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trax0r

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Quote from: eagleflies on July 03, 2015, 04:33:58 AM

The question is 'Do we need more exchanges right now?'.

In PoW world we had constant supply of fresh coins from multipools which was pushing price down and providing liquidity.
In PoS world with single digit inflation there is not so many sellers. Most people who stick with Noble are here for long term. They do not want to part with their coins at current valuation hence much weaker supply side.

I am not strongly against being listed on more exchanges but probably better time to expand would be when there is more liquidity.

Quote from: trax0r on July 03, 2015, 01:02:51 AM

Come on... Vote for NOBLE on Cryptopia Exchange. Currently Noble is leading the Vote:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Voting

Cryptopia is not just another exchange... if Noble passes the Vote on Cryptopia, this will offer different markets like NOBL/BTC, NOBL/LTC, NOBL/UNO, NOBL/DOT, NOBL/Dodge, NOBL/Feather and more.
Also there in no de-listing policy on Cryptopia. This means NOBL will have a steady home there.
And on the Cryptopia Market Place you can offer real goods with NOBL payment.

eagleflies

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The question is 'Do we need more exchanges right now?'.

In PoW world we had constant supply of fresh coins from multipools which was pushing price down and providing liquidity.
In PoS world with single digit inflation there is not so many sellers. Most people who stick with Noble are here for long term. They do not want to part with their coins at current valuation hence much weaker supply side.

I am not strongly against being listed on more exchanges but probably better time to expand would be when there is more liquidity.

Quote from: trax0r on July 03, 2015, 01:02:51 AM

Come on... Vote for NOBLE on Cryptopia Exchange. Currently Noble is leading the Vote:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Voting

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Quote from: trax0r on July 03, 2015, 01:02:51 AM

Come on... Vote for NOBLE on Cryptopia Exchange. Currently Noble is leading the Vote:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Voting

beat me to it Wink

(click the pic) three days to go

trax0r

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Come on... Vote for NOBLE on Cryptopia Exchange. Currently Noble is leading the Vote:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Voting

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Quote from: mkrypt on July 02, 2015, 11:28:10 AM

Quote from: kronicblazer on July 02, 2015, 04:46:59 AM

do you guys know if we would be able to get back onto bittrex? I realize I left almost 1mil NOBL on bittrex and they delisted the coin. Has anyone tried getting their NOBL from bittrex back after it was delisted?

From my experience I was able to transfer coins after delisting both on Bittrex and Poloniex. Is NOBL account shown in your "Wallets" menu on Bittrex?

Ya, its listed in my account balance with a yellow Disabled tab instead of the usual blue + - with my coin amount, but I can't do anything with it. Gonna try to contact support now, thx for the input.

edit: got a reply... "The nobl wallet is no longer on Bittrex servers"... guess they dumped all the free Noble they got from people somewhere already or just don't want to give it back. Anyone know if one of the top richlist wallets belong to Bittrex?

mkrypt

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Quote from: kronicblazer on July 02, 2015, 04:46:59 AM

do you guys know if we would be able to get back onto bittrex? I realize I left almost 1mil NOBL on bittrex and they delisted the coin. Has anyone tried getting their NOBL from bittrex back after it was delisted?

From my experience I was able to transfer coins after delisting both on Bittrex and Poloniex. Is NOBL account shown in your "Wallets" menu on Bittrex?

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do you guys know if we would be able to get back onto bittrex? I realize I left almost 1mil NOBL on bittrex and they delisted the coin. Has anyone tried getting their NOBL from bittrex back after it was delisted?

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Quote from: Allforone on June 30, 2015, 09:10:48 PM

Quote from: eagleflies on June 30, 2015, 11:18:19 AM

Non mandatory wallet update - version 2.0.2

Changes
- During minting transaction is no longer split into two halves. This is to improve user experience while still keeping network healthy.

Longer explanation
During switch to PoS we wanted to make sure network will be secure. Security in PoS world comes from keeping network difficulty high. One way of achieving this is to make sure big holders do not keep all their money in single transaction. PoS II provides incentives for big holders to split their money into number of transactions around 2 million coins in each. One way to enforce this is to split transactions into halves during minting process. This was preferable at the time of switch.

