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Anyone mining ETC and converting it to ETH?

ETH diff is now at ATH

Yeah but price is over 600 and the 5700xt or the 3080 are efficient so for now eth is still worth mining.
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Anyone mining ETC and converting it to ETH?

ETH diff is now at ATH
legendary
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Sometimes breakers are just slowly cooking

Yeah if you are just under and there is a small voltage drop say 120 to 110  or 240 to 210 breakers pop.

and when they pop, they are dead...forever, toasted.

my personal solution is increase the breaker amp capacity.

for example, if you are maxed out and breaker keeps popping at 80A increase it to 100A, only do this if you know what you are doing, just don't add more load just because it is "not popping anymore"

my solution is not in the electrical code, codes are there to guide and make things as fool proof as possible. just think about a breaker, it is just a switch (contact points connect and disconnect--> this is the weak point), there is no way it can match the electrical capacity of a solid (no connect and disconnect) wire, good high quality more expensive wires will perform. I have not tested all the breakers and brands but this is from experience.

BTW LOL at ETH mining profits, the 3080's are starting to look cheap hehehehe

well I was just thinking this.

wait i'm not done yet hehe..

----snip----

12A for each extension wires x 8 = 96A, you'll never reach 2500w load for extension wires, why? they have breakers and fuses too (if this fail solder a solid copper) besides two (3x gpus to 4xgpu 3080 rigs) will never reach 2500w. example: 300w per card x 8 = 2400w... my favorite x3 card is 1800w only (I used 300w per card means i added the whole system to make things easier to digest/understand)........this also means you are not going to reach 96A for wire and 100A for main breaker, this also means that 80A breaker will slowly cook and pop from time to time, same thing with those 20A breakers.

300w per card analogy means you can also setup dense gpu rigs, 3080 or 3090 top of the line power hogs hehe

the key is outlet management.

maxing out wires means you are taking responsibility off from the breakers to you, just like you login in an operating system as "admin". so "know your wires"

my drawing is simply the "essence" people can figure out their own wiring scenario from this basic guide/principle.

what i mean by 80A to 100A and 20A to 30A is replacing 80 by 100 and 20 by 30 to max out the wire and not have the trouble of popping and toasting breakers.

electrical code says #4 is 70A and #12 is 20A breaker, LOL of course low quality wires will only do as low as 65A-70A, that's why like i said, it is to make things as fool proof as possible. good quality #4 wire can do 95A.....same thing with the #12

do not do this don't use a high quality #4 and hope it can handle 80 amps on a 100 secondary box.

and don't use 12 gauge on 30 amp breakers. even if it is high quality.


this is not code in usa  so I have to warn you.

codes would be #2 for the 100 amp breaker sub box and  10gauge for 30 amp outlets

I ran a #6 from my main breaker to a 2 circuit sub panel and 10 gauge to 2 outlets.

I used a 50 amp 240 volt breaker in the main box to a pair of 30 amp breakers in the sub panel.

Lastly I attached some high quality 20 mp voltage regulator to each  circuit .

so 50 amp to 2x 30 amp  to 2x 20 amp

yeah it limits my garage to 32amp of 240 on spilt on 2 protected circuits but I am okay with this.

My garage gets really fucking hot if I run 30amp x 240 = 7200 watts of power 24/7/365 unless it is 40f or lower


what I mean by "can do" is "wire rating" not "continuous load", thanks for pointing that out, it can be misleading.

I forgot it was a 70A breaker to 100A change...the breaker was in storage for years so if forgot hehe

https://www.cerrowire.com/products/resources/tables-calculators/ampacity-charts/

see the link there is a 65A to 95A types for #4 wire and 20A to 30A for #12

no worries load will only have 65A-70A max for continuous load.

notice the standard consumer/end user outlet of 15A? and the off the shelves/commodity extension cords with 2500w rating (12A at around 220V)?....that is 80% max load at 20% allowance.

even the extension cords should be used at max load of 1800w - 2000w max for continuous load, 2500w is also just a "rating". notice at 8 outlets of 9.5A load each is 76A (2000w load at 210v-->worse case scenario of voltage drop)...at 1800w per outlet you are safe.

