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Topic: Notice:: PROJECT X, Come Join the Movement - page 6. (Read 12524 times)

legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1000
September 22, 2014, 09:19:16 AM
#86
The only issue I have is how the list of coins are selected.

To make this truly all encompassing wouldn't you need to add quite a large percentage, if not all, of the 1000+ coins already in existence?

Can anyone suggest coins they would like to add?

legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
September 22, 2014, 09:12:02 AM
#85
I don't know if this has been said or not. Tired, long day and don't want to read every sentence.

1) Snapshot is taken.
2) Move your coins to another wallet.
3) Use private keys from original wallet that had your coins during the snapshot.

Problem solved.  Wink



Yeah I already figured out that this was a decent solution however I am unclear whether or not every address is being implemented from all included coins because having to do something like that poses its own problems not to mention the inconvience of having to move coins that would otherwise receive PoS and now resetting your coin age

You wouldn't be moving coins by inputing your private key into his wallet.  You'd be showing him that you own the coins and you'd also be exposing those coins to security risks.  You could move your coins to a new wallet after the snapshot, yes.  But when the snapshot is taken would be decided by barwizi or his people while they potentially control your keys thru their software.  This leaves enough time for your keys to be exposed and your coins to be stolen.  If the pillage process is automated then it only takes a few seconds.

Problem NOT solved.  Wink

Problem is solved.

1. Snapshot is taken of your BTC address XYZ with 100BTC balance
2. Move your BTC to new address ABC from XYZ -> essentially moving any coins from your original private key to new private key.
3. Input your private key from bitcoin wallet for XYZ (which now has 0 balance) into project X wallet.

That way even if the project x wallet has bad intentions (which I don't believe it would) by the time you input your original XYZ private key there would be no balance to steal anyway.

Totally fail safe. Just quite a hassle to move all your coins from all the various wallets to new private keys after the snapshot....



Thanks

For the issue you raise, i guess it's up to the user to decide if they want all their coins Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1000
September 22, 2014, 09:09:03 AM
#84
I don't know if this has been said or not. Tired, long day and don't want to read every sentence.

1) Snapshot is taken.
2) Move your coins to another wallet.
3) Use private keys from original wallet that had your coins during the snapshot.

Problem solved.  Wink



Yeah I already figured out that this was a decent solution however I am unclear whether or not every address is being implemented from all included coins because having to do something like that poses its own problems not to mention the inconvience of having to move coins that would otherwise receive PoS and now resetting your coin age

You wouldn't be moving coins by inputing your private key into his wallet.  You'd be showing him that you own the coins and you'd also be exposing those coins to security risks.  You could move your coins to a new wallet after the snapshot, yes.  But when the snapshot is taken would be decided by barwizi or his people while they potentially control your keys thru their software.  This leaves enough time for your keys to be exposed and your coins to be stolen.  If the pillage process is automated then it only takes a few seconds.

Problem NOT solved.  Wink

Problem is solved.

1. Snapshot is taken of your BTC address XYZ with 100BTC balance
2. Move your BTC to new address ABC from XYZ -> essentially moving any coins from your original private key to new private key.
3. Input your private key from bitcoin wallet for XYZ (which now has 0 balance) into project X wallet.

That way even if the project x wallet has bad intentions (which I don't believe it would) by the time you input your original XYZ private key there would be no balance to steal anyway.

Totally fail safe. Just quite a hassle to move all your coins from all the various wallets to new private keys after the snapshot....

legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
September 22, 2014, 08:08:41 AM
#83
...
How to get your Coins
--------------------------

...
type dumpprivkey "insertyouraddresshere" and copy the result.

Then in the XUC wallet

HELP--> DEBUG WINDOW --> CONSOLE

type importprivkey "yourprivatekeyhere",

Why do not use signmessage?
signmessage
Sign a message with the private key of an address



You can prove ownership of an address using signmessage yes...but how will you redeem them?
Little english ... sorry,
if I understand, you can sign a message that assign coin to new one in your coin with new private key and new address.

You are talking about Ownership, i am saying that you cannot use sign message to redeem your coins.
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1120
September 22, 2014, 07:56:49 AM
#82
...
How to get your Coins
--------------------------

...
type dumpprivkey "insertyouraddresshere" and copy the result.

Then in the XUC wallet

HELP--> DEBUG WINDOW --> CONSOLE

type importprivkey "yourprivatekeyhere",

Why do not use signmessage?
signmessage
Sign a message with the private key of an address



You can prove ownership of an address using signmessage yes...but how will you redeem them?
Little english ... sorry,
if I understand, you can sign a message that assign coin to new one in your coin with new private key and new address.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
September 22, 2014, 07:52:15 AM
#81
...
How to get your Coins
--------------------------

...
type dumpprivkey "insertyouraddresshere" and copy the result.

Then in the XUC wallet

HELP--> DEBUG WINDOW --> CONSOLE

type importprivkey "yourprivatekeyhere",

Why do not use signmessage?
signmessage
Sign a message with the private key of an address



You can prove ownership of an address using signmessage yes...but how will you redeem them?
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1120
September 22, 2014, 07:44:57 AM
#80
...
How to get your Coins
--------------------------

...
type dumpprivkey "insertyouraddresshere" and copy the result.

Then in the XUC wallet

HELP--> DEBUG WINDOW --> CONSOLE

type importprivkey "yourprivatekeyhere",

Why do not use signmessage?
signmessage
Sign a message with the private key of an address
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
September 22, 2014, 07:03:36 AM
#79
I don't really understand the idea of this project. So the devs of all participating coins should hardfork to your 1% premine PoW coin and half of the coin supply will be distributed over the non-zero balance addresses weighted by normalized market cap? I mean the old blockchains still exist, do you want the devs to abandon their projects to join this one? Then someone else could pick up the development on the old chain and keep the market cap in the original coin.

