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Topic: Novello Technologies new Mining System Project, prices as low as $0.3/GH - page 11. (Read 40884 times)

legendary
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If you'd read the text then you would have clearly seen two names mentioned. You can also see the Indiegogo page and who's leading the project, so I suspect you may ave simply skimmed over it.
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Now, if you really think that we're going to present detailed CV's to a poster on a forum that hides behind a username, then that's simply not going to happen, If you want an engineering or financial discussion, then we'll gladly have one.

Beat this or go home:

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/pages/team
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If you'd read the text then you would have clearly seen two names mentioned. You can also see the Indiegogo page and who's leading the project, so I suspect you may ave simply skimmed over it.
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Now, if you really think that we're going to present detailed CV's to a poster on a forum that hides behind a username, then that's simply not going to happen, If you want an engineering or financial discussion, then we'll gladly have one.

You don't really think we are going to trust millions of dollars to a "marketing professional" and "Technical Manager" right?

You don't need to present a detailed CV to give us a name of your HW/FW/SW engineer and what experience they have.

Also your claims sound like BS. I suppose you don't have a shred of evidence to support them?

Yes we have, but even if we were inclined to hand details of our chip design over to someone that hides behind a username, I sincerely doubt you would understand them, Try reading the books we recommended, then come back and tell us why it's bullshit. if you have technical information to share that says were wrong, then show it. Don't include everybody in 'we' - you might not like what you read but others are free to make up their own minds.
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Is this the next big scam company after Black Arrow?

Can't be. Jimmothy isn't on board:

Looks like a scam.

Will be watching for now.
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Looks like a scam.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'd point out to you that to get VAT registration in the UK the company, directors and their bank account have to go through some very tight security and identity checks.


sorry op but this is bulshit. anyone who are making more than few quid a year can jump on vat and registration  is not difficult at all.
As stated before in forum Ltd company these days means nothing.  just limited liability for you. personal I can chase your person to recover lost money but who will care to put more money upfront to chase you in case something will go wrong?

pre order are nonsense from definition . people are tired paying for non existence gear. basically you don't want to go to bank, put your house as security for large loan and make prototype this way.
once prototype will exist comeback here show it's working and ask for btc. This field is full of scams and trust me you will get bold quickly when people will grill you over few inconsistency.

Interesting post. I don't have a house worth anywhere near $400k let alone $4M, so asking a bank to take it as security isn't an option. If anyone did have the money to make their own asic without outside help, then I sincerely doubt they'd be posting on here looking for sales, they'd be mining away with them. Most of todays miners made their money through pre-orders, so I'd have to disagree with much of what you say. At the end of the day no one forces anyone to pre order anything, it's up to the individual to make the choice.

maybe as individual you haven't got 4m to put upfront. but as a team easy you can secure loan. look for bigger investors instead asking small people to hand over you btc for wages, and who knows what else.  one more thing: when newbie start answering by "we not here to scam anyone..." this smells even more fishy.

again I found you mention something g which is wrong. not most if the company's made a sics from pre orders
it was like that when BFL and other scams was there. This days we have bitmain...never asked for btc to build units, spoondolis...again not even penny to show working units. only wannabe asking for pre orders this days
 and one more thing. In btc world once you will have working unit will become obsolete very soon .you will not be different than others. You will mine with gear like crazy and when it will become useless you will flush this on buyers. as I said you not he first one and not he last one who will have difficulty to convince typical miner like me.

good luck though

Thanks for your good wishes. Hopefully we'll be given the opportunity to prove that we can deliver what we say. The only other thing I'd say is that we have designed our systems with obsolecense in mind, that's why they're modular.
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If you'd read the text then you would have clearly seen two names mentioned. You can also see the Indiegogo page and who's leading the project, so I suspect you may ave simply skimmed over it.
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Now, if you really think that we're going to present detailed CV's to a poster on a forum that hides behind a username, then that's simply not going to happen, If you want an engineering or financial discussion, then we'll gladly have one.

You don't really think we are going to trust millions of dollars to a "marketing professional" and "Technical Manager" right?

You don't need to present a detailed CV to give us a name of your HW/FW/SW engineer and what experience they have.

Also your claims sound like BS. I suppose you don't have a shred of evidence to support them?
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First things first though – here’s what you really need to know about the project:

The Headlines

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-   This is a pre-order project, there are staged payment options

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Pre-Order. I'm out.

