on the exchange rate) around 55-60 EUR.

Hello.

We are also aware of that it's a little bit confusing. We are currently working on USD international cards to overcome currency confusion, but meanwhile a UX change could be helpful.

Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions!

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Quote from: StealthsNet on March 12, 2024, 01:14:21 PM

Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!
👉🏻 We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!
👉🏻 Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.

It's great that you raised the max limit of the card and that there are no more restrictions in terms of pre-determined amounts. If possible, I would suggest one change on the page regarding "Net amount you want to receive" which is expressed in EUR and "Total amount to pay" which is expressed in $ - because for some it can be a bit confusing when it comes to fees.

When, for example, someone wants to get EUR 1500 on the card, they have to pay $1683, so for someone who doesn't see the difference in currency, it can seem like a really big fee. The fee is actually (depending on the exchange rate) around 55-60 EUR.

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Quote from: RocketSingh on March 22, 2024, 07:42:40 PM

Quote from: StealthsNet on March 12, 2024, 01:14:21 PM

Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!

👉🏻 We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!

👉🏻 Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.

https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-international

Can I use this to sign up for an AWS Free Tier account? If yes, what would be the Cardholder's name?

For this product, you set the cardholder name on card activation, so it can be anything.
Prepaid cards may not work for free trials.

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Quote from: StealthsNet on March 12, 2024, 01:14:21 PM

Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!

👉🏻 We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!

👉🏻 Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.

https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-international

Can I use this to sign up for an AWS Free Tier account? If yes, what would be the Cardholder's name?

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Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!

👉🏻 We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!

👉🏻 Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.

https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-international

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