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September 04, 2017, 10:08:36 PM
We r having lots of assumptions and opinions abt the future of MCO .
Best thing to do now is to hold n wait for weeks

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September 04, 2017, 09:46:49 PM
NEW CHINA ICO LAWS = NO EFFECT ON MONACO !!!

MCO : FULL SPEED AHEAD !!!

Key posts made over on the Monaco Slack channel:

https://i.imgur.com/GgSM4Fn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ei8sATv.jpg

Poor, poor TenX.  Very Sad for them.


Quick bump in case anyone not yet seen...gla
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September 04, 2017, 09:33:53 PM
We r having lots of assumptions and opinions abt the future of MCO .
Best thing to do now is to hold n wait for weeks

Welcome to BitcoinTalk forum. I hope you enjoy your stay here.

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September 04, 2017, 09:10:53 PM
We r having lots of assumptions and opinions abt the future of MCO .
Best thing to do now is to hold n wait for weeks
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September 04, 2017, 08:36:16 PM
Bottom line , 1 MCO = 10 usd
                   1  PAY  =  3 usd

... thats exactly why there are so many people losing money in this market.

1. Look at the number of tokens for each project.
2. Look at the current token distribution for both projects.
3. Look at the marketing philosophy of both projects.

4. Reconsider the meaning behind the token price and how its totally uncorrelated to the actual achievements of both projects.

At the moment it is nonsense to compare both companies by token price, thats absolutelly no indicator for the future. Everything is and will be just speculation and hope in the next few days.


I agree with you, but only 1/10 person gets this here.
The time bomb for MCO (and XRP as well btw) is the increase of supply to come (x2)

If people get this, good for them. If not... Let them lose money.

For some to win, others have to lose sometimes (at least on a closed market)

Yea, but not if market gets constant increase in funds like it does and constant increase of new users like it does.

Price goes down but it will come up purely from the fact that too many new funds are coming in constantly 24/7.

True. It depends on how fast the tokens will be issued: the bomb could be defused "sort of" if the market cap increases faster. (Cards usage = more business)

Bottom line: Keep in mind the future amount of tokens in the calculation for the unitary token.
Marketcap: make your calculations:

my personal feeling is $400MM -> at 20M tokens is $20 per token.


Well that, plus bitcoin value goes up therefore coin value goes up during the same exchange rate between coin and bitcoin.

Big question...
I believed in this math before, but I realize that more and more people count in USD and appraise tokens in USD.
It becomes the market norm imho.

Same for ETH: people believe that a cheaper ETH would lead to cheaper ICOs, but in general crypto-companies target a $20MM to $40MM market cap (except scams like Tezos or Eos) and estimate their token price in ETH based on that: if ETH price drops they will ask for more ETH per token.

I manage my portfolio in BTC price, hence my only question when I buy a coin, is if it gonna raise faster than BTC. Tough to answer...


Well no, Bittrex is American therefore USD, Kraken is euro, OkCoin China. Etc. Think of it like Wall Street, New York, etc...

Company hosts ICO, collects ETH and sells it off, ETH goes back into the market.

You are correct. Bitcoin can go up and ETH can go down, or wise versa. It will adjust the markets and people will also buy or sell purely on this.
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September 04, 2017, 08:19:14 PM
Bottom line , 1 MCO = 10 usd
                   1  PAY  =  3 usd

... thats exactly why there are so many people losing money in this market.

1. Look at the number of tokens for each project.
2. Look at the current token distribution for both projects.
3. Look at the marketing philosophy of both projects.

4. Reconsider the meaning behind the token price and how its totally uncorrelated to the actual achievements of both projects.

At the moment it is nonsense to compare both companies by token price, thats absolutelly no indicator for the future. Everything is and will be just speculation and hope in the next few days.


I agree with you, but only 1/10 person gets this here.
The time bomb for MCO (and XRP as well btw) is the increase of supply to come (x2)

If people get this, good for them. If not... Let them lose money.

For some to win, others have to lose sometimes (at least on a closed market)

Yea, but not if market gets constant increase in funds like it does and constant increase of new users like it does.

Price goes down but it will come up purely from the fact that too many new funds are coming in constantly 24/7.