two gpu rigs with 1300w PSU each at around 50% load for maximum efficiency, that's only 1300watts for two rigs, if you run at less efficient then you can pull up to 700watts more for both rigs (1800w-2000w max load for extension cords).

same thing applies at the 95A wire at 80% load is 76A, so 70A is safe  Wink

but then some people think they know what they are doing even if they do not...so if people start asking me questions, the answer: "follow the electrical codes!" LOL

legendary
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Sometimes breakers are just slowly cooking

Yeah if you are just under and there is a small voltage drop say 120 to 110  or 240 to 210 breakers pop.

and when they pop, they are dead...forever, toasted.

my personal solution is increase the breaker amp capacity.

for example, if you are maxed out and breaker keeps popping at 80A increase it to 100A, only do this if you know what you are doing, just don't add more load just because it is "not popping anymore"

my solution is not in the electrical code, codes are there to guide and make things as fool proof as possible. just think about a breaker, it is just a switch (contact points connect and disconnect--> this is the weak point), there is no way it can match the electrical capacity of a solid (no connect and disconnect) wire, good high quality more expensive wires will perform. I have not tested all the breakers and brands but this is from experience.

BTW LOL at ETH mining profits, the 3080's are starting to look cheap hehehehe

well I was just thinking this.

wait i'm not done yet hehe..



12A for each extension wires x 8 = 96A, you'll never reach 2500w load for extension wires, why? they have breakers and fuses too (if this fail solder a solid copper) besides two (3x gpus to 4xgpu 3080 rigs) will never reach 2500w. example: 300w per card x 8 = 2400w... my favorite x3 card is 1800w only (I used 300w per card means i added the whole system to make things easier to digest/understand)........this also means you are not going to reach 96A for wire and 100A for main breaker, this also means that 80A breaker will slowly cook and pop from time to time, same thing with those 20A breakers.

300w per card analogy means you can also setup dense gpu rigs, 3080 or 3090 top of the line power hogs hehe

the key is outlet management.

maxing out wires means you are taking responsibility off from the breakers to you, just like you login in an operating system as "admin". so "know your wires"

my drawing is simply the "essence" people can figure out their own wiring scenario from this basic guide/principle.

what i mean by 80A to 100A and 20A to 30A is replacing 80 by 100 and 20 by 30 to max out the wire and not have the trouble of popping and toasting breakers.

electrical code says #4 is 70A and #12 is 20A breaker, LOL of course low quality wires will only do as low as 65A-70A, that's why like i said, it is to make things as fool proof as possible. good quality #4 wire can do 95A.....same thing with the #12

do not do this don't use a high quality #4 and hope it can handle 80 amps on a 100 secondary box.

and don't use 12 gauge on 30 amp breakers. even if it is high quality.


this is not code in usa  so I have to warn you.

codes would be #2 for the 100 amp breaker sub box and  10gauge for 30 amp outlets

I ran a #6 from my main breaker to a 2 circuit sub panel and 10 gauge to 2 outlets.

I used a 50 amp 240 volt breaker in the main box to a pair of 30 amp breakers in the sub panel.

Lastly I attached some high quality 20 mp voltage regulator to each  circuit .

so 50 amp to 2x 30 amp  to 2x 20 amp

yeah it limits my garage to 32amp of 240 on spilt on 2 protected circuits but I am okay with this.

My garage gets really fucking hot if I run 30amp x 240 = 7200 watts of power 24/7/365 unless it is 40f or lower
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 1061
Sometimes breakers are just slowly cooking

Yeah if you are just under and there is a small voltage drop say 120 to 110  or 240 to 210 breakers pop.

and when they pop, they are dead...forever, toasted.

my personal solution is increase the breaker amp capacity.

for example, if you are maxed out and breaker keeps popping at 80A increase it to 100A, only do this if you know what you are doing, just don't add more load just because it is "not popping anymore"

my solution is not in the electrical code, codes are there to guide and make things as fool proof as possible. just think about a breaker, it is just a switch (contact points connect and disconnect--> this is the weak point), there is no way it can match the electrical capacity of a solid (no connect and disconnect) wire, good high quality more expensive wires will perform. I have not tested all the breakers and brands but this is from experience.

