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Topic: NobleCoin[NOBL] - 8% PoS | 1Yr+ | MARKETPLACE | PAY | GIFT | CHARITIES/MERCHANTS - page 84. (Read 1053097 times)

sr. member
Activity: 440
Merit: 251
-- Bounties --

Someone approached me the other day asking what's my take on bounties. AFAIR he was offering help with setting them up etc but he never started working on this AFAIK.
So let me initiate this idea here.

I think it could be interesting for people to propose things that could be done and also proposing bounties. Other people can support such ideas by adding support/money to particular bounties. This could be managed by someone from this community or could be done just by making list of people and their promises somewhere.

Bounties can be for various things e.g. making changes to wallet, graphic design, marketing, documentation etc.The way I see it they could be used to measure what things are most important to work on. This can also help with brain storming new ideas.


Bounty #1

Create documentation with images showing how to create several receiving addresses and how to split big transaction into several smaller ones within single transaction. This is the piece that HR has almost finished so I guess he will be the taker.

Reward: 50 000 NOBLE

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I dont know if your talking about me, but I think you are. I would be happy to supply some coins for the bounties program. I am unfortunately with out the skill set to do much more. I liked the idea of what Ldoge was doing before the Shiz hit the fan over there. I was going to see if I could get the guy that set all that up to come over to work with us for some coin. That day after I talked to you I logged on to Ldoge irc and all hell was breaking loose. I couldnt find the guy. Eagle set up a address and I will give a large donation to get us started.  Maybe you can set a donation from that to set up the bounites page as well. Publish the Addy on here and we can post when we donate.


I am not sure if gathering all bounties in centralized manner is a good idea. It is probably better if we talk about specific tasks first and people vote for them. I have proposed two bouties. Do you like any of them?

Do you have any specific ideas that could be done? Please share.
hero member
Activity: 803
Merit: 501
-- Bounties --

Someone approached me the other day asking what's my take on bounties. AFAIR he was offering help with setting them up etc but he never started working on this AFAIK.
So let me initiate this idea here.

I think it could be interesting for people to propose things that could be done and also proposing bounties. Other people can support such ideas by adding support/money to particular bounties. This could be managed by someone from this community or could be done just by making list of people and their promises somewhere.

Bounties can be for various things e.g. making changes to wallet, graphic design, marketing, documentation etc.The way I see it they could be used to measure what things are most important to work on. This can also help with brain storming new ideas.


Bounty #1

Create documentation with images showing how to create several receiving addresses and how to split big transaction into several smaller ones within single transaction. This is the piece that HR has almost finished so I guess he will be the taker.

Reward: 50 000 NOBLE

---
I dont know if your talking about me, but I think you are. I would be happy to supply some coins for the bounties program. I am unfortunately with out the skill set to do much more. I liked the idea of what Ldoge was doing before the Shiz hit the fan over there. I was going to see if I could get the guy that set all that up to come over to work with us for some coin. That day after I talked to you I logged on to Ldoge irc and all hell was breaking loose. I couldnt find the guy. Eagle set up a address and I will give a large donation to get us started.  Maybe you can set a donation from that to set up the bounites page as well. Publish the Addy on here and we can post when we donate.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
I am really liking how the blocks don't split anymore! that is the worst thing with POS crypto


Good job!
sr. member
Activity: 440
Merit: 251
any translation bounties?

Please suggest something more specific e.g. 'I can translate those documents (e.g. docs or something) into such language. Is anyone interested and would like to provide bounty for it'? Or even 'I can translate [..] if community gathers X amount of Noblecoin'.

This can be two way street - on one side people looking for things to be done, on another people offering their skills and asking if there is demand.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
-- Bounties --

Someone approached me the other day asking what's my take on bounties. AFAIR he was offering help with setting them up etc but he never started working on this AFAIK.
So let me initiate this idea here.

I think it could be interesting for people to propose things that could be done and also proposing bounties. Other people can support such ideas by adding support/money to particular bounties. This could be managed by someone from this community or could be done just by making list of people and their promises somewhere.

Bounties can be for various things e.g. making changes to wallet, graphic design, marketing, documentation etc.The way I see it they could be used to measure what things are most important to work on. This can also help with brain storming new ideas.


Bounty #1

Create documentation with images showing how to create several receiving addresses and how to split big transaction into several smaller ones within single transaction. This is the piece that HR has almost finished so I guess he will be the taker.

