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jr. member
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So, which cards would you buy right now? I am planning to replace 5 rigs of 8xPolaris cards and will probably downsize in total rig count.

Am thinking to aim for two rigs of RTX 3080s - trying to aim for the same/similar hash-rate.
Now my question is: Which RTX 3080s are best in price/performance? I have a Microcenter around the corner, so hopefully can get lucky one of those days and grad a few to start with, but would love to see, which cards I should avoid.

DrX
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Just got my Asus 5600 XT & 5700 running, was little bit pain in a**.

I dont know was the problem mixing 500 and 5000 series cards, but got the to work with 20.20 driver.

Any advice about the clocks and voltages?

https://ibb.co/5XZC3XY

Amds cards are always a pain to get running without any issues 24/7  Cheesy
I have mixed rig with 5700xt, 5700 and 5600xt

I suggest you to run everything stock first, don't touch anything, and let run for 24h to see if it's stable, and then you can increase memory slowly, when you're happy with results you can undervolt to have better efficiency, and reduce the core clock too

At first I tried to overclock, undervolt and all at same time, I spent days until find the better result to be stable 24/7, and I found out that it's always better to do a step by step like I said above


If you run stock and stable for 24h you can know risers, GPUs, drivers and system are all good, and only thing to modify is GPUs settings

It was impossible to run that 5700 stock, mem temp was something like 106C and that wattage was over 200. System should be good as i only changed GPUs to newer.
I try to drive them now with these settings, maybe tomorrow i try to lift that memory little bit.
legendary
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Just got my Asus 5600 XT & 5700 running, was little bit pain in a**.

I dont know was the problem mixing 500 and 5000 series cards, but got the to work with 20.20 driver.

Any advice about the clocks and voltages?

https://ibb.co/5XZC3XY

Amds cards are always a pain to get running without any issues 24/7  Cheesy
I have mixed rig with 5700xt, 5700 and 5600xt

I suggest you to run everything stock first, don't touch anything, and let run for 24h to see if it's stable, and then you can increase memory slowly, when you're happy with results you can undervolt to have better efficiency, and reduce the core clock too

At first I tried to overclock, undervolt and all at same time, I spent days until find the better result to be stable 24/7, and I found out that it's always better to do a step by step like I said above


If you run stock and stable for 24h you can know risers, GPUs, drivers and system are all good, and only thing to modify is GPUs settings
DrX
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Just got my Asus 5600 XT & 5700 running, was little bit pain in a**.

I dont know was the problem mixing 500 and 5000 series cards, but got the to work with 20.20 driver.

Any advice about the clocks and voltages?

https://ibb.co/5XZC3XY
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Got a RTX 3090 today (EVGA Hybrid).  It loves power, but is quite efficient.  It pretty much matches BIOS modded 5700XT's at around 380 kW/W.




Note that the power readings for the AMD rigs include +35% to account for RAM, fans, etc, which are not part of the GPU power consumption mining programs reports:



Phil, btw, I sold all 26 of my 1080Ti's over the last week.  Got $499 for almost all of them within 24 of posting on eBay.  All my 1070's went for around $210 and my 1070Ti's went for $289.  Quite a number of them I purchased from you back in early 2018.  My 1080Ti's are all from fall 2017, so I have 3+ years mining 24/7 on them, so getting $450 after fees is a very decent return after they have already paid themselves off at least 2 times over.  I'm glad I waited until everyone realized that 3000 series (and AMD 6000 series for that matter) are pretty much impossible to get, which has really driven up the value of the 1000 series cards.

I'd love to snatch about 30 3060Ti's @$399, but it doesn't look like that will happen anytime soon.  I was at 2.4GH on Eth before I dumped all my 1000 series cards.  Would like to get back to that with 3000 series cards (don't really like the hassle of getting AMD cards running stable and the hassle of flashing the BIOS with memory straps).


Yeah, the 3000 series will take till feb to be easy to get.

I may list on ebay.

As the interest here has not been much at all.

I have 7 1080ti hybrids left

1 good blower 1080ti

Evga GTX 1660 6GB
Evga GTX 1660 Ti 6GB
Evga GTX 1660 Ti 6GB
Zotac GTX 1660 Ti 6GB


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Got a RTX 3090 today (EVGA Hybrid).  It loves power, but is quite efficient.  It pretty much matches BIOS modded 5700XT's at around 380 kW/W.




