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Topic: Not Just a Pipe Dream: Texas gets ready to leave the U.S. (Read 1475 times)

legendary
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So should Mexico be a part of the US?

If illegals did two things, they couldn't be stopped from entering the States:
1. Learn to be fluent in English;
2. Understand the common law like Karl Lentz - Meet Karl Lentz https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/meet-karl-lentz-1512214.

Mexico is civil law. Most U.S. people act like the U.S. is civil law. The U.S. is common law. Common law means that in the States, a man or woman can overcome every governmental action and law in court, as long as they have harmed nobody, nor damaged any property.

Potentially, if you use common law right, you can take up ownership of any public land for free, because the government will never be able to find a plaintiff to take the stand in court, and show how you damaged him or his property. The plaintiff is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA can't place "his" hand on the Bible, take the oath or affirmation, get on the stand, and speak anything into the record. Yet the common law requires this to be done if you, the accused, demand it.

In the case of illegals in the States, they are not required to to answer any government official. If they demand a common law trial, there must be harm or damage. There is nobody who will get on the stand and show some real kind of harm or damage. They are free. They don't have to state their land of citizenship. If they are living "here," they are domiciled here.

It's time we start to put the brakes on government.

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I love how you defend common law against civil law. The constitution and bor is civil law for you? I think you oppose it right?

The Constitution is common law. But all law that comes about because of the Constitution is civil law directed.

The Constitution is reasonable. But any limitations on Congress are overridden by Article 1 Section 8 Clause 18 where it says, "The Congress shall have Power ... To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."

This clause makes it look like Congress can make any law to do anything and use, as their excuse, the idea that they are doing it so that they can perform some function of the Constitution. This scares people, because it looks like Congress can make us all slaves according to some law that they invent.

But nobody tells the people about the peoples' OWN strength found in the Preamble to the Constitution. Attorneys and judges and politicians, if they are questioned about the Preamble, they say that it was simply some words that set the stage for making the Constitution, and that it has no legal effect. Well, they are half right. The Preamble has no legal wording in it that they can use. They can't use it because ALL (100%) of what they can use is in the Constitution and the laws and statutes and codes that they make by authority of the Constitution.

The Preamble is common law, and was in official existence before any of the Constitution. It is also the strongest source the people have to use against the government, against the Constitution, against anything that flows out of the Constitution, if necessary. Yet almost nobody knows it.

The Preamble:
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

So, how is the Preamble a protection and source of strength for "we the people?" After all, Wikipedia where I copied the Preamble from, says in its introductory paragraph to its Preamble page:
The Preamble to the United States Constitution is a brief introductory statement of the Constitution's fundamental purposes and guiding principles. It states in general terms, and courts have referred to it as reliable evidence of, the Founding Fathers' intentions regarding the Constitution's meaning and what they hoped the Constitution would achieve.
Where is the strength for the people? Here it is.

The whole Preamble talks about the Constitution as being a benefit for the people.

If government takes your tax money, is that a benefit for you? They never itemize any benefits that you received.

If government drafts you into the military, sends you off to war, but won't take care of you when you come home all disabled, is that a benefit for you?

If government allows companies to outsource to China, and you can't find a job, is that a benefit to you?

If the cops raid your house by mistake, and then won't pay for the damage they did, is that a benefit for you?

The list goes on and on. Government may say that this is all benefiting you in some way. But it sure doesn't feel like it. And often, those of us who die because of what the government does, have the most peace.

The point? When people in government are not acting as a benefit to you personally, they are acting outside of what the government was made for... as stated by the Preamble. They are acting outside of their authority. They can be sued as a regular person, and not in their governmental capacity.

Karl Lentz doesn't talk about the Preamble like this, because our common law strength exists without the Preamble. As long as we have not personally signed a contract or agreement with government, there is no place in all law where the people placed themselves under government. It doesn't exist. Government has no authority. The things that Karl Lentz promotes have to do with clearly showing the people how they can individually make government a believer that it has no authority over us, for anything, from taxation, to taking our kids from us, to making us obey traffic laws to anything.

