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newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
How much longer is discussion about 5 separate topics going to occur in one thread? Am I the only one who thinks this is an ineffective way of communicating?

Probably forever.  I like it.  This place is like a noisy and boisterous pub full of interesting people, a fun place to be.

https://nxtchg.com/img/var/cheers.jpg

 Grin

+1.  Absolutely.


Sometimes you want to go... where NOBODY knows your real name...   Wink Grin Cheesy

All joking aside, there's no reason why this thread couldn't still exist for general chatter. I think it's just as entertaining as you all, but I just don't think it's conducive to moving the project along as fast as it can go. As others have brought up, there's some fierce competition coming soon from Ethereum et al. Regardless of what you think about how they are structured with "heads" or "corporate leaders", I can guarantee they are organized in the sense that I am talking about: effective and efficient use of information, human and capital resources. I honestly think keeping big topic discussions going on in one thread is the equivalent of 50 people in one room shouting trying to get things done. Yes, it's possible to progress this way, but not as quickly and focused as they can be if discussion was held in dedicated threads.

I've yet to hear why others think keeping discussion about voting, marketing, client problems, when Cryptsy will add, a social network, what the LTB 1 minute spot will sound like, the rate of NXT/BTC, Bitcoin Miami updates, etc in ONE thread is a more effective way of communication rather than having dedicated topics for example:

Topic
Description
Progress Update
Timeline
Problems That Need Solutions
Bounties
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 504

So we are paying a CPM of around $75 for this advertising.  That's really expensive.

I'm not saying these audio spots are a bad idea, I don't know.  I'm saying $20K is a LOT of real money for an advertising budget.

If we are ready to spend that kind of cash, we should consider print ads in Bitcoin Magazine. 

For $20K we could get full page color ads on page 1 for the next three years in a printing of 25,000 in each month's production run.

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/advertising/

http://btcmag.9wizards.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/BITCOIN-Pricing-List-Interactive-Issues-17-19_web.pdf

This would have a CPM of around $20-$25.  Don Draper of Mad Men would say that's three times more effective.  Plus every ad could have a QR code or URL that would sweep the user immediately on to more info.

+1

do both...radio spots & print ads (doesn;t have to be 1st page but should be full page)

BOTH ARE ESSENTIAL....WE PLUG THE RASPI/ENERGY EFFICIENCY TECHNICAL STUFF IN PRINT or WEBSITE.

NOTE: isn't the Bitcoin magazine editors oppose to Nxt??





YES they are.  They were fast-tracking my "Whats NXT in the world of cryptocurrencies"  It went throuigh som proofreading and some critiques for no opposing viewpoints which I addressed, then went to chief editor who shot it down.  Said chief editor is founder of ethereum and specifically told me he wouldnt publish it because NXT was voted "most likely a scam" in some poll somewhere

Luckily for us though, I believe the sentiment is changing, and they will probably have no choice but to publish us now

BTW I managed to get it translated into many languages Smiley

Anon136: Why NXT ought to be taken seriously / Chinese (为什么我们应该重视Nxt?) / Miramare's Chinese translation / Spanish

Opticalcarrier Whats NXT in the World of Cryptocurrencies? / Spanish / Chinese / Russian
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
have you guys seen this? BitInstant CEO charged with money laundering
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-ceo-of-major-bitcoin-exchange-arrested-2014-1

That's why we have a bounty for article:
- Nxt and its Decentralized P2P exchanges with mixing services = totally untraceable, anonymous and uncontrolled by any government.

The sooner someone writes it the higher chance to get it published as an answer to this event

I dont think we even have any idea how any mixing could work.  We could do something regarding decentralized exchange as we can actually test this out now, but mixing....

One thing to consider as to mixing...this, more than anything, is what is currently giving regulators the world over agita. I agree it's a powerful feature, but emphasizing Nxt's unique abilities in this respect could make Nxt a bit of a poster child for all that's wrong with decentralized crypto currencies in lawmakers' eyes.