Ok, but thanks for your interest anyway. If we do get funded and get our systems built don't be shy in coming to us for your future mining requirements.
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...

First things first though – here’s what you really need to know about the project:

The Headlines

-   ...
-   This is a pre-order project, there are staged payment options

...

Pre-Order. I'm out.
legendary
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Looks like a scam.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'd point out to you that to get VAT registration in the UK the company, directors and their bank account have to go through some very tight security and identity checks.


sorry op but this is bulshit. anyone who are making more than few quid a year can jump on vat and registration  is not difficult at all.
As stated before in forum Ltd company these days means nothing.  just limited liability for you. personal I can chase your person to recover lost money but who will care to put more money upfront to chase you in case something will go wrong?

pre order are nonsense from definition . people are tired paying for non existence gear. basically you don't want to go to bank, put your house as security for large loan and make prototype this way.
once prototype will exist comeback here show it's working and ask for btc. This field is full of scams and trust me you will get bold quickly when people will grill you over few inconsistency.

Interesting post. I don't have a house worth anywhere near $400k let alone $4M, so asking a bank to take it as security isn't an option. If anyone did have the money to make their own asic without outside help, then I sincerely doubt they'd be posting on here looking for sales, they'd be mining away with them. Most of todays miners made their money through pre-orders, so I'd have to disagree with much of what you say. At the end of the day no one forces anyone to pre order anything, it's up to the individual to make the choice.

maybe as individual you haven't got 4m to put upfront. but as a team easy you can secure loan. look for bigger investors instead asking small people to hand over you btc for wages, and who knows what else.  one more thing: when newbie start answering by "we not here to scam anyone..." this smells even more fishy.

again I found you mention something g which is wrong. not most if the company's made a sics from pre orders
it was like that when BFL and other scams was there. This days we have bitmain...never asked for btc to build units, spoondolis...again not even penny to show working units. only wannabe asking for pre orders this days
 and one more thing. In btc world once you will have working unit will become obsolete very soon .you will not be different than others. You will mine with gear like crazy and when it will become useless you will flush this on buyers. as I said you not he first one and not he last one who will have difficulty to convince typical miner like me.

good luck though
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Is this the next big scam company after Black Arrow?

Who's Black Arrow?

You are a "british" company (LTD) and don't know your "british" competitors like Black Arrow LTD?

I was only kidding - but LTD companies come from many jurisdictions apart from the UK. Old colonial habits die hard.
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Looks like a scam.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'd point out to you that to get VAT registration in the UK the company, directors and their bank account have to go through some very tight security and identity checks.


sorry op but this is bulshit. anyone who are making more than few quid a year can jump on vat and registration  is not difficult at all.
As stated before in forum Ltd company these days means nothing.  just limited liability for you. personal I can chase your person to recover lost money but who will care to put more money upfront to chase you in case something will go wrong?

pre order are nonsense from definition . people are tired paying for non existence gear. basically you don't want to go to bank, put your house as security for large loan and make prototype this way.
once prototype will exist comeback here show it's working and ask for btc. This field is full of scams and trust me you will get bold quickly when people will grill you over few inconsistency.

Interesting post. I don't have a house worth anywhere near $400k let alone $4M, so asking a bank to take it as security isn't an option. If anyone did have the money to make their own asic without outside help, then I sincerely doubt they'd be posting on here looking for sales, they'd be mining away with them. Most of todays miners made their money through pre-orders, so I'd have to disagree with much of what you say. At the end of the day no one forces anyone to pre order anything, it's up to the individual to make the choice.
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Is this the next big scam company after Black Arrow?

Who's Black Arrow?

You are a "british" company (LTD) and don't know your "british" competitors like Black Arrow LTD?
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Is this the next big scam company after Black Arrow?

Who's Black Arrow? Only kidding. No, we're not out to scam anyone. Hope you enjoyed reading our proposal though.
legendary
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Looks like a scam.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'd point out to you that to get VAT registration in the UK the company, directors and their bank account have to go through some very tight security and identity checks.


sorry op but this is bulshit. anyone who are making more than few quid a year can jump on vat and registration  is not difficult at all.
As stated before in forum Ltd company these days means nothing.  just limited liability for you. personal I can chase your person to recover lost money but who will care to put more money upfront to chase you in case something will go wrong?

pre order are nonsense from definition . people are tired paying for non existence gear. basically you don't want to go to bank, put your house as security for large loan and make prototype this way.
once prototype will exist comeback here show it's working and ask for btc. This field is full of scams and trust me you will get bold quickly when people will grill you over few inconsistency.
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Nice document.

