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Topic: NobleCoin[NOBL] - 8% PoS | 1Yr+ | MARKETPLACE | PAY | GIFT | CHARITIES/MERCHANTS - page 273. (Read 1053172 times)

legendary
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up!

We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract.

DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe,  what if they dump the coins?

This is the same with any good coin with potential. Really it should be a good sign that people are prepared to put large amounts into NOBL. Whales who hold the largest amounts are not stupid and are not just going to dump it all just cause its gone down a bit!!!  In it for the Long term!!!!!!!!
full member
Activity: 192
Merit: 100
PHCoin is asking kraken that did the audit report here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-kraken-passes-cryptographically-verifiable-proof-of-reserves-audit-528432
Because Audits are a good thing, especially with any fund/premine/ipo... I think this is highly needed with escrow and other transparencies in place.

For better or for worse we wouldn't keep anything closed source, it goes against the whole spirit of crypto (besides the fact open-source got us here in the first place) but even more importantly from a realist perspective any closed-source service or wallet dealing with money of any amount simply would not be trusted.

One way around that, sort of, which was discussed in the Drk coin thread early on, is to have a trusted 3rd party audit the code. Finding a trusted 3rd party, and if that would be good enough, is a question though.

For systems that are truly unique, a coin does sort of need to be closed source, at least to start with, or P&D clones will just kill whatever is unique about the coin. And probably do a poor job of implementing the 'unique system' to begin with.

But I agree about the forking thing. You can't hardfork Noble repeatedly, trying to catch the latest fad. The partner coin idea could potentially work. One problem is the fact that people may not really care about any features really. They say they do, but in reality all they could be doing is jumping from one pump and dump to the next, using new features as a context for the pump. It's the same reason why pumps quite often occur on the flimsiest of coin news -- listed in coin market cap, listed on new exchange, listed in some obscure article that nobody will read anyway, nation coin does airdrop, etc. It's just a reason for a pump, so people may not care so much about whatever feature is in fad right now ... it's just a way to make money. Exceptions would be things that are truly unique and serve a purpose, perhaps anonymity, true anonymity, coins like Ethereum or MadeSafe (in theory), that sort of thing.

One thing that could help Noble, and for all I know has been implemented and I missed it, is to incorporate the marketplace into the wallet, as well as have it set up for both android and ios. If you have discounts or marketplace news, it can then appear as a popup in the wallet itself. It's one way to get the marketplace more attention and be a bit more unique than other coins.
sr. member
Activity: 326
Merit: 250
A have to say THANK YOU once again, because someone just sent enormous donation, almost doubling our balance,
so I had to publish an update on simplynoble.net Smiley



I think it's time to reveal the collected amount to the originators, because it is unlikely that the price go much lower from here.
I will let them know on FB about the update!
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007
marketplace in wallet and news in wallet: I like.

if its not possible with current people, please outsource it!

this will make the wallet a lot more usefull and user friendly. a mobile version of this would be even more epic!
hero member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 509
For better or for worse we wouldn't keep anything closed source, it goes against the whole spirit of crypto (besides the fact open-source got us here in the first place) but even more importantly from a realist perspective any closed-source service or wallet dealing with money of any amount simply would not be trusted.

One way around that, sort of, which was discussed in the Drk coin thread early on, is to have a trusted 3rd party audit the code. Finding a trusted 3rd party, and if that would be good enough, is a question though.

For systems that are truly unique, a coin does sort of need to be closed source, at least to start with, or P&D clones will just kill whatever is unique about the coin. And probably do a poor job of implementing the 'unique system' to begin with.

But I agree about the forking thing. You can't hardfork Noble repeatedly, trying to catch the latest fad. The partner coin idea could potentially work. One problem is the fact that people may not really care about any features really. They say they do, but in reality all they could be doing is jumping from one pump and dump to the next, using new features as a context for the pump. It's the same reason why pumps quite often occur on the flimsiest of coin news -- listed in coin market cap, listed on new exchange, listed in some obscure article that nobody will read anyway, nation coin does airdrop, etc. It's just a reason for a pump, so people may not care so much about whatever feature is in fad right now ... it's just a way to make money. Exceptions would be things that are truly unique and serve a purpose, perhaps anonymity, true anonymity, coins like Ethereum or MadeSafe (in theory), that sort of thing.

One thing that could help Noble, and for all I know has been implemented and I missed it, is to incorporate the marketplace into the wallet, as well as have it set up for both android and ios. If you have discounts or marketplace news, it can then appear as a popup in the wallet itself. It's one way to get the marketplace more attention and be a bit more unique than other coins.
hero member
Activity: 691
Merit: 500
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up!

We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract.

DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe,  what if they dump the coins?

I see a problem in it, too. There are some guys holding huge amounts. and thats not good imo.

I was told there is a ledger about the premine, this kind of information should be in a place easy to identify, ANN thread at least. I am not saying something bad about NOBL, but most likely what I can see is what other people can find too. If you tell me the price is very low right now, and can go 300 sat some day, surely I will invest some BTC into it, but when I know there is a richest list and premine holders, just fee safe to invest more.

Dev, why don't you giveaway a portion of coin into the community, and spread the goodness of NOBL too. NOBL also need some stuffs, one example is a nice official block explorer; notice BTC benefits a lot from blockchain.info. NOBL should do that too.

There have been lots of giveaways, I personally have had around 10s of thousands of Noble.

I trust Rofo 100% not to sell the premine. If you realise the amount off effort that he has put into this coin, there is no way that he would cash out yet. There are so many great things to come.