If you want to see it clearly from what Karl says, watch Karl Lentz at Johnson City Tennessee - April 16th 2016 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3MI70PFBw#t=105m00s. Watch closely to see what Karl says exactly where you come in at the link when you click it.

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So should Mexico be a part of the US?

If illegals did two things, they couldn't be stopped from entering the States:
1. Learn to be fluent in English;
2. Understand the common law like Karl Lentz - Meet Karl Lentz https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/meet-karl-lentz-1512214.

Mexico is civil law. Most U.S. people act like the U.S. is civil law. The U.S. is common law. Common law means that in the States, a man or woman can overcome every governmental action and law in court, as long as they have harmed nobody, nor damaged any property.

Potentially, if you use common law right, you can take up ownership of any public land for free, because the government will never be able to find a plaintiff to take the stand in court, and show how you damaged him or his property. The plaintiff is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA can't place "his" hand on the Bible, take the oath or affirmation, get on the stand, and speak anything into the record. Yet the common law requires this to be done if you, the accused, demand it.

In the case of illegals in the States, they are not required to to answer any government official. If they demand a common law trial, there must be harm or damage. There is nobody who will get on the stand and show some real kind of harm or damage. They are free. They don't have to state their land of citizenship. If they are living "here," they are domiciled here.

It's time we start to put the brakes on government.

Cool

I love how you defend common law against civil law. The constitution and bor is civil law for you? I think you oppose it right?
legendary
Activity: 3906
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So should Mexico be a part of the US?

If illegals did two things, they couldn't be stopped from entering the States:
1. Learn to be fluent in English;
2. Understand the common law like Karl Lentz - Meet Karl Lentz https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/meet-karl-lentz-1512214.

Mexico is civil law. Most U.S. people act like the U.S. is civil law. The U.S. is common law. Common law means that in the States, a man or woman can overcome every governmental action and law in court, as long as they have harmed nobody, nor damaged any property.

Potentially, if you use common law right, you can take up ownership of any public land for free, because the government will never be able to find a plaintiff to take the stand in court, and show how you damaged him or his property. The plaintiff is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA can't place "his" hand on the Bible, take the oath or affirmation, get on the stand, and speak anything into the record. Yet the common law requires this to be done if you, the accused, demand it.

In the case of illegals in the States, they are not required to to answer any government official. If they demand a common law trial, there must be harm or damage. There is nobody who will get on the stand and show some real kind of harm or damage. They are free. They don't have to state their land of citizenship. If they are living "here," they are domiciled here.

It's time we start to put the brakes on government.

Cool
legendary
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A new Secession War would be awesome ! And maybe with the return of slavery at final ! Well, I'm dreaming too much...

Who told you, you couldn't become one? ;-)

If he pays taxes, he already is one.    Cool
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A new Secession War would be awesome ! And maybe with the return of slavery at final ! Well, I'm dreaming too much...

Who told you, you couldn't become one? ;-)
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Gloire à la Victoire !
A new Secession War would be awesome ! And maybe with the return of slavery at final ! Well, I'm dreaming too much...
legendary
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So should Mexico be a part of the US?
No, because Mexico has serious problems.  They go back hundreds of years.
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The saddest part is that I understand the real American patriots who will want to secede from what the Union has become. Earlier marxists were hunted on American and worldwide soils... And for good reason apparently. Now there are lynch, Wendy from Idaho, holder, Hillary and Barack all pushing for this Marxist agenda...
The US has been changing on a 180 degree angle.
 
So should Mexico be a part of the US?
(former) Mexico is part of the US.
Alta California, New Mexico, Texas.

 

In beginning of the 2000's I discussed with some of the Marxists and leftists to try to understand them... Frankly one is enough they think in block, regurgitating the program... They hide under good intentions for all and were able to attract the weak and uncompetitive. The vicious part is that it comes from the top... A lot of those Marxists and hardcore leftists are the heirs of the biggest fortunes of the us... They are fucking traitors... Certainly they were targeted by soviet agents... Domestic ennemies can come from all background. The problem what happen when the domestic ennemies become the majority? Nothing the constitution doesn't care... A republic of you can keep it.
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The saddest part is that I understand the real American patriots who will want to secede from what the Union has become. Earlier marxists were hunted on American and worldwide soils... And for good reason apparently. Now there are lynch, Wendy from Idaho, holder, Hillary and Barack all pushing for this Marxist agenda...
The US has been changing on a 180 degree angle.
 