However now we passed network height of 110 000 blocks and transactions were split into chunks small enough. Recently we can observe the adverse effect that users are not happy about having to maintain their wallets every several weeks. Because if transaction sizes in wallet become too small it has problems with minting new coins and user needs to group several transactions into few bigger ones. In ideal world all users would strive to improve network security and perform this maintenance every several weeks. But it is better being realistic and improve users experience.

What was preferred at time of switch is not necessarily great now. If lots of users decide they do not want to spend time maintaining their wallets network difficulty will go down.

How to upgrade
1. It is always a good idea to backup your wallet.dat file.
2. Download, unzip and run newest version of client.

Do I have to upgrade?
No, you don't. If you do not mind maintaining your wallet every few weeks there is no need to download newest version.

What's the recommended size of transactions to ensure staking will work best?
In theory 2 000 000 coins is best size. However it reality it depends what is the current network difficulty and how many wallets are staking. Personally I never had any issues with transaction sizes between 100 000 - 2 000 000.

Download:
- Windows: http://noble.ilikebtc.com/NobleCoin-Qt-v.2.0.2.zip
- Linux: https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/

Thank you for this! Keep it up team

Thanks for this all now all going smooth and right keep this work up for us good luck

Allforone

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Quote from: eagleflies on June 30, 2015, 11:18:19 AM

Non mandatory wallet update - version 2.0.2

Changes
- During minting transaction is no longer split into two halves. This is to improve user experience while still keeping network healthy.

Longer explanation
During switch to PoS we wanted to make sure network will be secure. Security in PoS world comes from keeping network difficulty high. One way of achieving this is to make sure big holders do not keep all their money in single transaction. PoS II provides incentives for big holders to split their money into number of transactions around 2 million coins in each. One way to enforce this is to split transactions into halves during minting process. This was preferable at the time of switch.

However now we passed network height of 110 000 blocks and transactions were split into chunks small enough. Recently we can observe the adverse effect that users are not happy about having to maintain their wallets every several weeks. Because if transaction sizes in wallet become too small it has problems with minting new coins and user needs to group several transactions into few bigger ones. In ideal world all users would strive to improve network security and perform this maintenance every several weeks. But it is better being realistic and improve users experience.

What was preferred at time of switch is not necessarily great now. If lots of users decide they do not want to spend time maintaining their wallets network difficulty will go down.

How to upgrade
1. It is always a good idea to backup your wallet.dat file.
2. Download, unzip and run newest version of client.

Do I have to upgrade?
No, you don't. If you do not mind maintaining your wallet every few weeks there is no need to download newest version.

What's the recommended size of transactions to ensure staking will work best?
In theory 2 000 000 coins is best size. However it reality it depends what is the current network difficulty and how many wallets are staking. Personally I never had any issues with transaction sizes between 100 000 - 2 000 000.

Download:
- Windows: http://noble.ilikebtc.com/NobleCoin-Qt-v.2.0.2.zip
- Linux: https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/

Thank you for this! Keep it up team

NorrisK

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Quote from: eagleflies on June 30, 2015, 11:18:19 AM

Non mandatory wallet update - version 2.0.2

Changes
- During minting transaction is no longer split into two halves. This is to improve user experience while still keeping network healthy.

Longer explanation
During switch to PoS we wanted to make sure network will be secure. Security in PoS world comes from keeping network difficulty high. One way of achieving this is to make sure big holders do not keep all their money in single transaction. PoS II provides incentives for big holders to split their money into number of transactions around 2 million coins in each. One way to enforce this is to split transactions into halves during minting process. This was preferable at the time of switch.

However now we passed network height of 110 000 blocks and transactions were split into chunks small enough. Recently we can observe the adverse effect that users are not happy about having to maintain their wallets every several weeks. Because if transaction sizes in wallet become too small it has problems with minting new coins and user needs to group several transactions into few bigger ones. In ideal world all users would strive to improve network security and perform this maintenance every several weeks. But it is better being realistic and improve users experience.

What was preferred at time of switch is not necessarily great now. If lots of users decide they do not want to spend time maintaining their wallets network difficulty will go down.