BTW LOL at ETH mining profits, the 3080's are starting to look cheap hehehehe

well I was just thinking this.

wait i'm not done yet hehe..



12A for each extension wires x 8 = 96A, you'll never reach 2500w load for extension wires, why? they have breakers and fuses too (if this fail solder a solid copper) besides two (3x gpus to 4xgpu 3080 rigs) will never reach 2500w. example: 300w per card x 8 = 2400w... my favorite x3 card is 1800w only (I used 300w per card means i added the whole system to make things easier to digest/understand)........this also means you are not going to reach 96A for wire and 100A for main breaker, this also means that 80A breaker will slowly cook and pop from time to time, same thing with those 20A breakers.

300w per card analogy means you can also setup dense gpu rigs, 3080 or 3090 top of the line power hogs hehe

the key is outlet management.

maxing out wires means you are taking responsibility off from the breakers to you, just like you login in an operating system as "admin". so "know your wires"

my drawing is simply the "essence" people can figure out their own wiring scenario from this basic guide/principle.

what i mean by 80A to 100A and 20A to 30A is replacing 80 by 100 and 20 by 30 to max out the wire and not have the trouble of popping and toasting breakers.

electrical code says #4 is 70A and #12 is 20A breaker, LOL of course low quality wires will only do as low as 65A-70A, that's why like i said, it is to make things as fool proof as possible. good quality #4 wire can do 95A.....same thing with the #12
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Wow these cards really have bad memory cooling, as you said geck nothing works to cool it.  But improved results after tweaking a bit.  im happy with it, cant lower core much or crash, higher mem crashes due to temps and gpuz 77w is good, probably 130-140watts wall, I will check. 

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from your screenshot, you could reduce your gpu voltage to 740mV and run the core much lower.
With timing mods, and mem at 1800, core can be as low as 1250 before hashrate starts taking a hit.
It looks like you didn't do any timing mods, so you could run the core at 1150-1200
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ill do that.  thanks.  I was thinking about thermal pads but i'll push the fans hard.
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Its not fast but its cool.  I can up the mem a bit but it crashes.  I can lower the voltage a bit but it crashes.  I can lower core clock but hashrate degrades a lot.  I wonder how many watts, 120v, on 80+ bronze psu 1000GQ, it uses at the wall.  Any guesses before I measure ?  any ideas to improve, this rig is a bit weird.  edit: its the asus 5700 oc evo dual.  I wouldnt say very stable but were 340 in usd equivalent so very cheap to me



your memory temps are causing it to throttle and crash. I have two of these cards and have replaced thermal pads, added pads to back plate, increased  mounting pressure, but nothing works. The only way to make these cards work is to blast the fans (i have mine at 75%) and keep them as far apart as possible.
legendary
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Its not fast but its cool.  I can up the mem a bit but it crashes.  I can lower the voltage a bit but it crashes.  I can lower core clock but hashrate degrades a lot.  I wonder how many watts, 120v, on 80+ bronze psu 1000GQ, it uses at the wall.  Any guesses before I measure ?  any ideas to improve, this rig is a bit weird.  edit: its the asus 5700 oc evo dual.  I wouldnt say very stable but were 340 in usd equivalent so very cheap to me



Those cards were terrible for me.  of 38-40 amd 5000 series cards I only had to return 1 card so far.  asus dual 5700 xt Grin
legendary
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
Its not fast but its cool.  I can up the mem a bit but it crashes.  I can lower the voltage a bit but it crashes.  I can lower core clock but hashrate degrades a lot.  I wonder how many watts, 120v, on 80+ bronze psu 1000GQ, it uses at the wall.  Any guesses before I measure ?  any ideas to improve, this rig is a bit weird.  edit: its the asus 5700 oc evo dual.  I wouldnt say very stable but were 340 in usd equivalent so very cheap to me

legendary
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Crypto taxes are a pain, especially if you are trading BTC pairs like ETHBTC because there is an extra step in calculations that need to be taken.