Thanks. Hope you enjoyed reading it, it was a lot longer than originally planned but as they say, the devil is in the detail.
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Thanks for your comments, and no offense taken. The reason we aren't going down alternative routes is that VC companies aren't too keen on financing asic mining project for the public to make money from them - they want to keep them in house to mine themselves, and that's not our ethos. The amount of money we need to even get to chip prototypes is simply way more than all our combined resources and then some, so this seems like a logic route.

We will never comment on how other companies conducted their business. None of us were BFL customers so have no knowledge of the quality of their service or products, but there is no argument that their products did (eventually) make a lot of people an awful lot of money. That's no excuse for poor service, but it is fact and we like dealing in facts.

I disagree with your opinion that a VAT number means nothing, but you're entitled to it like everyone else. How you enjoyed reading out pitch.

0.3W/GH at system level from a 40nm chip is indeed very nice. What is the power consumption at chip level?

It comes in at about 0.17-0.18 Joules/GH running at spec'd voltage of 0.85V. You can get it down lower, but the internal delays go way up and so the clock speed has to come down. It also gets more difficult to predict timing.
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Is this the next big scam company after Black Arrow?
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Nice document. Loved to hear more and discuss your plans.
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Looks like a scam.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'd point out to you that to get VAT registration in the UK the company, directors and their bank account have to go through some very tight security and identity checks.

Have you actually read all the text and FAQ's? Even if you still think we're not on the level then at least you might enjoy reading the technical content and our comments on how we think mining will develop. If you think we're wrong, then please feel free to share your opinions.

Yes I read the text. It all looks like bold claims with no evidence.

Here's a few simple questions for you:

Who does your company consist of? You are asking for millions of dollars in funding yet you don't even give us any names? It's nice you have some fancy registration but so did danny brewster.

What experience does your company/employees have? Proof would be nice.

Why does your website look like it was designed by someone who just learned how to use html/mspaint?

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BLUNTLY:  If it’s in stock, it’s obsolete or will be shortly!

Anyone who has been in the bitcoin mining world for more than a few days knows this is simply not true.

If you'd read the text then you would have clearly seen two names mentioned. You can also see the Indiegogo page and who's leading the project, so I suspect you may ave simply skimmed over it.
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Now, if you really think that we're going to present detailed CV's to a poster on a forum that hides behind a username, then that's simply not going to happen, If you want an engineering or financial discussion, then we'll gladly have one.
legendary
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Thanks for your comments, and no offense taken. The reason we aren't going down alternative routes is that VC companies aren't too keen on financing asic mining project for the public to make money from them - they want to keep them in house to mine themselves, and that's not our ethos. The amount of money we need to even get to chip prototypes is simply way more than all our combined resources and then some, so this seems like a logic route.

We will never comment on how other companies conducted their business. None of us were BFL customers so have no knowledge of the quality of their service or products, but there is no argument that their products did (eventually) make a lot of people an awful lot of money. That's no excuse for poor service, but it is fact and we like dealing in facts.

I disagree with your opinion that a VAT number means nothing, but you're entitled to it like everyone else. How you enjoyed reading out pitch.

0.3W/GH at system level from a 40nm chip is indeed very nice. What is the power consumption at chip level?
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Having a VAT registration means nothing. BFL is operating for over 2 years and they scammed A LOT OF PEOPLE and they are still in business. Taking the legal way against a company in the Bitcoin field needs a lot of time and the authorities which aren't familiar with how bitcoin works aren't helping the customers. HashFast failed too and nobody is in jail, AMT failed and nobody is in jail. So your VAT means 0.

Which they most definitely deserve.  Those HashFail and AMT pricks need a nice stint in the big house for the shit they pulled.

Anyways, best of luck Novello.  $4m is a lot of friggin' money.

Thanks for your good wishes. It is a lot of money, but unfortunately that's what's needed to get the chips and systems built!
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