True. It depends on how fast the tokens will be issued: the bomb could be defused "sort of" if the market cap increases faster. (Cards usage = more business)

Bottom line: Keep in mind the future amount of tokens in the calculation for the unitary token.
Marketcap: make your calculations:

my personal feeling is $400MM -> at 20M tokens is $20 per token.


Well that, plus bitcoin value goes up therefore coin value goes up during the same exchange rate between coin and bitcoin.

Big question...
I believed in this math before, but I realize that more and more people count in USD and appraise tokens in USD.
It becomes the market norm imho.

Same for ETH: people believe that a cheaper ETH would lead to cheaper ICOs, but in general crypto-companies target a $20MM to $40MM market cap (except scams like Tezos or Eos) and estimate their token price in ETH based on that: if ETH price drops they will ask for more ETH per token.

I manage my portfolio in BTC price, hence my only question when I buy a coin, is if it gonna raise faster than BTC. Tough to answer...
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September 04, 2017, 08:14:14 PM
Bottom line , 1 MCO = 10 usd
                   1  PAY  =  3 usd

... thats exactly why there are so many people losing money in this market.

1. Look at the number of tokens for each project.
2. Look at the current token distribution for both projects.
3. Look at the marketing philosophy of both projects.

4. Reconsider the meaning behind the token price and how its totally uncorrelated to the actual achievements of both projects.

At the moment it is nonsense to compare both companies by token price, thats absolutelly no indicator for the future. Everything is and will be just speculation and hope in the next few days.


I agree with you, but only 1/10 person gets this here.
The time bomb for MCO (and XRP as well btw) is the increase of supply to come (x2)

If people get this, good for them. If not... Let them lose money.

For some to win, others have to lose sometimes (at least on a closed market)

Yea, but not if market gets constant increase in funds like it does and constant increase of new users like it does.

Price goes down but it will come up purely from the fact that too many new funds are coming in constantly 24/7.

True. It depends on how fast the tokens will be issued: the bomb could be defused "sort of" if the market cap increases faster. (Cards usage = more business)

Bottom line: Keep in mind the future amount of tokens in the calculation for the unitary token.
Marketcap: make your calculations:

my personal feeling is $400MM -> at 20M tokens is $20 per token.


Well that, plus bitcoin value goes up therefore coin value goes up during the same exchange rate between coin and bitcoin.
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Activity: 336
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September 04, 2017, 08:12:17 PM
Bottom line , 1 MCO = 10 usd
                   1  PAY  =  3 usd

... thats exactly why there are so many people losing money in this market.

1. Look at the number of tokens for each project.
2. Look at the current token distribution for both projects.
3. Look at the marketing philosophy of both projects.

4. Reconsider the meaning behind the token price and how its totally uncorrelated to the actual achievements of both projects.

At the moment it is nonsense to compare both companies by token price, thats absolutelly no indicator for the future. Everything is and will be just speculation and hope in the next few days.


I agree with you, but only 1/10 person gets this here.
The time bomb for MCO (and XRP as well btw) is the increase of supply to come (x2)

If people get this, good for them. If not... Let them lose money.

For some to win, others have to lose sometimes (at least on a closed market)

Yea, but not if market gets constant increase in funds like it does and constant increase of new users like it does.

Price goes down but it will come up purely from the fact that too many new funds are coming in constantly 24/7.

True. It depends on how fast the tokens will be issued: the bomb could be defused "sort of" if the market cap increases faster. (Cards usage = more business)

Bottom line: Keep in mind the future amount of tokens in the calculation for the unitary token.
Marketcap: make your calculations:

my personal feeling is $400MM -> at 20M tokens is $20 per token.
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Activity: 112
Merit: 10
September 04, 2017, 08:08:38 PM
Bottom line , 1 MCO = 10 usd
                   1  PAY  =  3 usd

... thats exactly why there are so many people losing money in this market.

1. Look at the number of tokens for each project.
2. Look at the current token distribution for both projects.
3. Look at the marketing philosophy of both projects.

4. Reconsider the meaning behind the token price and how its totally uncorrelated to the actual achievements of both projects.

At the moment it is nonsense to compare both companies by token price, thats absolutelly no indicator for the future. Everything is and will be just speculation and hope in the next few days.