Then again, some say there's no such thing as bad publicity...
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Yeha I was more talking about the domain then anything else.

The http://www.mynxt.info site looks really good indeed. Smiley

And your right that there is an enormous amount of work in the blockchain.info site.

All,  Ive created a DNS A record for blocks.nxtcrypto.org resolving to 87.230.14.1 which is nexern's block explorer.  In a bit of time it should propogate through the internet.  Now nexern's server may/maynot work correctly with this, but if anyone else can think of a better name than blocks for the site, let me know
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
have you guys seen this? BitInstant CEO charged with money laundering
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-ceo-of-major-bitcoin-exchange-arrested-2014-1

That's why we have a bounty for article:
- Nxt and its Decentralized P2P exchanges with mixing services = totally untraceable, anonymous and uncontrolled by any government.

The sooner someone writes it the higher chance to get it published as an answer to this event

I dont think we even have any idea how any mixing could work.  We could do something regarding decentralized exchange as we can actually test this out now, but mixing....
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Crypti Community Manager

Can you PM me which features do you want to see the most? Smiley I'm currently thinking about doing a NXT reddit. (with the different discussion areas)

If we can get a specific sum in NXT I could also take a break for a few months and working full-time on this.

Sure, let me think on it and I'll get back.  Overall I was thinking a reddit or a BTT style would be great.  Reddit might be a little more appropriate and easier to follow if I had to vote on it.

Okay. Thanks. You can also write me an email at [email protected]

I like the reddit idea more. There you can create subreddits like "economy", "trading", "websites", "services" etc.. I'm not sure about the up and down voting, because this have to be on my database, and not on the blockchain.

For general voting I could also create an extra section for this on nxtion, where you have to vote with your account. The more NXT you send, the more voting points you got for the topic.


My goal is to make an api later, so that everyone can create it's own nxtion clones, but still based on my blockchain data.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
How much longer is discussion about 5 separate topics going to occur in one thread? Am I the only one who thinks this is an ineffective way of communicating?

Probably forever.  I like it.  This place is like a noisy and boisterous pub full of interesting people, a fun place to be.



 Grin

+1.  Absolutely.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100

So we are paying a CPM of around $75 for this advertising.  That's really expensive.

I'm not saying these audio spots are a bad idea, I don't know.  I'm saying $20K is a LOT of real money for an advertising budget.

If we are ready to spend that kind of cash, we should consider print ads in Bitcoin Magazine. 

For $20K we could get full page color ads on page 1 for the next three years in a printing of 25,000 in each month's production run.

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/advertising/

http://btcmag.9wizards.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/BITCOIN-Pricing-List-Interactive-Issues-17-19_web.pdf

This would have a CPM of around $20-$25.  Don Draper of Mad Men would say that's three times more effective.  Plus every ad could have a QR code or URL that would sweep the user immediately on to more info.

+1

do both...radio spots & print ads (doesn;t have to be 1st page but should be full page)

BOTH ARE ESSENTIAL....WE PLUG THE RASPI/ENERGY EFFICIENCY TECHNICAL STUFF IN PRINT or WEBSITE.

NOTE: isn't the Bitcoin magazine editors oppose to Nxt??





YES they are.  They were fast-tracking my "Whats NXT in the world of cryptocurrencies"  It went throuigh som proofreading and some critiques for no opposing viewpoints which I addressed, then went to chief editor who shot it down.  Said chief editor is founder of ethereum and specifically told me he wouldnt publish it because NXT was voted "most likely a scam" in some poll somewhere

Luckily for us though, I believe the sentiment is changing, and they will probably have no choice but to publish us now
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004

Can you PM me which features do you want to see the most? Smiley I'm currently thinking about doing a NXT reddit. (with the different discussion areas)

If we can get a specific sum in NXT I could also take a break for a few months and working full-time on this.

Sure, let me think on it and I'll get back.  Overall I was thinking a reddit or a BTT style would be great.  Reddit might be a little more appropriate and easier to follow if I had to vote on it.
newbie
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
Since the main exchange is NXT <> BTC, you should see some form of price adjustment when one or the other loses or gains value.