So should Mexico be a part of the US?
(former) Mexico is part of the US.
Alta California, New Mexico, Texas.

 
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I think time has come for states to be independent from the mainstream administrations. The brexit has provided lessons to the rest and i predict more countries seeking independence from the economic/political blocks. If such an action takes place, then you can expect more states seeking to annex themselves from the larger USA.
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So should Mexico be a part of the US?
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Yes, it is a good idea to oppose to bankers.
legendary
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I hear that Texas is the only State that, right in its enabling act when it was formed, as part of the contract to be a State between itself and the United States, has the right to secede, no questions asked, any time it wants.

Since this is by contract, the U.S. has no right to even attempt to stop it.

Smiley

You heard wrong.
Let's see who's right here.
Wikipedia:
"The Republic of Texas declared independence from the Republic of Mexico on March 2, 1836. At the time the vast majority of the Texian population favored the annexation of the Republic by the United States.
Texas' current legal status is as a state of the United States of America."
There is a lot of stuff there but nothing about a right to secede, so, yes, BADecker, you heard wrong, I guess
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Wasn't the civil war necessary to pave he way for the federal reserve creation? Taking over the USA financially couldn't be peaceful.
legendary
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The southern states should combine, and break free from the corrupt bankers and politicians in the North.

They could call it the American Confederation. Smiley

Actually, this can be done quite easily. If people had understood common law at the time of the Civil War, the War could have been completely avoided. What I mean is this.

Neither the State nor the Federal governments have any authority over people where a person harms nobody in anything he might do. For example. If a State has complete gun control and completely outlaws guns, in court, if a person uses common law and requires a person he harmed with a gun to show up at the trial, if there was no harm to anybody, the case is dismissed or discharged, no matter what the gun laws are.

Another example. You are doing 100 MPH on the highway in a posted 65 MPH zone. You get arrested. In court, you can require the plaintiff get on the stand and testify as to the harm or damage you did to him. In the first place, the plaintiff is the State, so "he" can't get on the stand. In the second place, you didn't harm anyone or damage any property. State loses. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10.

The point is, if the people get together and inform themselves of their "New Organization," and simply bypass the laws of the State, and don't have anything to do with elections, the State capitol just sits there, and the few people remaining in State government have little if any authority. The New Organization is operated by contract between the people. Even the Federal government can't shut this down because we have the right to contract listed in the Constitution.

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The saddest part is that I understand the real American patriots who will want to secede from what the Union has become. Earlier marxists were hunted on American and worldwide soils... And for good reason apparently. Now there are lynch, Wendy from Idaho, holder, Hillary and Barack all pushing for this Marxist agenda...

You can criticize as much as you want bush 1 or 2 but Benghazi would have not happen on their watch. As CIC bush2 would not even have been waken by Cheney or Rumsfeld because both would be sleeping like baby and the chain of command directly in the area would have acted to do what was necessary and if it means no man landing lybia a quick call to confirm that from dc would have been obtain in seconds... Letting American dies with drones and satellites watching... No way. And those trapped inside would have felt the biggest cracker show in their all life... A ring of fire... They could have been a billion insurgents tuning toward the complex the munitions would have burn and ash them faster than they could breath... Obama stand still as CIC and let Hillary took the hit and weaken her candidacy (when there a few billions reason to hate her, she wasn't Cic... So deflecting the blame on her is proof positive of the protection of potus... As he could do no wrong... Ain't your messiah leftist). Just a man.
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The southern states should combine, and break free from the corrupt bankers and politicians in the North.

They could call it the American Confederation. Smiley
legendary
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Time for Texas to secede from the United States. Brexit is almost like Britain seceding from the European Union.


Texit.


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I don't think that US government will allow that to happen. Texas maybe large but the rest of the states wouldn't allow that to happen either because they need "Texas money" to fill US vaults. Also there are elections coming up so that will keep everybody busy for a while, after that new promises, new talking etc. and 4 years later everything begins anew
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