I agree with you, but only 1/10 person gets this here.
The time bomb for MCO (and XRP as well btw) is the increase of supply to come (x2)

If people get this, good for them. If not... Let them lose money.

For some to win, others have to lose sometimes (at least on a closed market)

Yea, but not if market gets constant increase in funds like it does and constant increase of new users like it does.

Price goes down but it will come up purely from the fact that too many new funds are coming in constantly 24/7.
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Activity: 336
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September 04, 2017, 08:05:00 PM
Bottom line , 1 MCO = 10 usd
                   1  PAY  =  3 usd

... thats exactly why there are so many people losing money in this market.

1. Look at the number of tokens for each project.
2. Look at the current token distribution for both projects.
3. Look at the marketing philosophy of both projects.

4. Reconsider the meaning behind the token price and how its totally uncorrelated to the actual achievements of both projects.

At the moment it is nonsense to compare both companies by token price, thats absolutelly no indicator for the future. Everything is and will be just speculation and hope in the next few days.


I agree with you, but only 1/10 person gets this here.
The time bomb for MCO (and XRP as well btw) is the increase of supply to come (x2)

If people get this, good for them. If not... Let them lose money.

For some to win, others have to lose sometimes (at least on a closed market)
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September 04, 2017, 08:00:58 PM
Guys, what are you all kids or something? Monaco is working on banking platform that utilizes visa for acceptance and usability. They could have obviously outsourced this and used a 3rd party.

It will happen one way or the other.

But I bet Monaco will be sold short time after.  Cheesy
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September 04, 2017, 07:51:01 PM
This is getting obvious
Our TenX supporter, Distorta is getting panic over MCO's upcoming VISA approval
If this happens, TenX will be fucked up
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September 04, 2017, 07:40:51 PM
I don't have time tomorrow but if anyone from this board wants to call Visa and talk to an executive to verify Monaco's involvement.

It's not impossible.
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September 04, 2017, 07:34:57 PM
I am here only to increase my BTC number so losing money its not what i am doing right now when i decided to keep them in mco , i got them at 4 usd  , sold at 23 usd , got x2 back at 11 usd (doubled my coin number) , my other option was to keep them in TenX and start crying on other coins threads because PAY cannot jump over 4 usd Smiley

At the end of the day what matters is how much BTC you have in your wallet (keeping them in MCO was a smart move for me until now ) Good luck with yours but keep in mind that TenX was listed on ICOage and if they will have to refound the ICO it will drop another 1 usd

I see only one person crying here because he realized what nonsense he was talking about. And whats that "I keep mine, you keep yours" attitude, didn't know someone had to choose one side for trading. I made enough profit in the last hype train of MCO and used that profit to by in at 0,0020 so i am still in. Just because i don't have as much trust in MCO as i have in TenX (which could change over time) doesn't mean its not good for speculation.

Speculate about something when you have your facts right .

"TenX app in the store.
If you've used the TenX app, it has suggestions of being able to pay people with the app, it has suggestions of NFC, but really all you can do is order the TenX card - which by the way has no date attached to it as to when you might get it. They will quite happily take your $15 though."
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September 04, 2017, 07:27:29 PM
what Cryptocurrencys are listen at the moment on Monaco card?
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September 04, 2017, 07:23:22 PM
I am here only to increase my BTC number so losing money its not what i am doing right now when i decided to keep them in mco , i got them at 4 usd  , sold at 23 usd , got x2 back at 11 usd (doubled my coin number) , my other option was to keep them in TenX and start crying on other coins threads because PAY cannot jump over 4 usd Smiley

At the end of the day what matters is how much BTC you have in your wallet (keeping them in MCO was a smart move for me until now ) Good luck with yours but keep in mind that TenX was listed on ICOage and if they will have to refound the ICO it will drop another 1 usd

I see only one person crying here because he realized what nonsense he was talking about. And whats that "I keep mine, you keep yours" attitude, didn't know someone had to choose one side for trading. I made enough profit in the last hype train of MCO and used that profit to by in at 0,0020 so i am still in. Just because i don't have as much trust in MCO as i have in TenX (which could change over time) doesn't mean its not good for speculation.
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September 04, 2017, 07:06:43 PM
Bottom line , 1 MCO = 10 usd
                   1  PAY  =  3 usd

... thats exactly why there are so many people losing money in this market.

