Topic: nullc reddit account suspended 2/23/17 What's the story? - page 3. (Read 16181 times)
you troublemaker you.
...because I posted a commit message
Hmm, I know this is your favorite topic, but can you please agree on the minor point that your original comment with gavin's email was not in the form of a commit message, even if it was only briefly in this original form before being edited?
The evidence is still here: https://ceddit.com/r/btc/comments/5g3weu/blockstreams_creator_changes_bitcoin_network/
Also since it was, for however brief a time, not in the form of a commit message, you may not want to rely on that so forcefully as somehow validating that the comment should be allowed. Sorry if I can't let that go.
To help convince you I'm acting in good faith here, look at this little discussion with BitcoinXio on the most recent suspension where I both confronted him on his lame accusations and revealed that he doesn't know that the report button on reddit comments can alert reddit admins directly. Which by the way might have been what happened. Might not have been rbtc mods, but I can't tell either way.
It is possible that there is vote manipulation going on at r/btc, I might even describe it as probable based on what I have seen. I would point out that the apparent vote manipulation is fairly obvious, and not a very good job is being done to cover it up.
I would be quick to point out that the people behind the vote manipulation are not necessarily people who desire to have larger blocks. It would be very well possible that those behind this vote manipulation are trying to discredit those who support large blocks by being very transparent about the vote manipulation. The only thing I can conclusively say is that voting scores are not a reliable indicator on reddit -- this includes sorting comments by "best" instead of by "top".
u/nullc's judgment is clearly not that great as evidenced by how easily he was gamed. It is too bad that commit keys are revoked only for political reasons and not for "legitimate business"/"legitimate security" reasons....
We've seen evidence of voting manipulation and it was generally against small blockers (generally is a generous word here). I would be quick to point out that the people behind the vote manipulation are not necessarily people who desire to have larger blocks. It would be very well possible that those behind this vote manipulation are trying to discredit those who support large blocks by being very transparent about the vote manipulation. The only thing I can conclusively say is that voting scores are not a reliable indicator on reddit -- this includes sorting comments by "best" instead of by "top".
u/nullc's judgment is clearly not that great as evidenced by how easily he was gamed. It is too bad that commit keys are revoked only for political reasons and not for "legitimate business"/"legitimate security" reasons....
As I understand this is another attempt to undermine (such a good word) the system: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-February/013643.html
I might not read it well, but too me it says "consensus for change is difficult and we need to make it easier."
Has anyone dove into the likelihood that the "big financial services" that are the clients of companies reportedly gaming Reddit are behind most of the shill accounts making up /r/btc?
It is possible that there is vote manipulation going on at r/btc, I might even describe it as probable based on what I have seen. I would point out that the apparent vote manipulation is fairly obvious, and not a very good job is being done to cover it up. I would be quick to point out that the people behind the vote manipulation are not necessarily people who desire to have larger blocks. It would be very well possible that those behind this vote manipulation are trying to discredit those who support large blocks by being very transparent about the vote manipulation. The only thing I can conclusively say is that voting scores are not a reliable indicator on reddit -- this includes sorting comments by "best" instead of by "top".
u/nullc's judgment is clearly not that great as evidenced by how easily he was gamed. It is too bad that commit keys are revoked only for political reasons and not for "legitimate business"/"legitimate security" reasons....
Guys we need to gear up and finish the next version of Bitcointalk. Reddit, slack or whatever are private companies which can be handled by governments really well. Don't try to change them, make Bitcointalk great again and any sucker will fall behind it 
Akasha on the Ethereum network. Check it out.
I'm more OK with the nullc ban than I thought I'd be. Let them stew in ignorant rage; Conde Naste doesn't deserve your free content.
Its a serious issue imo.
No intent to (unfairly/unduly 
) smear you, but I haven't seen definitive proof your first suspension was for Gavin's email and not harassing Frap.doc (or both).
Would you like me to post screenshots of the admin's comments? (I'd prefer to to edit out their account name so no one harasses them; or only share it with you privately)) smear you, but I haven't seen definitive proof your first suspension was for Gavin's email and not harassing Frap.doc (or both).Quote
BTW, the post at https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5g3weu/blockstreams_creator_changes_bitcoin_network/dap9jyr/ is gone, just like Every. Single. Post. linking Frap.doc's handle to his true name.
Had nothing to do with frapp, the post was harassing me by one of the zillion and one rbtc harassers. I think that one might have been go bitcoin but I'm not sure. In any case, frapp's name nor pseudonym were not mentioned there.I'll take your word about the admin comments.
It just seemed ambiguous as to whether your initial ban was exclusively for the singular Gavin email post or whether that was the last straw given the long history of Frap.doc controversies (he has his own filter, lawl) context.
I'm more OK with the nullc ban than I thought I'd be. Let them stew in ignorant rage; Conde Naste doesn't deserve your free content.
The Grand Schism will be decided at the protocol and socioeconomic levels, not on the field of subreddit drama.
Now you have more time to out-develop the hell out of BU by making Core even more of a rapidly moving target.
Keep piling on great new features (esp. ones invaluable for miners) faster than BU can copy (and perhaps break) them.
Go Core go!
Has anyone dove into the likelihood that the "big financial services" that are the clients of companies reportedly gaming Reddit are behind most of the shill accounts making up /r/btc? They were using accounts that only had a few days/weeks of life till theymos started revealing it. I had a Reddit account years ago, but the admins deleted it after about four years of regular activity. I never got an explanation as to why, it honestly could have been for anything. I mostly provided links about governments and big banks and followed a regional subreddit and presidential candidate that I liked. I then watched a guy named "-moose-" post links similarly to how I did for a number of years in a wide range of threads till his account went mysteriously silent a little over a year ago.