How to upgrade
1. It is always a good idea to backup your wallet.dat file.
2. Download, unzip and run newest version of client.

Do I have to upgrade?
No, you don't. If you do not mind maintaining your wallet every few weeks there is no need to download newest version.

What's the recommended size of transactions to ensure staking will work best?
In theory 2 000 000 coins is best size. However it reality it depends what is the current network difficulty and how many wallets are staking. Personally I never had any issues with transaction sizes between 100 000 - 2 000 000.

Download:
- Windows: http://noble.ilikebtc.com/NobleCoin-Qt-v.2.0.2.zip
- Linux: https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/

Great that you have adressed some of the major critic points of lately. Thanks for the update!

eagleflies

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Non mandatory wallet update - version 2.0.2

Changes
- During minting transaction is no longer split into two halves. This is to improve user experience while still keeping network healthy.

Longer explanation
During switch to PoS we wanted to make sure network will be secure. Security in PoS world comes from keeping network difficulty high. One way of achieving this is to make sure big holders do not keep all their money in single transaction. PoS II provides incentives for big holders to split their money into number of transactions around 2 million coins in each. One way to enforce this is to split transactions into halves during minting process. This was preferable at the time of switch.

However now we passed network height of 110 000 blocks and transactions were split into chunks small enough. Recently we can observe the adverse effect that users are not happy about having to maintain their wallets every several weeks. Because if transaction sizes in wallet become too small it has problems with minting new coins and user needs to group several transactions into few bigger ones. In ideal world all users would strive to improve network security and perform this maintenance every several weeks. But it is better being realistic and improve users experience.

What was preferred at time of switch is not necessarily great now. If lots of users decide they do not want to spend time maintaining their wallets network difficulty will go down.

How to upgrade
1. It is always a good idea to backup your wallet.dat file.
2. Download, unzip and run newest version of client.

Do I have to upgrade?
No, you don't. If you do not mind maintaining your wallet every few weeks there is no need to download newest version.

What's the recommended size of transactions to ensure staking will work best?
In theory 2 000 000 coins is best size. However it reality it depends what is the current network difficulty and how many wallets are staking. Personally I never had any issues with transaction sizes between 100 000 - 2 000 000.

Download:
- Windows: http://noble.ilikebtc.com/NobleCoin-Qt-v.2.0.2.zip
- Linux: https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/

Sapfon

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Quote from: HR on June 30, 2015, 02:13:48 AM

Quote from: Sapfon on June 30, 2015, 12:24:59 AM

Hey,
I tried to send noblecoins from my wallet (old wallet but synced) to Poloniex last night, been about 9h but no verifications/confirmations. 0/5. Whats wrong ? What should I do ?

Generalized questions about specific issues are impossible to answer. You need to provide detailed information about your specific issue.

Open your Noblecoin wallet and select the "Transactions" tab.

Right click on the transaction you want to investigate, and click "Show transaction details" in the contextual menu.

Select and copy the contents of the of the Transaction detail window.

Paste your copied transaction details here.

It has now confirmed but no noble shown on Poloniex.

Status: 10 vahvistusta
Date: 29.6.2015 22:27
To: 9kaPgMZ5rHhbhEcgTPRkmXRr9tuELUNdzf
Debit: -262932.39084084 NOBLE
Net amount: -262932.39084084 NOBLE
Transaction ID: 61c849fc6b9829a28449ecab919d1a85f92147355ee6aef010781909cc00dc87

Triple checked that address is same as the one in Poloniex. Issue with Poloniex ?

HR

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Quote from: Sapfon on June 30, 2015, 12:24:59 AM

Hey,
I tried to send noblecoins from my wallet (old wallet but synced) to Poloniex last night, been about 9h but no verifications/confirmations. 0/5. Whats wrong ? What should I do ?

Generalized questions about specific issues are impossible to answer. You need to provide detailed information about your specific issue.

Open your Noblecoin wallet and select the "Transactions" tab.

Right click on the transaction you want to investigate, and click "Show transaction details" in the contextual menu.

Select and copy the contents of the of the Transaction detail window.

Paste your copied transaction details here.