1. Look at the number of tokens for each project.
2. Look at the current token distribution for both projects.
3. Look at the marketing philosophy of both projects.

4. Reconsider the meaning behind the token price and how its totally uncorrelated to the actual achievements of both projects.

At the moment it is nonsense to compare both companies by token price, thats absolutelly no indicator for the future. Everything is and will be just speculation and hope in the next few days.

I am here only to increase my BTC number so losing money its not what i am doing right now when i decided to keep them in mco , i got them at 4 usd  , sold at 23 usd , got x2 back at 11 usd (doubled my coin number) , my other option was to keep them in TenX and start crying on other coins threads because PAY cannot jump over 4 usd Smiley

At the end of the day what matters is how much BTC you have in your wallet (keeping them in MCO was a smart move for me until now ) Good luck with yours but keep in mind that TenX was listed on ICOage and if they will have to refound the ICO it will drop another 1 usd
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September 04, 2017, 06:45:00 PM
Bottom line , 1 MCO = 10 usd
                   1  PAY  =  3 usd

... thats exactly why there are so many people losing money in this market.

1. Look at the number of tokens for each project.
2. Look at the current token distribution for both projects.
3. Look at the marketing philosophy of both projects.

4. Reconsider the meaning behind the token price and how its totally uncorrelated to the actual achievements of both projects.

At the moment it is nonsense to compare both companies by token price, thats absolutelly no indicator for the future. Everything is and will be just speculation and hope in the next few days.

I agree, maybe you should look at market caps. Better metric considering tenx is worth 309mn and monaco 102mn. If Monaco deliver, which I think they will, then it could easily be worth at least as much as tenx. In price this is around 30usd per MCO.
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September 04, 2017, 06:44:05 PM
haha he says MCO pure speculation them working on getting VISA (as reported by CEO) and then he go on and says that TenX is WORKING ON getting banking license. Pure trolling, ignore him

Well its also on their roadmap to reduce costs for their customers in the long term.
Also they are not affected by the current ICO affair.

At least people in here should get their facts straight. I am currently also holding MCO but i think its ridiculous how people in this thread think MCO is superior just by comparing the token price... god folks use your brains.

Right, these people create a forum to discuss MCO and when their echo chamber mentality is broken they create a bunch of lies because they are over invested in a project that has not created a real usable product yet. I hope MCO works out for you guys for your sake. But to try to trick new investors into thinking MCO is the best option over TenX right now is moronic. ICOAGE listed TenX from 2017/6/24 21:00:00 - 2017/6/24  it says so on that link. Furthermore, the china government is only enforcing refunds to CURRENT ICO SCAMS AND and have halted all NEW ICOS. TenX already went public and established a real commodity, so they are not considered a ICO. If anything MCO is a ICO right now. USE YOUR HEADS.


I can understand your hype when you have a card in your pocket , but paying for gas as you said above with a + 2.30 eur fee + a 10 usd anual fee for the card its not a great deal , i respect the ideea behind TenX , but it was s rushed project that got stuck in fees and its reflected in the market price (not able to jump over 4 usd )
You said : "TenX is working on getting their own banking liscense to cut out the middleaman and have already strarted the process."  - What i understand from what you said is that they are trying to do what MCO is doing now , get the VISA deal.

Bottom line , 1 MCO = 10 usd
                   1  PAY  =  3 usd

Mark my words , if they manage to make the deal , 1 MCO will be 50-100 usd until the end of the year

Where is everyone coming up with this transaction fee. There are no fees unless you withdrawl from a ATM or if you spend under $1000 a year. Dude. Its so obvious right now. The prices are speculative but at least TenX has a working product they continue to improve upon based on customer interactions everyday. MCO is behind.
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September 04, 2017, 06:35:29 PM
Bottom line , 1 MCO = 10 usd
                   1  PAY  =  3 usd

... thats exactly why there are so many people losing money in this market.

1. Look at the number of tokens for each project.
2. Look at the current token distribution for both projects.
3. Look at the marketing philosophy of both projects.

4. Reconsider the meaning behind the token price and how its totally uncorrelated to the actual achievements of both projects.

At the moment it is nonsense to compare both companies by token price, thats absolutelly no indicator for the future. Everything is and will be just speculation and hope in the next few days.
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