Note that the power readings for the AMD rigs include +35% to account for RAM, fans, etc, which are not part of the GPU power consumption mining programs reports:



Phil, btw, I sold all 26 of my 1080Ti's over the last week.  Got $499 for almost all of them within 24 of posting on eBay.  All my 1070's went for around $210 and my 1070Ti's went for $289.  Quite a number of them I purchased from you back in early 2018.  My 1080Ti's are all from fall 2017, so I have 3+ years mining 24/7 on them, so getting $450 after fees is a very decent return after they have already paid themselves off at least 2 times over.  I'm glad I waited until everyone realized that 3000 series (and AMD 6000 series for that matter) are pretty much impossible to get, which has really driven up the value of the 1000 series cards.

I'd love to snatch about 30 3060Ti's @$399, but it doesn't look like that will happen anytime soon.  I was at 2.4GH on Eth before I dumped all my 1000 series cards.  Would like to get back to that with 3000 series cards (don't really like the hassle of getting AMD cards running stable and the hassle of flashing the BIOS with memory straps).
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Philip, with that math on those 2 cards from bestbuy, are you speaking terms of any specific coin? 

and you're right - they are showing up as sold out LOL. sheesh. 



Eth at current prices which are subject to change.
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Philip, with that math on those 2 cards from bestbuy, are you speaking terms of any specific coin? 

and you're right - they are showing up as sold out LOL. sheesh. 

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I think if I was gonna use my old machine, I'd probably just put one GPU in it for practice/educational sake.  If I like it and can understand it well enough, I'd probably go ahead and build something proper, I'd want something to be able to run for a good long while.  I like the idea that you can have some flexibility with the different coins.  I'm intrigued. 

One of the sites I was on yesterday, was saying use this card for this coin, that card for that coin...  How do you know that by looking at the card specs? I'd hate to find a card by chance in a store or online only to find out it can't mine whatever coins I am wanting to mine.  I saw one card specifying the type of processors it had, is that what governs the type of algorithms it can chew on? 

And Philip, you mentioned some cards you were selling off, can you tell me more about those?  Might be great to start with something proven and fast track in by following in your foot steps. 
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Two cards are not cheap. Cant find a lot of choice.

I would buy a samsung usb stick disconnect the hdd and run simplemining.net  software.

they charge two bucks a month for a rig.

maybe you can find some 5500 xt 8gb cards for 220 each new.

best buy has them msi 5500 xt 8gb

 205 usd so 2 for 410.

they will sell out.

they are a good fit for your rig.

low power.

27+27=54 mh

about 1.75 usd a day.  rig should pull 200-230 watts. or 5-6kwatts a day.

at 14 cent power. 85 cents cost

so 1.75- 85=90 cents a day profit.

about 325 cash for 1 year.

you would need about 440 days to pay off.

low out lay you get in the game. mine and hodl
legendary
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This reminds me of when I started mining in 2014... was cheap and didn't want to buy more motherboards+cpu+ram that I decided to use one from like 2002 or 2003 or so. So I had some old old motherboard which had some pentium 4 processor and luckily it had 1 PCIe slot. So I decided to put in a brand new R9 280X into the slot and for some reason it didn't work. So I put in an older gpu like an Radeon 6xxx or 7xxx series and to my surprise it worked. Hashed at the exact same speed as a brand new i5 system pretty much.

Then I discovered that it had a 1x port also, so I orderd some risers and decided to hook up 2 GPUs to this decade and a half old system. To my surprise the second GPU worked. And the hashing speed was the same as in a regular i3/i5 system. Ran great for 1 day and then BAM! Some capacitor exploded on the motherboard and it never worked again.

It ran for like 2-3 weeks with the 1 GPU however with the second GPU it stressed some components and killed the motherboard. Hopefully the same won't happen to yours.
legendary
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Does that get installed instead of windows?  Honestly I'm not savvy at all on things like Linux or mac.  I'm a windows guy pretty much only.

Here's another detail I haven't been able to sort out in my reading on this topic.  Say I do build up to 8 GPUs on a rig.  Are they are synced together and functioning as 1 miner, or are they all 8 independent miners?  Do they all work on the same coin or are you able to do a couple on this coin and a couple on that coin, etc... ?  (I understand in general, that different coins fall under different algorithms, though I haven't really made a list of those to help me out yet.  I need to. )


It's not impossible to get more than 13 GPUs on windows, but trust me, it's not for everyone, and it will probably get you a headache trying to deal with a lot of cards in the same rig
Here's an interest video os BBT carter doing 21GPUs on windows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9tP74SjnBs

To be efficient, it's better to get a Linux based os for mining, it's simple to deal, in a few minutes you're mining and it's good for mixed rigs
Windows worth if you're using as a PC while mining (like many of us here), and windows have an advantage you can use your PC to stake some coins...