Sapfon

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Hey,
I tried to send noblecoins from my wallet (old wallet but synced) to Poloniex last night, been about 9h but no verifications/confirmations. 0/5. Whats wrong ? What should I do ?

HR

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Is it necessary to have to split minted coins into two blocks?

It seems logical to think a same sized output would be equally viable and easy to code . . .

What are the main pros and cons of each?

eagleflies

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Quote from: doremi on June 29, 2015, 04:56:30 AM

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thanks for the concern from both of you and eagleflies....screenshots may be too late for me now for i already cash out all my coins to exchange side.

OK. Just to let you know - I am going to publish updated wallet in the coming days. The change should help in cases like yours.

trax0r

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Start Voting on Cryptopia for this week to get NobleCoin added to the exchange there:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/HomeAction/Voting

doremi

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Quote from: HR on June 28, 2015, 02:39:32 PM

Quote from: doremi on June 28, 2015, 06:30:03 AM

Quote from: eagleflies on June 28, 2015, 05:48:34 AM

Quote from: doremi on June 28, 2015, 05:05:08 AM

Quote from: eagleflies on June 28, 2015, 03:47:19 AM

Quote from: doremi on June 27, 2015, 07:34:11 AM

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Quote from: doremi on June 27, 2015, 05:21:09 AM

this POS wallet is totally a crap..i sent all my coins to a new address(myself) at 01/June due to minting issue but it seems doesn`t work at all..after more than 25 days and now when i try to mint..it says" Not minting because you don`t have mature coins" ? what the frak!

was the wallet open these 25 days ?
look at the graphs above.
with enough amount of coins you can easily reach a lowest staking level in 25 days,
in reality it stops staking at all, right as you said - no mature coins.

wallet was opened several times among these 25 days and everytime it shows the same informations about no mature coins,and today when i opend and unlocked my wallet and see the same issue still around and it piss me off...as far as i know ..all our coins are supposed recorded in blockchain and by that mean after i removed it for 25 days,my coinage are supposed 25 days old and since minimum coinage that can be mint is 2 hours,that is really ridiculous after 25 days it still "unmature",if this coin need to open wallet 7/24 just for minting..then yes..this coin or wallet is really sucks!

Are you sure wallet was unlocked? Usually "unmature" means it is still locked so minting cannot happen.

If it was unlocked could you try the following:
1. generate new receiving address in your wallet (or get address from an exchange)
2. send there money (in case you sent money to an exchange you need to send it back to your wallet)
3. after 2 hours you should see wallet is minting

If you have more than 2 000 000 coins send them in several batches between 500 000 and 2 000 000 in size. This will increase competitiveness of your wallet.

that is very different between the information of "not minting besause wallet is locked" and "not minting because you don`t have mature coins"..i'm not a newbie in POS coin and in fact i'm a fan of POS coin,i'm pretty sure this wallet is something wrong with it for i have been tested on it for far more than 2 hours and today when i checked it again couple minutes ago..you guess what-------->"Not minting because you don`t have mature coins" .

Well, it was advertised from the very beginning when we considered going PoS II route that PoS II has several unique features. One of them is providing incentive for big holders to split their transactions into smaller chunks. I do believe this makes sense since if someone holds 50% of coins in one transaction this would seriously lower whole network security. So providing such incentive for big holders works for everyone benefit.

I do not know how many coins you hold so just speculating - if you hold 10 millions (in one transaction) or more and start your wallet every 1-2 months it is quite possible you will not be able to mint. Solution to this would be to split your holdings into several chunks between 0,5 - 2 million in size each.

5.6 millions if you would like to know that the volume i'm talking about...the fuuny thing is..i did have an unacceptable for about 618 minting coins next day after removed(to new address myself),but the weird part is how come there was an unaccptable POS if i do not have mature coins? ,and i already told that(in previous post) my wallet has been unlocked several times to test for minting among these 26 days,so,can you explain to me why i still getting the information of "Not minting because you don`t have mature coins" ?

Screenshots ranging from Coin Control list view to error messages would be a big help.

thanks for the concern from both of you and eagleflies....screenshots may be too late for me now for i already cash out all my coins to exchange side.