BTW, most of the developers of the coins in the list would be able to arrange the same thing without you and without the 1% premine.

Noone is hardforking anything, and people can continue on their chains, they are simply being given a share in this with no strings attached. No dev is asked to join this project or abandon his , please take time to read the OP properly as everything is there.

BTW, most of the developers of the coins in the list would be able to arrange the same thing without you and without the 1% premine.

But they did not come up with the idea did they? Anyone can fork the chain or copy my idea if they wish , such is crypto. But in the end, if all you can do is copy someone else's ideas, you don't amount to much do you?
sr. member
Activity: 248
Merit: 250
September 22, 2014, 04:10:01 AM
#78
I don't really understand the idea of this project. So the devs of all participating coins should hardfork to your 1% premine PoW coin and half of the coin supply will be distributed over the non-zero balance addresses weighted by normalized market cap? I mean the old blockchains still exist, do you want the devs to abandon their projects to join this one? Then someone else could pick up the development on the old chain and keep the market cap in the original coin.

BTW, most of the developers of the coins in the list would be able to arrange the same thing without you and without the 1% premine.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
September 22, 2014, 03:43:03 AM
#77
Every big exchange will love this coin. Massive shares. Am i right?
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
September 22, 2014, 02:27:39 AM
#76
plz add devcoin to the list
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
September 22, 2014, 02:22:29 AM
#75
I know it is a young coin, but I submit LTCD for this project, too. I hope you guys like it enough to include it in your new project here!! thnx.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ltcd-litecoindarkcom-scrypt-difficulty-shield-multipool-fast-760143

~darylluke.
hero member
Activity: 540
Merit: 500
September 22, 2014, 02:11:55 AM
#74
Beware of this dev, he has taken tons of BTC from Noir Group including most of an ICO and a 10% premine. This thread explains further:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791890.new#new

Notice that the premine of XUC will be much larger than 1% because likely less that 5% of snapshot coins will be claimed
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1001
September 21, 2014, 11:23:33 PM
#73
Wanst this a movie in the 80's?  Grin
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
September 21, 2014, 10:52:59 PM
#72
Move coins to new key, send old key?

With my method, there are no keys exchanged at all. So apart from getting free coins, you also get anonymity as a bonus.
He is saying that you would move your coins to a new key, wait for the snapshot then move your coins back to your primary key and use the snapshotted key to prevent you/others from getting your primary key
I think more explanation is needed for example when you claim your coins do you have them under the same address but in the project x chain?

If you happened to be holding NRS before our snapshot you could have a live demonstration, no, the address changes to fit the prefix of the new chain,, it does not remain the same.
Ok now this is actually a technical question, how does 1 private key produce multiple public keys? Or does it? I am confused because I don't quiet understand how if we import a private key into your blockchain how will the blockchain be able to know the private key for another chain's public key?

the keys are unique to each other, you'll need to understand bitcoin base58 for total understanding , but basically each matching pair can be converted to another version , for example, Bitcoin uses 1 as it's prefix so if we want that key to fit for example NoirShares, we need to convert to 0x35 == 53 which is N .

its the same key, just converted to match our prefix
full member
Activity: 239
Merit: 100
Socialist Cryptocurrency Devote
September 21, 2014, 10:46:30 PM
#71
Move coins to new key, send old key?

With my method, there are no keys exchanged at all. So apart from getting free coins, you also get anonymity as a bonus.
He is saying that you would move your coins to a new key, wait for the snapshot then move your coins back to your primary key and use the snapshotted key to prevent you/others from getting your primary key
I think more explanation is needed for example when you claim your coins do you have them under the same address but in the project x chain?

If you happened to be holding NRS before our snapshot you could have a live demonstration, no, the address changes to fit the prefix of the new chain,, it does not remain the same.
Ok now this is actually a technical question, how does 1 private key produce multiple public keys? Or does it? I am confused because I don't quiet understand how if we import a private key into your blockchain how will the blockchain be able to know the private key for another chain's public key? I mean I did participate in converting my noirstake to noirstake 2.0 but I just imagined that was because of the same code base.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
September 21, 2014, 10:36:43 PM
#70
Move coins to new key, send old key?

With my method, there are no keys exchanged at all. So apart from getting free coins, you also get anonymity as a bonus.
He is saying that you would move your coins to a new key, wait for the snapshot then move your coins back to your primary key and use the snapshotted key to prevent you/others from getting your primary key
I think more explanation is needed for example when you claim your coins do you have them under the same address but in the project x chain?

If you happened to be holding NRS before our snapshot you could have a live demonstration, no, the address changes to fit the prefix of the new chain,, it does not remain the same.
full member
Activity: 239
Merit: 100
Socialist Cryptocurrency Devote
September 21, 2014, 10:33:20 PM
#69
Move coins to new key, send old key?

With my method, there are no keys exchanged at all. So apart from getting free coins, you also get anonymity as a bonus.
He is saying that you would move your coins to a new key, wait for the snapshot then move your coins back to your primary key and use the snapshotted key to prevent you/others from getting your primary key
I think more explanation is needed for example when you claim your coins do you have them under the same address but in the project x chain?
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
September 21, 2014, 10:32:26 PM
#68
looking forward to this Project
good luck
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
September 21, 2014, 10:00:52 PM
#67
Sync added
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