Reward: 50 000 NOBLE

---

Bounty #2

Change wallet layout to look nicer using images which were in PoW wallet. I am considering working on this. Is anyone interested in such item? Anyone would like to support it?

Reward: ?



Please provide feedback if we need bounties. Also feel free to suggest new items which are in demand.

any translation bounties?
sr. member
Activity: 440
Merit: 251
-- Bounties --

Someone approached me the other day asking what's my take on bounties. AFAIR he was offering help with setting them up etc but he never started working on this AFAIK.
So let me initiate this idea here.

I think it could be interesting for people to propose things that could be done and also proposing bounties. Other people can support such ideas by adding support/money to particular bounties. This could be managed by someone from this community or could be done just by making list of people and their promises somewhere.

Bounties can be for various things e.g. making changes to wallet, graphic design, marketing, documentation etc.The way I see it they could be used to measure what things are most important to work on. This can also help with brain storming new ideas.


Bounty #1

Create documentation with images showing how to create several receiving addresses and how to split big transaction into several smaller ones within single transaction. This is the piece that HR has almost finished so I guess he will be the taker.

Reward: 50 000 NOBLE

---

Bounty #2

Change wallet layout to look nicer using images which were in PoW wallet. I am considering working on this. Is anyone interested in such item? Anyone would like to support it?

Reward: ?



Please provide feedback if we need bounties. Also feel free to suggest new items which are in demand.
sr. member
Activity: 440
Merit: 251
It's easy to do, and you start seeing tons more NOBL coming into your wallets if you do it.

(First you need to create addresses to send to - it's real easy, "Receive coins" > "New address", but I'll do a real time HowTo tomorrow morning on that.)

[..]

Please do such a HowTo using noblecoin's wallet and I will put it on our wiki.


I had it up the next day - updated the original post.

It's easy to do, and you start seeing tons more NOBL coming into your wallets if you do it.

(First you need to create addresses to send to - it's real easy, "Receive coins" > "New address", but I'll do a real time HowTo tomorrow morning on that. EDIT: THAT'S DONE NOW: How Can I Create New Addresses in the Same Wallet?)

http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=134
http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=135
http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137

If you don't see any of that, you need to enable coin control:

http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=133

Docs above use DigiByte's client. It would be preferable to have images which use Noblecoin's client.

That particular one is NOBL.  How Can I Create New Addresses in the Same Wallet?


Great! I was going to setup bounty for this and it looks you are going to be the winner. Just the last piece is missing. Could you create one or two images showing how to send money to several addresses in single transaction using Noblecoin's wallet?
sr. member
Activity: 440
Merit: 251
---- More on staking ----

1. Analysis (this can be skipped if you do not have much time. Simply go and read 2. Recommendation)

I decided to go deeper into how we are doing in terms of staking. Today I was looking at recent blocks trying to find information what is the usual amount of coins which mints reward to provide some suggestions what could be optimal coins amount to stake. In theory amounts close to 2 000 000 coins are best since they can achieve highest weights. However 2 000 000 may be best in ideal world where all coin holders stake. In practice just portion of coins are being staked on regular basis while the rest may be deposited on an exchange, being staked every several months or simply forgotten.

Number of blocks inspected: 1000

Minimal amount of coins which managed to mint new coins: 469
Maximum amount: 9 264 403
Average amount: 477 159
Median amount: 47 004
Number of people running latest version of wallet which does not split transactions into two: 162 (16.2%).

If we look at the numbers we can see it is pretty easy to mint new coins since this is possible even with transactions lower than 10 000 coins. Important number is median which is about 50 000 coins. We should try to move this number higher. This can be achieved by organizing transactions into sizes in range between 100 000 - 250 000. Also running newest version of client will help since you can group your coins into recommended size range and there will be no need to maintain it on regular basis.


2. Recommendation

1. Group your coins into transactions between 100 000 - 250 000 coins.
2. Use newest wallet version which does not require regular maintenance: http://noble.ilikebtc.com/NobleCoin-Qt-v.2.0.2.zip
3. Try to stake on regular basis e.g. at least several hours per week.



Are there any commands or startup switches that automatically re-size blocks, or do you have to do it manually? I'm using the latest ver 2.0.0


Sucks for people with lots of coins that is small 250k wallets?

