Topic: Notre Dame destroyed by fire - page 2. (Read 13682 times)

Man with gas cans arrested at St. Patrick’s church in NYC https://www.apnews.com/ae918e45ffcb45399afb87376cf15c6a

No doubt that this work of art is in the history, the sad part for me is that rich people in Europe can give $700M(If I am not mistaken) to rebuild the said church and why can't they do the same thing to solve poverty. Are they having this mindset that it might saved them from all their sins?

parts are gone forever though. Some artworks will never be done again.
Building is often more important than human life. It seems you don't understand that human life isn't precious at all. It's very cheap. Humans reproduce pretty fast and 99% of them are patheticly identical. There is nothing precious in human life.

Sometimes though, humans manage to do extraordinary things, and those things they build are precious. I would be more sad of the loss of Notre Dame or Versailles or the Schönbrunn castle than of the death of 2 millions people. Because 2 millions human life isn't worth much. 131 millions human are born every year, how can one life be precious? Humans are one of the most disposable resource we have, if not THE most disposable ressource.
Because they aren't ours... You do understand that what is not yours is less important to you that what is yours no? If you want an example, you'll be pretty sad if terrorists killed your wife/husband even though as a country you have killed millions of loved ones accross the world.
No, I'm crying about a cracked phone in a metaphorical room with ONLY people with badass phones, who are wealthy as fuck and lack nothing. The ones poor, dying and having lost everything are in the streets, not with us.
No we couldn't. Our whole system is based on the explotation of others. For 600 millions of people having our occidental lifestyle, we need nearly 7 billions people working more or less for us. We're blue blood in their castle while peasants die of famine in the near village. We can't just "share" and "pool our ressources". That would be the end of our society as it BASED on human explotation and violence.
Your article is dumb as hell.
Everyone is pooling on this not because it is an autority symbol, but because it's easy and non controversial. Everyone can say "oh we're so sorry, we're here to help" knowing that in worse case scenario they'll have to send 5 millions for this which is nothing. While if anyone would say that for Africa famines for example, it would be completely hypocritical as we NEED those famines. They're what allow us to control this continent and its ressources.

We will NEVER help Africa simply because the suffering of Africa is OUR happiness.

Is it too hard to understand?
No need for this virtue signaling. Your part of a horrible, inhumane system dear.

I am simply pointing out the obvious fact that legitimate arson investigations done with proper due diligence aren't completed before all the embers are extinguished. I am not claiming the Earth is flat here, this is common sense.

The catholic church's reported assets are 30 billion and they also hold ~15% of the Italian stock market value.  None of this is counting the real estate, art, and antiquities which no one knows the true value of.  Their wealth and power is unrivaled. 

Yes, valid arson investigations usually last hours do they? I am sure this supposed declaration before the place even stopped burning is totally legitimate.

"Notre Dame fire 2019-04-15 - Person moving and flash on the roof?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgfYYMjpf1s

It was really sad to see what happened to Notre Dame cathedral. I think we need to put religion aside now. First of all it was just not a church. It was important of France and world history. 900 years of history. It survived France revolution, WW1, WW2 and other important periods of history. And offcourse, beautiful architecture of this building is must mention thing. And all art inside it, unfortunately part of it was destroyed by fire and water I'm not religious person, but I hate to see laughing reactions of muslims on social networks.
This cathedral will be rebuilt, but it wont be the same and unique anymore...

Please don't use the church in your scamming actions. It's obvious that your account was just created in order to collect funds and to "compensate the destroyed church."

I'm not protecting the church but I think that their money is not enough to restore the church. It takes millions I guess to do that.

I'm sure everyone can agree that when we see something like this happen, some of us that like the history want to help. Trying to compare this to world hunger is not compatible. There are many people who do help with big problems like this. It takes a charitable person willing to go there to actually help, and that takes going out of your comfort level no matter where you come from. There is part of me that wants to be charitable, and I am, but for some this charity can be at the cost of something else. It could be a sudden health problem or maybe taxes are too much in your country. Everyone has problems and we should just try to help out as much as we are able to, but charity should never be forced, because then you are on the edge of slavery.

This was not arson. Arson was ruled out pretty quickly.  This is not about economic ideology.
The building was not lost, it was damaged.  It is only temporarily lost and was always going to be repaired.  It sucks but worse things happen everyday. I'm criticizing the lack of perspective and your exaggeration "loss of nd" is more evidence of that lack of perspective. I'm criticizing the worshipping of material by Christians.  I understand that the loss of a symbol is considered a national tragedy and that is my point.  Valuing a material symbol over the lives of hundreds of people is a disgusting choice and not a choice that even has to be made.  You could value both but choose to value the building over the people and that is where I lay criticism.  

No one said the loss of Notre Dame would be ok.  Its a cultural loss.  The connection is that it shows where your values and perspective are.  As a country, you are responsible for damage to so many people's Notre Dame's and hardly bat an eye. You are crying about a cracked phone in a metaphorical room with people who have lost loved ones, and everything dear to them.  Thats where its tone-deaf.  So many people have nothing and people who took everything are devastated about damage to one building.


I'm complaining because things like "UN issues appeal for 4.4 billion in emergency funds to deal with famine" happen and are hardly a story but when the wealthiest institution in the history of the world has one building catch fire, support and donations pour in from around the world.  This event is proof that society can pool their global attention onto an issue and collect resources to solve it within hours.  We could do both without communism.

Imagine a world where life on Earth is valued as a symbol for life on Earth.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/notre-dame-case-misplaced-empathy-190416175229594.html

The Crown of Thorns is safe and no it's not a heinous crime... stop spreading shitty rumours, don't try to make it what it's absolutely not.  

This is something very unfortunate, what I'm not sure is if they burned some important relics like the crown of thorns and the nails with which they nailed the arms of Jesus Christ that they used on the cross. I think that if it is a terrorist act at the time of the week for the Catholic religion is very heinous, I think that if that is the case, anyone who puts himself in the things of God, the Heavenly Father will not finish things well.

Looks to me like a double diversion, redirection of public opinion but the questions is from what?
Your link would be my suspect nr1, those messiah prophecies won't realise by themself, right?
Second thing would be EU's voting for basically a destruction of free internet today.
Talk about killing two birds with one stone...

I am sorry, but I lived in communism so you are the one not understanding it. Yawn.

It means what I said. That and you have poor reading comprehension and or are projecting.

https://images.cointelegraph.com/images/740_Ly9jb2ludGVsZWdyYXBoLmNvbS9zdG9yYWdlL3VwbG9hZHMvdmlldy8xNTMw.jpg

EDIT: Why does my image link is not showing up???

You said "Communists love destroying history".
If that's not the same as saying "all communists love destroying history" then what does that mean?

I don't remember saying all people who call themselves Communists love destroying history. I did however say Communism relies on justifying victimizing others by claiming to be rectifying the wrong done to victim classes. If there is a historical record it makes it hard to keep using the same strategy over and over because people might see the pattern and learn from it.

Another interesting related article: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/772495/al-aqsa-mosque-fire-jerusalem-notre-dame-islam-muslims-jews-israel-palestine

the biggest communists today are the usa and the EU.

future russian foreign information war will be accusing those as being communists claiming itself to be capitalist and turn the entire anti communism propaganda the western governments used against russians and educated their population against them.

it will be like a weapon that fires at the one that triggers it.