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legendary
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Ukigo is BCNext. I wasn't saying anything about it in respect to his identity, but since salsacz keeps talking about it it's no secret anymore.
Decrits' project is most likely NXT itself

Besides all proof salsa already posted there are also:

1) Double space after periods
2) Strong anti-communism/socialism feelings
It seems more likely that etlase3 is BCNext

Double space after periods was the standard way it is done on typewriters.  So your 1) only "proves" that BCNext used a typewriter.  Not that it actually proves anything.  See, I just put two spaces after the period!  And exclam.  I have just proven I am BCNext Smiley

Let us use a bit of fuzzy math.  I think typewriters were used 30 years ago, so if we assume that the two spaces is actual proof of typewriter usage and not a misdirection, we "know" BCNext is 45+ years old.  Give or take some years.

I think people in the West during the cold war all had pretty strong anti-communist feelings, but this is again an age thing. Maybe you can put it into a more political active category, lets be bold and say the top 10%.

So you have now whittled down BCNext to somebody in the set of people older than 45 and in top 10% on the cold war feelings side.  I think the set of these people is a bit larger than one person.

James
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Ukigo is BCNext. I wasn't saying anything about it in respect to his identity, but since salsacz keeps talking about it it's no secret anymore.
Decrits' project is most likely NXT itself

Besides all proof salsa already posted there are also:

1) Double space after periods
2) Strong anti-communism/socialism feelings

WRONG ukigo is CfB!
legendary
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@Cfb

It seems that NXT now has a whitepaper. Do you agree?

James
legendary
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CEO Bitpanda.com
Spending about a week time,the Nxt whitepaper has been translated to Chinese.
This will let more Chinese better understand of Nxt ecosystem.
http://nxtchina.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=486&page=1&extra=#pid1066

Donation welcomed.
Thanks.

I cannot read your whitepaper. That website is offline.
Is anyone else facing the same issue?

Online for me. But yeah, quite the language barrier Wink
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tabula rasa!




hero member
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It's the Great Wall of China paradox
hero member
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Better for me, I wasn't happy when I found proofs that were too obvious for me so there was no more mystery:

Nxt has such features as
# Instant transactions ("0-confirmation transactions")
# Anonymity of IP address send transactions & mining blocks (with Tor or the cloud client)
# P2P exchange BTC (with colored coins)
# Faster difficulty changes (adjusted each block)
# Name doesn't contain "coin", "cash", "kash", "money", "dollar",  nor "bit" (at least now, Nxt is a codename)
vs:
Hi all !
For new proposed "inflationary" fork of PPCoin,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/truecoin-157994
we need to coin REALLY good name.

There are 3 rules  :

1) The name of the fork should NOT contain
 these particles : "coin", "money", "cash", "bit", byte". ( some other disallowed syllables might be added here later ).
- here he could simply copy Ukigo's thoughts

+
Both of them are using "can not" phrase very often, almost on every page of their posts
legendary
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Newbie
well.. and who are you? Cheesy

He is the inventor of Decrits concept.
hero member
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well.. and who are you? Cheesy
newbie
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It's a month since BCNext left Nxt and started with collecting trains again https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ukigo-14881

Ukigo is not BCNext, he was hosting a wiki and communicating with me about decrits.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
It seems that I hadn't paid proper attention about the idea of the random numbers that were being suggested (they are actually hashes of random numbers with the *actual* numbers being delivered later).

I am now starting to warm to the idea (provided that the range of these numbers is large enough - say 64 bit at least).
sr. member
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☕ NXT-4BTE-8Y4K-CDS2-6TB82
So let's to the heart of the matter - a forger can always decide *not to forge* and we simply cannot stop that (sure the account can be penalised but of course that forger will probably have other accounts so it doesn't really hurt them much if the have divided up their stake amongst many accounts).

True. They simply forge nonsense and we cannot check that.

By including some other information we can add a small amount of entropy which will make that future prediction impossible so at least no-one can "time the purchase of their ticket" to get an advantage.

Including other information will not help. Excluding will.

If you include information, one can game the system.
If you exclude information, one cannot.

newbie
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Goodmorning people  Grin .



good evening dude, i am going to sleep right now.
have a good day , hail to all NXT stakeholders.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
First of all, transactions of the past are just a constant factor. So, the bad guy simply needs to tweak the current block (the (1440-X)-th block) to get what he want. He he find it easier to simply tweak the account variable, it okay for him. He can simply leave the block empty. The other way round is also possible.

So let's to the heart of the matter - a forger can always decide *not to forge* and we simply cannot stop that (sure the account can be penalised but of course that forger will probably have other accounts so it doesn't really hurt them much if the have divided up their stake amongst many accounts).

We *can't* fix that - all I am trying to stop anyone from being able to "predict their lottery ticket value" but calculating the expected TF results.

By including some other information we can add a small amount of entropy which will make that future prediction impossible so at least no-one can "time the purchase of their ticket" to get an advantage.

Of course when it comes to the block when your ticket is going to "appear" that forger *can* affect the ticket values (for everyone who bought a ticket 1440 blocks ago) so a "nefarious forger" can always *stop you from getting a winning ticket* if they want to (unless you can see a way to prevent that) but at least that doesn't guarantee that they *will* have the winning ticket (the main reason to even try and game it).
legendary
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#Free market
Goodmorning people  Grin .

hero member
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It's a month since BCNext left Nxt and started with collecting trains again https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ukigo-14881
sr. member
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☕ NXT-4BTE-8Y4K-CDS2-6TB82
Version 0.4.1 of the math-of-forging paper (now also with a randomization algorithm): http://www.docdroid.net/ahms/forging0-4-1.pdf.html

Great. Thank you for acknowledging CfB, CIYAM, BloodyRookie and me.

Thank you also for including additional ideas like accounts splitting and randomization.
sr. member
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Version 0.4.1 of the math-of-forging paper (now also with a randomization algorithm): http://www.docdroid.net/ahms/forging0-4-1.pdf.html
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i predict 500K dump before the end of the day!

Pessimistic scenario is more realistic. I am afraid that NXT rate will stuck around 4000 satoshi for a very long time (until next NY). Emule may be right in his (her) prediction.
Other strong competitors will be there. NXT can sink into oblivion.

Maybe. Their track record suggests otherwise  Cheesy but who knows. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day  Cheesy
sr. member
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☕ NXT-4BTE-8Y4K-CDS2-6TB82
One remark:
Right now, a forger only has one variable (accounts) to tweak until it suits his needs.
Just imagine the bad guy forges the last block in that (1440-X)-row (e.g. accidentally). He now has two variables (accounts, transactions) to tweak.

Yup - (that's why I wrote X rather than 1 for starters) - I think an approach that would require being in control of forging multiple blocks in a row would be the best strategy for defense here.

For example if we included # of transactions until X - 3 then balance of txs until X - 2 then say number of even account numbers used until X - 1 (or some other such ideas spreading perhaps over 10 blocks or more) then might have something with just "too many variables" to be cheated unless you control that vast majority of forging power.

Maybe, there is a misunderstanding here: The variables are in favor of the attacker not against him. More possibilities are not bad. They do not necessarily increase the difficulty.

First of all, transactions of the past are just a constant factor. So, the bad guy simply needs to tweak the current block (the (1440-X)-th block) to get what he want. He he find it easier to simply tweak the account variable, it okay for him. He can simply leave the block empty. The other way round is also possible.
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