Well this is "ideal" scenario. The point is if someone stakes 10 mil coins in one transaction it is recommended to split them into anything below that: 2 mil, 1 mil, 0,5 mil etc.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
What exactly is the meaning of:

"Use newest wallet version which does not require regular maintenance"?

Does it mean that this new version will auto manage the block size? Or will it stake without dividing the blocks?

Stake without dividing the blocks
legendary
Activity: 1564
Merit: 1027
What exactly is the meaning of:

"Use newest wallet version which does not require regular maintenance"?

Does it mean that this new version will auto manage the block size? Or will it stake without dividing the blocks?
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
---- More on staking ----

1. Analysis (this can be skipped if you do not have much time. Simply go and read 2. Recommendation)

I decided to go deeper into how we are doing in terms of staking. Today I was looking at recent blocks trying to find information what is the usual amount of coins which mints reward to provide some suggestions what could be optimal coins amount to stake. In theory amounts close to 2 000 000 coins are best since they can achieve highest weights. However 2 000 000 may be best in ideal world where all coin holders stake. In practice just portion of coins are being staked on regular basis while the rest may be deposited on an exchange, being staked every several months or simply forgotten.

Number of blocks inspected: 1000

Minimal amount of coins which managed to mint new coins: 469
Maximum amount: 9 264 403
Average amount: 477 159
Median amount: 47 004
Number of people running latest version of wallet which does not split transactions into two: 162 (16.2%).

If we look at the numbers we can see it is pretty easy to mint new coins since this is possible even with transactions lower than 10 000 coins. Important number is median which is about 50 000 coins. We should try to move this number higher. This can be achieved by organizing transactions into sizes in range between 100 000 - 250 000. Also running newest version of client will help since you can group your coins into recommended size range and there will be no need to maintain it on regular basis.


2. Recommendation

1. Group your coins into transactions between 100 000 - 250 000 coins.
2. Use newest wallet version which does not require regular maintenance: http://noble.ilikebtc.com/NobleCoin-Qt-v.2.0.2.zip
3. Try to stake on regular basis e.g. at least several hours per week.



Are there any commands or startup switches that automatically re-size blocks, or do you have to do it manually? I'm using the latest ver 2.0.0


Sucks for people with lots of coins that is small 250k wallets?
HR
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1011
Transparency & Integrity
It's easy to do, and you start seeing tons more NOBL coming into your wallets if you do it.

(First you need to create addresses to send to - it's real easy, "Receive coins" > "New address", but I'll do a real time HowTo tomorrow morning on that.)

[..]

Please do such a HowTo using noblecoin's wallet and I will put it on our wiki.


I had it up the next day - updated the original post.

It's easy to do, and you start seeing tons more NOBL coming into your wallets if you do it.

(First you need to create addresses to send to - it's real easy, "Receive coins" > "New address", but I'll do a real time HowTo tomorrow morning on that. EDIT: THAT'S DONE NOW: How Can I Create New Addresses in the Same Wallet?)

http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=134
http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=135
http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137

If you don't see any of that, you need to enable coin control:

http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=133

Docs above use DigiByte's client. It would be preferable to have images which use Noblecoin's client.

That particular one is NOBL.  How Can I Create New Addresses in the Same Wallet?
sr. member
Activity: 440
Merit: 251
It's easy to do, and you start seeing tons more NOBL coming into your wallets if you do it.

(First you need to create addresses to send to - it's real easy, "Receive coins" > "New address", but I'll do a real time HowTo tomorrow morning on that.)

[..]

Please do such a HowTo using noblecoin's wallet and I will put it on our wiki.


I had it up the next day - updated the original post.

It's easy to do, and you start seeing tons more NOBL coming into your wallets if you do it.

(First you need to create addresses to send to - it's real easy, "Receive coins" > "New address", but I'll do a real time HowTo tomorrow morning on that. EDIT: THAT'S DONE NOW: How Can I Create New Addresses in the Same Wallet?)

http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=134
http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=135
http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137

If you don't see any of that, you need to enable coin control:

http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=133

Docs above use DigiByte's client. It would be preferable to have images which use Noblecoin's client.
HR
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1011
Transparency & Integrity
It's easy to do, and you start seeing tons more NOBL coming into your wallets if you do it.

(First you need to create addresses to send to - it's real easy, "Receive coins" > "New address", but I'll do a real time HowTo tomorrow morning on that.)

[..]

Please do such a HowTo using noblecoin's wallet and I will put it on our wiki.