Each trading pair has its own Market.

I understand, BUT  Grin

BTC has a value. When NXT came to life BTC was worth let's say $900 (don't know what it actually was). It looks like THAT price was the starting point for every other trade ever since... It hasn't moved up or down with BTC.



The answer is clear. We can get it if we think what is the "price" on the exchange? This is just a value in some order. The lowest value for selling and the highest one for buying in every moment of time. Ok, BTC is getting cheaper, we'd like to be NXT more expensive, but it means that people on the exchange
DGEX (for example) should buy NXT more and more. They just don't do it. Why? This is another question. But here you see there is no direct connection between pairs BTC-USD and BTC-NXT. Definitely, these markets are different.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Crypti Community Manager
Speaking about voting. Can we just make it possible to choose method when one starts a voting? And maybe even edit parameters?

Yes, we can.

For all the people discussing voting (and I appreciate it!), let's not focus on whether it's 1 NXT = 1 vote or 1 account = 1 vote - it's neither.

If we want to solve it we need to find a clever, unexpected, original solution.

So start throwing here your crazy ideas, like "voting with your car" or "voting with your cat", instead of going in circles.
It would be great to develop a decentralized social network based on nxt. This will bring personalities to decision making process and they will care about their reputation. Also there will be groups and message boards to work together on world problems. On the other hand, such network itself will make nxt famous and everybody in the world will know what it is.
Let's give free people everything they need: money, power, electronic democracy!
Was it crazy enough?

CFB offered a bounty to develop a decentralized forum similar to BTT, but no one had tackled the project so far

Hey,

I'm doing this with nxtion.com. Wink Although there aren't many people which seem interested. :/

Soon encrypted messages will be implemented. For this I need to add quite some code. I need to code a whole new section. Then discussions will be implemented, after this a statistic and search option. Last but not least the possibility to post to other people walls. Also I plan to do groups.

If you want to discuss about specific topics, do you want areas (like on nextcoin.org: General, Economy, Promotion, Marketplace etc.) or do you want a simple thread where you can discuss the given topic?


Here are the votes for features: https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=666

Awesome, thanks for doing that, I'm definitely interested.

Can you PM me which features do you want to see the most? Smiley I'm currently thinking about doing a NXT reddit. (with the different discussion areas)

If we can get a specific sum in NXT I could also take a break for a few months and working full-time on this.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004
Speaking about voting. Can we just make it possible to choose method when one starts a voting? And maybe even edit parameters?

Yes, we can.

For all the people discussing voting (and I appreciate it!), let's not focus on whether it's 1 NXT = 1 vote or 1 account = 1 vote - it's neither.

If we want to solve it we need to find a clever, unexpected, original solution.

So start throwing here your crazy ideas, like "voting with your car" or "voting with your cat", instead of going in circles.
It would be great to develop a decentralized social network based on nxt. This will bring personalities to decision making process and they will care about their reputation. Also there will be groups and message boards to work together on world problems. On the other hand, such network itself will make nxt famous and everybody in the world will know what it is.
Let's give free people everything they need: money, power, electronic democracy!
Was it crazy enough?

CFB offered a bounty to develop a decentralized forum similar to BTT, but no one had tackled the project so far

Hey,

I'm doing this with nxtion.com. Wink Although there aren't many people which seem interested. :/

Soon encrypted messages will be implemented. For this I need to add quite some code. I need to code a whole new section. Then discussions will be implemented, after this a statistic and search option. Last but not least the possibility to post to other people walls. Also I plan to do groups.

If you want to discuss about specific topics, do you want areas (like on nextcoin.org: General, Economy, Promotion, Marketplace etc.) or do you want a simple thread where you can discuss the given topic?


Here are the votes for features: https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=666

Awesome, thanks for doing that, I'm definitely interested.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
JustabitofTime - Co-Founder of CoinTropolis
Once I receive Nexern's email address, the next step with Cryptsy takes place. The email is written, waiting to go out.