And another tip, it's easier to deal with 5 or maximum 6 GPUs rigs, in my experience 5 is the good spot, I remember my +6 GPUs rigs, lots of problems, hard to keep running 24/7 without any effort

And about you question of miners, you can have an 8 GPUs rig and have 8 miner programs running different algos, or you can have all GPUs mining in only 1 miner, or even have all AMDs running 1 miner and all Nvidias running another algo...
full member
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Right.  I'm looking at cards now and based on models that I see people recommending, it could be 4 or 5 grand just to get a handful of them.  And though that board can fit 13 cards, there is a note saying windows 10 only supports 8 for now...  I'm wondering if some of those mining-specific OS somebody mentioned overcomes that?  Does that get installed instead of windows?  Honestly I'm not savvy at all on things like Linux or mac.  I'm a windows guy pretty much only.  So I guess a question to consider, is spending $5k to mine 8 or so ETH in a year, or just spend $5k to buy 8 or so ETH and then go play angry birds LOL.

Here's another detail I haven't been able to sort out in my reading on this topic.  Say I do build up to 8 GPUs on a rig.  Are they are synced together and functioning as 1 miner, or are they all 8 independent miners?  Do they all work on the same coin or are you able to do a couple on this coin and a couple on that coin, etc... ?  (I understand in general, that different coins fall under different algorithms, though I haven't really made a list of those to help me out yet.  I need to. )



Yes get a mining os based on linux.  most will run off a thumbdrive.  no problem to run 13 gpus.  you wont need a hard drive and most will work in 4 or 8gb total ram.  Some like mmpos will let you mix cards or all same team...no problem.Why people insist of windows....its ok if your using your gaming machine to mine when not gaming...but for rigs...go linux or go home.
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Right.  I'm looking at cards now and based on models that I see people recommending, it could be 4 or 5 grand just to get a handful of them.  And though that board can fit 13 cards, there is a note saying windows 10 only supports 8 for now...  I'm wondering if some of those mining-specific OS somebody mentioned overcomes that?  Does that get installed instead of windows?  Honestly I'm not savvy at all on things like Linux or mac.  I'm a windows guy pretty much only.  So I guess a question to consider, is spending $5k to mine 8 or so ETH in a year, or just spend $5k to buy 8 or so ETH and then go play angry birds LOL.

Here's another detail I haven't been able to sort out in my reading on this topic.  Say I do build up to 8 GPUs on a rig.  Are they are synced together and functioning as 1 miner, or are they all 8 independent miners?  Do they all work on the same coin or are you able to do a couple on this coin and a couple on that coin, etc... ?  (I understand in general, that different coins fall under different algorithms, though I haven't really made a list of those to help me out yet.  I need to. )

sr. member
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The fun part will be trying to find reasonably priced cards to fill that with... everything is overpriced. I was looking at RX 5700 XT's and some vendors are selling them for over $750. I paid right around $400 for each of mine a few months ago.
legendary
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It can be used for desktop, there is dvi for monitor.

Some people want to cram a lot of gpu in a board. Imagine finding a faulty riser cable x13, riser board x13, gpu x13, pcie socket x13, power connectors to riser x13 and power connectors to gpu x13.

Thats 13 x 6 = 78 possible area where the fuck up is...excluding the system. Never bought one, never owned one ever since this kind of boards are made.
legendary
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
old stuff that works is the best stuff because its already paid for, go for it i dont see why a 3 card setup wouldnt work.
legendary
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Ok, thank you for the feedback. Definitely would be primarily to cut my teeth on, and trying to take advantage of some hardware already laying around.  But if it's just a big step backwards, then maybe it's not worth going that route.  Thank you for giving me that side to consider. 

It will work, get a good PSU and riser.

I still have q6600, 6gb ddr2,  80gb sata on win7 with 3x riser bought in 2013 with 3x 1080ti running.
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Ok, thank you for the feedback. Definitely would be primarily to cut my teeth on, and trying to take advantage of some hardware already laying around.  But if it's just a big step backwards, then maybe it's not worth going that route.  Thank you for giving me that side to consider. 

You can try one of the many linux based mining OS's that run from the thumbdrive mmpos / hive / simple / rave etc.

I dont know about all of them but mmpos doesnt charge any fees for up to 8 gpus ...ever.

Would be trivial to get the board mining most likely.  If it is too old for those...Ethos can probably handle it but it is not free or as easy to use as some of the more modern up to date mining OS.

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