I hope the price is still low tomorrow, I get paid then Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 326
Merit: 250
I was told there is a ledger about the premine, this kind of information should be in a place easy to identify, ANN thread at least. I am not saying something bad about NOBL, but most likely what I can see is what other people can find too. If you tell me the price is very low right now, and can go 300 sat some day, surely I will invest some BTC into it, but when I know there is a richest list and premine holders, just fee safe to invest more.

Dev, why don't you giveaway a portion of coin into the community, and spread the goodness of NOBL too. NOBL also need some stuffs, one example is a nice official block explorer; notice BTC benefits a lot from blockchain.info. NOBL should do that too.

You can find this info in the first post, on the first screen:

NobleCoin Marketplace | NOBLE Movement | Interview With the Devs | NobleCoin & The Water Project
         Non-Anonymous Founders | Development Roadmap | Public Ledger & Expenses

(https://www.noblemovement.com/public-ledger/)
hero member
Activity: 735
Merit: 501
They could always take note from SilkCoin and implement a new wallet.  When NobleCoin was first releasing I suggested the possibility
of using a new GUI like implemented by MegaCoin I believe.
newbie
Activity: 48
Merit: 0
Basically semi-random, as transparent and possible and controlled has to be best, most people here are out to abuse the system, not support it.

yes We need to be more transparent.
Want to see our feelings
 Smiley
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up!

We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract.

DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe,  what if they dump the coins?

A great amount are also probably still unlisted exchange adresses. Yes, there are a few big holders, but they already stated that they are in this for the long run. (some bought at 200+ and don't want to take a 10x loss and beleive in noblecoin)

Those People who bought NOBL and are at the top are just fine; had "bad" impression on NOBL reverses, no body can make people to believe they won't dump.
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up!

We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract.

DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe,  what if they dump the coins?

I see a problem in it, too. There are some guys holding huge amounts. and thats not good imo.

I was told there is a ledger about the premine, this kind of information should be in a place easy to identify, ANN thread at least. I am not saying something bad about NOBL, but most likely what I can see is what other people can find too. If you tell me the price is very low right now, and can go 300 sat some day, surely I will invest some BTC into it, but when I know there is a richest list and premine holders, just fee safe to invest more.

Dev, why don't you giveaway a portion of coin into the community, and spread the goodness of NOBL too. NOBL also need some stuffs, one example is a nice official block explorer; notice BTC benefits a lot from blockchain.info. NOBL should do that too.
hero member
Activity: 735
Merit: 501
Transferring a sum of BTC to Poloniex; time to buy again.   Grin
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up!

We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract.

DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe,  what if they dump the coins?

A great amount are also probably still unlisted exchange adresses. Yes, there are a few big holders, but they already stated that they are in this for the long run. (some bought at 200+ and don't want to take a 10x loss and beleive in noblecoin)
newbie
Activity: 48
Merit: 0
Must say that I appreciate all the thought that is going into noblecoin!

Agree with you
Wish us luck
The price can be a little higher
 Wink
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up!

We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract.

DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe,  what if they dump the coins?

I see a problem in it, too. There are some guys holding huge amounts. and thats not good imo.
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up!

We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract.

DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe,  what if they dump the coins?
sr. member
Activity: 326
Merit: 250
In the meantime...
I'm really proud to announce that the Noble Community managed to collect 318000 NOBL for the noble cause of funding the Safe, Open, Ecological Playground for Children on Stacja Wolimierz, Poland!

http://simplynoble.net is my site with infos about Noble team taking part of that crowdfunding. (I hope that the site itself will also have other purposes in near future Wink
You can leave a comment there! (I think so)

And, you can still donate! (as there is still 29 days left of the fundraising):

9X1Jwnsn3X5YY4TYtpW2dPUHTYAHU7XzyX
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/address.dws?9X1Jwnsn3X5YY4TYtpW2dPUHTYAHU7XzyX.htm

At the current NOBL/BTC price (21 satoshi) it would be a pity to convert them now, but still they are worth more than 110 PLN. ($35)
I think we can achieve 200 PLN with very little effort (200 PLN would be a significant 1% of the whole fundsraising, which has the final goal set at 20k PLN).

More infos about the town, the theatre, the foundation, and the current crowdfunding project can be found under these links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolimierz
["The cultural life in the area has been promoted lately by the Stacja Wolimierz gallery and theatre, located in a deserted train station of Wolimierz. There are several international festivals and workshops that are held there each year."]
http://polakpotrafi.pl/projekt/plac
[The main crowdfunding project, use Google Translate if not understandable at all ;]
http://stacja.wolimierz.info.pl/info
http://stacja.wolimierz.info.pl/interplanetary-kingdom-of-art
http://www.klinikalalek.art.pl/index.php?id=english.htm

Again, thank you all!
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1000
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up!

We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract.
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
Not sure what DEV do to this coin, market place, donation and significant amount of premine?

Dev is very active, check twitter.

Every noble in the premine is accounted for, no shady stuff there.

Just don't understand, NOBL has so many merchants, news/article, marketplace supporting this coin, and active DEV/community, everyone here is saying NOBL is good, promising something like, why the cap is only < 300 BTC, daily volume < 30 BTC. So you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up!

EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up!
hero member
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Merit: 500
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Must say that I appreciate all the thought that is going into noblecoin!
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I enter here at least once a day just to read the discussions.



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One must simply ignore the P&D hype. I no longer bother reading any new coins.
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