Great!

Do you have any information as to how good the chances are to add NXT @ Cryptsy?
How long might that take?

Email sent.

Nope, I'm simply offering Cryptsy resources to ask questions about implantation. I asked a few fairly direct questions at the conference, ultimately trying to figure out how to best serve the exchange.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
why not lobby the bitcointalk mods to add a new section on the front page below bitcoin discussion.. have a nextcoin discussion?? Smiley

The mods already showed to have negative attitude to Nxt. At least one of them.

We need to get organized somehow and move to another place.

I would say it should be part of the marketing plan to move all of us to a well structured forum. We will have things done 10 times quicker.
But I guess thats the downside of having everything decetralized (kind of exciting tho haha)

You can get organized and remain de-centralized structurally. Don't confuse organization (meaning efficient and effective coordination of information, human and capital resources), a fundamental necessity to success, with the architectural design of the NXT ecosystem (decentralization).
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1002
Simcoin Developer
I would say it should be part of the marketing plan to move all of us to a well structured forum. We will have things done 10 times quicker.

We need somebody dedicated full time to just one task of managing a forum, otherwise it's not gonna happen.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Crypti Community Manager
Speaking about voting. Can we just make it possible to choose method when one starts a voting? And maybe even edit parameters?

Yes, we can.

For all the people discussing voting (and I appreciate it!), let's not focus on whether it's 1 NXT = 1 vote or 1 account = 1 vote - it's neither.

If we want to solve it we need to find a clever, unexpected, original solution.

So start throwing here your crazy ideas, like "voting with your car" or "voting with your cat", instead of going in circles.
It would be great to develop a decentralized social network based on nxt. This will bring personalities to decision making process and they will care about their reputation. Also there will be groups and message boards to work together on world problems. On the other hand, such network itself will make nxt famous and everybody in the world will know what it is.
Let's give free people everything they need: money, power, electronic democracy!
Was it crazy enough?

CFB offered a bounty to develop a decentralized forum similar to BTT, but no one had tackled the project so far

Hey,

I'm doing this with nxtion.com. Wink Although there aren't many people which seem interested. :/

Soon encrypted messages will be implemented. For this I need to add quite some code. I need to code a whole new section. Then discussions will be implemented, after this a statistic and search option. Last but not least the possibility to post to other people walls. Also I plan to do groups.

If you want to discuss about specific topics, do you want areas (like on nextcoin.org: General, Economy, Promotion, Marketplace etc.) or do you want a simple thread where you can discuss the given topic?


Here are the votes for features: https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=666
member
Activity: 111
Merit: 10
why not lobby the bitcointalk mods to add a new section on the front page below bitcoin discussion.. have a nextcoin discussion?? Smiley

The mods already showed to have negative attitude to Nxt. At least one of them.

We need to get organized somehow and move to another place.

I would say it should be part of the marketing plan to move all of us to a well structured forum. We will have things done 10 times quicker.
But I guess thats the downside of having everything decetralized (kind of exciting tho haha)
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 500
why not lobby the bitcointalk mods to add a new section on the front page below bitcoin discussion.. have a nextcoin discussion?? Smiley

The mods already showed to have negative attitude to Nxt. At least one of them.

The BTT mods have shown negative attitude towards everything that is not Bitcoin as far as I perceive.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
JustabitofTime - Co-Founder of CoinTropolis
why not lobby the bitcointalk mods to add a new section on the front page below bitcoin discussion.. have a nextcoin discussion?? Smiley

The mods already showed to have negative attitude to Nxt. At least one of them.

CfB, I met with Paul over at Cryptsy at the Miami Conference. I'm CC'n you on the email about to go out.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1002
Simcoin Developer
How much longer is discussion about 5 separate topics going to occur in one thread? Am I the only one who thinks this is an ineffective way of communicating?

Probably forever.  I like it.  This place is like a noisy and boisterous pub full of interesting people, a fun place to be.



 Grin
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