Atomic swaps are upon us, here is an example of decred to btc pair:

https://dcrdata.decred.org/market?chart=depth&xc=dcrdex&bin=1h

amazing - the dcr dex client is a god sent - for once my DCR miners are turning a profit

Good


Eth is getting better on viabtc

last week it was 0.0241 dollars a mh

it is now 0.0322 dollars a mh

eth itself is up to 545 a coin

ltc is up over 85 a coin

doge has past 0.00342433 a coin

Eth could take off for miners


https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate


we have not reached the old peak of 295.911 th on aug 9th 2018 which is good.

What is happening is the 4gb cards are fading away and being replaced by new gear very much on an equal level.

This could continue for all of 2020 about 40 more days of same diff. So if price drifts to 700 to 800

 1 mh could go to 0.05 dollars

your 50mh cards will do $2.50 easy peasy

I think we have a very solid 40 day window for eth.

 
legendary
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Crypto taxes are a pain, especially if you are trading BTC pairs like ETHBTC because there is an extra step in calculations that need to be taken.

Atomic swaps are upon us, here is an example of decred to btc pair:

https://dcrdata.decred.org/market?chart=depth&xc=dcrdex&bin=1h

amazing - the dcr dex client is a god sent - for once my DCR miners are turning a profit
legendary
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asus dual's are garbage

Back in the early mining days when people mined bitcoin with gpus and mined LTC with GPUs, ASUS was pretty much the highest quality of GPU you could buy. I had some Radeon 7950/7970 and they were ASUS brand and they were very solid built, ran at like 80C for years, and never let me down. Only issue was maybe after 3 years the fans started to go due to the bearings in them. However when I opened up the GPUs, it looked like it was built to military spec.

Then I had some ASUS RX series GPUs and the quality really has gotten down hill. The fans still had issues with bearings but when you open up the GPU, look at the PCB board, it looks poorly made. Clearly lots of cost cutting has been put in ASUS gpus. No idea how their higher end GPUs are but their lower and middle tier are poor quality.
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Crypto taxes are a pain, especially if you are trading BTC pairs like ETHBTC because there is an extra step in calculations that need to be taken.

Atomic swaps are upon us, here is an example of decred to btc pair:

https://dcrdata.decred.org/market?chart=depth&xc=dcrdex&bin=1h
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Picked up an ASUS 3080 at the Columbus Microcenter and its running well 94.81 mhs at 230 watts in SMOS.  I have two weeks to return it if it starts losing hash.  I've had bad luck with ASUS in the past.  

Which model?


https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-tuf-rtx3080-10g-gaming/p/N82E16814126453?

or

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-rog-strix-rtx3080-o10g-gaming/p/N82E16814126457?

Every asus rog of any year i have owned has been good.

I have had problems with asus dual gpus.

I have the ASUS TUF.
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asus dual's are garbage
legendary
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Picked up an ASUS 3080 at the Columbus Microcenter and its running well 94.81 mhs at 230 watts in SMOS.  I have two weeks to return it if it starts losing hash.  I've had bad luck with ASUS in the past.  

Which model?


https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-tuf-rtx3080-10g-gaming/p/N82E16814126453?

or

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-rog-strix-rtx3080-o10g-gaming/p/N82E16814126457?

Every asus rog of any year i have owned has been good.

I have had problems with asus dual gpus.
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Picked up an ASUS 3080 at the Columbus Microcenter and its running well 94.81 mhs at 230 watts in SMOS.  I have two weeks to return it if it starts losing hash.  I've had bad luck with ASUS in the past. 
legendary
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eth fees are up too.  One of the top coins in fees generated is literally what seems to be a russian pyramid scheme   Huh lmao

I don't know exactly what it is to be honest ,but a lot of gpus are mining it. We are almost back to 2018 Jan all time highs in hash.

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