I had it up the next day - updated the original post.

It's easy to do, and you start seeing tons more NOBL coming into your wallets if you do it.

(First you need to create addresses to send to - it's real easy, "Receive coins" > "New address", but I'll do a real time HowTo tomorrow morning on that. EDIT: THAT'S DONE NOW: How Can I Create New Addresses in the Same Wallet?)

http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=134
http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=135
http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137

If you don't see any of that, you need to enable coin control:

http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=133
sr. member
Activity: 440
Merit: 251
It's easy to do, and you start seeing tons more NOBL coming into your wallets if you do it.

(First you need to create addresses to send to - it's real easy, "Receive coins" > "New address", but I'll do a real time HowTo tomorrow morning on that.)

[..]

Please do such a HowTo using noblecoin's wallet and I will put it on our wiki.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
It's easy to do, and you start seeing tons more NOBL coming into your wallets if you do it.

(First you need to create addresses to send to - it's real easy, "Receive coins" > "New address", but I'll do a real time HowTo tomorrow morning on that.)

http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=134
http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=135
http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137

If you don't see any of that, you need to enable coin control:

http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=133

Are there any commands or startup switches that automatically re-size blocks, or do you have to do it manually? I'm using the latest ver 2.0.0

Manual as of yet.

can you post a small guide on how to do it?
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250

Are there any commands or startup switches that automatically re-size blocks, or do you have to do it manually? I'm using the latest ver 2.0.0

Manual as of yet.

can you post a small guide on how to do it?
sr. member
Activity: 440
Merit: 251

Are there any commands or startup switches that automatically re-size blocks, or do you have to do it manually? I'm using the latest ver 2.0.0

Manual as of yet.
hero member
Activity: 544
Merit: 500
---- More on staking ----

1. Analysis (this can be skipped if you do not have much time. Simply go and read 2. Recommendation)

I decided to go deeper into how we are doing in terms of staking. Today I was looking at recent blocks trying to find information what is the usual amount of coins which mints reward to provide some suggestions what could be optimal coins amount to stake. In theory amounts close to 2 000 000 coins are best since they can achieve highest weights. However 2 000 000 may be best in ideal world where all coin holders stake. In practice just portion of coins are being staked on regular basis while the rest may be deposited on an exchange, being staked every several months or simply forgotten.

Number of blocks inspected: 1000

Minimal amount of coins which managed to mint new coins: 469
Maximum amount: 9 264 403
Average amount: 477 159
Median amount: 47 004
Number of people running latest version of wallet which does not split transactions into two: 162 (16.2%).

If we look at the numbers we can see it is pretty easy to mint new coins since this is possible even with transactions lower than 10 000 coins. Important number is median which is about 50 000 coins. We should try to move this number higher. This can be achieved by organizing transactions into sizes in range between 100 000 - 250 000. Also running newest version of client will help since you can group your coins into recommended size range and there will be no need to maintain it on regular basis.


2. Recommendation

1. Group your coins into transactions between 100 000 - 250 000 coins.
2. Use newest wallet version which does not require regular maintenance: http://noble.ilikebtc.com/NobleCoin-Qt-v.2.0.2.zip
3. Try to stake on regular basis e.g. at least several hours per week.



Are there any commands or startup switches that automatically re-size blocks, or do you have to do it manually? I'm using the latest ver 2.0.0
HR
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1011
Transparency & Integrity
Add: When looking at the top 50 in the rich list https://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/#!rich , it looks like just under half are minting on a regular basis, and really wasting their coin age in the process since those are 7 million NOBL transaction sizes and up (the largest is minting a 143.5 million transaction size and is probably missing out on 90% of what could be minted if that were broken up into at least 70 smaller transactions).

I must admit that I made a mistake with this. I didn't realize that the Top 50 were not address specific, and that they include all the addresses in the associated wallet. I was also forgetting about the ability to split transactions within the same address, and the fact that the previous version of the wallet does that automatically. (The exaggerated example given is nonetheless illustrative in any event, even if it is not confirmed in practice - large NOBL holders in general do seem to be minting in a rational manner . . . even if perhaps some transaction sizes are extremely small, which works counter at the other end of the spectrum, and might warrant merging transactions . . .)

I'm thinking that study of the blockchain itself might be more efficient than individual testing . . .  Undecided

. . . but I'm going to keep up a test diary for the time being anyway.
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