If someone was aspiring to, I'd like to see something along the lines of what is discussed from this hackernews thread. A social media site where anyone can read, anyone can post, but you have to be invited first might be a good way to fix the gaming. Holding the users themselves accountable for the actions of those they invite makes sense without compromising on relative anonymity.
If someone was aspiring to, I'd like to see something along the lines of what is discussed from this hackernews thread. A social media site where anyone can read, anyone can post, but you have to be invited first might be a good way to fix the gaming. Holding the users themselves accountable for the actions of those they invite makes sense without compromising on relative anonymity.
No intent to (unfairly/unduly ) smear you, but I haven't seen definitive proof your first suspension was for Gavin's email and not harassing Frap.doc (or both).
Would you like me to post screenshots of the admin's comments? (I'd prefer to to edit out their account name so no one harasses them; or only share it with you privately)) smear you, but I haven't seen definitive proof your first suspension was for Gavin's email and not harassing Frap.doc (or both).Quote
BTW, the post at https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5g3weu/blockstreams_creator_changes_bitcoin_network/dap9jyr/ is gone, just like Every. Single. Post. linking Frap.doc's handle to his true name.
Had nothing to do with frapp, the post was harassing me by one of the zillion and one rbtc harassers. I think that one might have been go bitcoin but I'm not sure. In any case, frapp's name nor pseudonym were not mentioned there.http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Chaos-Complexity/dialogue.pdf
No intent to (unfairly/unduly ) smear you, but I haven't seen definitive proof your first suspension was for Gavin's email and not harassing Frap.doc (or both).
Would you like me to post screenshots of the admin's comments? (I'd prefer to to edit out their account name so no one harasses them; or only share it with you privately)) smear you, but I haven't seen definitive proof your first suspension was for Gavin's email and not harassing Frap.doc (or both).Quote
BTW, the post at https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5g3weu/blockstreams_creator_changes_bitcoin_network/dap9jyr/ is gone, just like Every. Single. Post. linking Frap.doc's handle to his true name.
Had nothing to do with frapp, the post was harassing me by one of the zillion and one rbtc harassers. I think that one might have been go bitcoin but I'm not sure. In any case, frapp's name nor pseudonym were not mentioned there. 
Guys we need to gear up and finish the next version of Bitcointalk. Reddit, slack or whatever are private companies which can be handled by governments really well. Don't try to change them, make Bitcointalk great again and any sucker will fall behind it
Yes! The publicly owned bitcointalk will give us the freedom of speech we need. /s
Reddit is a giant trollbox and arguing with trolls is a waste of time. Core devs shouldn't have to deal with this. Forget Reddit even exists and focus on making progress.
Guys we need to gear up and finish the next version of Bitcointalk. Reddit, slack or whatever are private companies which can be handled by governments really well. Don't try to change them, make Bitcointalk great again and any sucker will fall behind it
Damn, this shi.. is really getting overhand... Anyone knows if we can do something against this permaban?
The strategy gmax and r/bitcoin mods, general core supporters etc., plays into the hands of the ver brigade and gives them the advantage. When gmax and the rest face the truth of this then we can update our strategy. When they refuse to face or admit this then there is no hope for such change.Its the 2nd time they have done this and the reddit admins clearly have problems understanding the truth.
Now we have two of the staunchest defenders of truth removed from not only r/btc, but also /rbitcoin.
Damn, this shi.. is really getting overhand... Anyone knows if we can do something against this permaban?
That sucks, don't let it get you down. Too much drama on reddit anyway. Nerd rage and misinformation are rampant there and sarcasm is often like a foreign concept in some subreddits.
Gmax, in regard to this silly battle, you once wrote me to say that this "awkward time will soon pass" (loose quote), are you willing to consider that you underestimated that division? It's not really passing, at least I suspect no where near as fast as you believed it would...
will you consider an alternative strategy? You clearly believe that the reddit battle is significant and specifically the block size debate and the pressure r/btc puts on to core....
Will you and the core supporters continue to use the same strategy that clearly isn't working?
~pokertravis
Also how pissed do you think I am that the r/bitcoin mods banned me. I feel like I'm 2nd to you in defending that sub from tomfoolery. I think their mod team is either compromised or incredibly ignorant.
will you consider an alternative strategy? You clearly believe that the reddit battle is significant and specifically the block size debate and the pressure r/btc puts on to core....
Will you and the core supporters continue to use the same strategy that clearly isn't working?
~pokertravis
Also how pissed do you think I am that the r/bitcoin mods banned me. I feel like I'm 2nd to you in defending that sub from tomfoolery. I think their mod team is either compromised or incredibly ignorant.
I would preffer to hear the reddit admin view as well, you know, knowing the story from just one side is always very biased from my experience.
If you post in this thread again, I'm going to make a fool of you, idiot. Unfortunately, I think Reddit's admins are just being unwittingly made pawns in certain parties fight against the Bitcoin project; similar to how bad actors in that subreddit have gotten Bitcoin developer sites listed on anti-malware bad site lists and Bitcoin Core listed in anti-virus software as malware. The fact of the matter is that their untruthful claims are more effective when there isn't an expert relentlessly disagreeing with them, and if they can use reddit as a pawn to achieve their goals they think that is fair game (as Roger Ver told me specifically when I previously complained about the ethics of him attempting to pressure Reddit's CEO for control over rbitcoin).
I dont doubt your willingness to take the fight at their ground. But, after the last ban, u could be more cautious and use a separate reddit account for that.
I would preffer to hear the reddit admin view as well, you know, knowing the story from just one side is always very biased from my experience.
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