Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 153. (Read 2761645 times)
how u doing guys
NXT is way to complicted for normal people, why not just have a normal system like bitcoin?
Why do you think so?
(1) Download Java
(2) Unzip to a folder (no installers or short cuts like usual window software)
(2) Click on bat files
(3) By default, the file uses java (instead of javaw) so you have running command prompt open -- that's not most people understand.
(3) Must create strong passwords; again a risky business for people used to using passwords like "password1"
I wish Wesleh's client comes sooner -- maybe with next release. It's really needed and should be top priority.
I think she was referring to NXT itself. Not how to use it.
and i dont think we should move all the discussion to the new forum. As someone already pointed out, this thread alone is good advertisement for Nxt.
No reason to close it.
Just leave it open, so we still have a channel towards the community here
Why close down something that is both epic and useful?
I am not seeing the "big bosses" of NXT around the new forum...
Where are these marvelous discussions about AE, TF, AT....
Where are these marvelous discussions about AE, TF, AT....
We moved over here;
http://107.170.117.237/index.php
No need to use the ip any longer, http://nxtforum.org
I am not seeing the "big bosses" of NXT around the new forum...
Where are these marvelous discussions about AE, TF, AT....
Where are these marvelous discussions about AE, TF, AT....
We moved over here;
http://107.170.117.237/index.php
I am not seeing the "big bosses" of NXT around the new forum...
Where are these marvelous discussions about AE, TF, AT....
Where are these marvelous discussions about AE, TF, AT....
I figured out how to choose a random number deterministically within the decentralized Nxt network, where someone with 90% of the forging power as determined by proof of stake could only get lucky enough to manipulate this number 1 in a billion years at a rate of 1 block per minute. It would only require 300 forgers online, we currently have more than this. If we have get 500 forgers participating this number drops to someone with 90% of the forging power only getting lucky enough 1 in approximately 40 Octillion years.
And it scales nicely and it's fast, could easily be done. No proof of work required. Could probably cut down how long you lock up funds and changes to forging power to 10 blocks, say 60 if you want to be safe. I'm telling you, it's big. Already run it by one person, would like to run it by others.
If I were working for Nxt it'd be a different story but I don't want to just put the whole idea if I can get a bounty on it. If I can proof this, is there a bounty on it? Or you guys already have a work around in mind that could achieve this?
I proposed a randomization procedure a few days ago, here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5838370And it scales nicely and it's fast, could easily be done. No proof of work required. Could probably cut down how long you lock up funds and changes to forging power to 10 blocks, say 60 if you want to be safe. I'm telling you, it's big. Already run it by one person, would like to run it by others.
If I were working for Nxt it'd be a different story but I don't want to just put the whole idea if I can get a bounty on it. If I can proof this, is there a bounty on it? Or you guys already have a work around in mind that could achieve this?
Is your solution similar?
Please guys, take a few minutes to take a look at hashrate.org
I've really tried my best to make a game changer here.
Too bad I've been working so hard on it I forgot to stock up on NXT ahead of time, lol
Looks COOL dude!I've really tried my best to make a game changer here.
Too bad I've been working so hard on it I forgot to stock up on NXT ahead of time, lol
A few points (I know you're still developing)
- There's one picture on the main site that doesn't load: "http://www.nxt.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/NXT_300.png".
- Clicking on top tabs gets you to an empty page
(P.S. could you crosspost this to the new forum? You would get a lot more reactions there, I think).
+1 love the NXT I'm getting from it... need some more SHA miners to come join me....
Please guys, take a few minutes to take a look at hashrate.org
I've really tried my best to make a game changer here.
Too bad I've been working so hard on it I forgot to stock up on NXT ahead of time, lol
Looks COOL dude!I've really tried my best to make a game changer here.
Too bad I've been working so hard on it I forgot to stock up on NXT ahead of time, lol
A few points (I know you're still developing)
- There's one picture on the main site that doesn't load: "http://www.nxt.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/NXT_300.png".
- Clicking on top tabs gets you to an empty page
(P.S. could you crosspost this to the new forum? You would get a lot more reactions there, I think).
NXT is way to complicted for normal people, why not just have a normal system like bitcoin?
You had a learning period with Bitcoin too, NXT isn't different in that. And I don't know why you're saying it's more complicated - it's basically the same level.
I posted this at 5 March;
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What average people do;
1. Open Google
2. Search NXT, NXT wallet
3. Click at the first website
4. Download the wallet
Result; NRS wallet appears on their desktop.
5. Cannot install
6. Delete
7. never look at it again
Aaaaannnd we lost another potential investor in NXT
So I really think that all the NXT website's should use the same 'easy to install' clients.
1. Open Google
2. Search NXT, NXT wallet
3. Click at the first website
4. Download the wallet
Result; NRS wallet appears on their desktop.
5. Cannot install
6. Delete
7. never look at it again
Aaaaannnd we lost another potential investor in NXT
So I really think that all the NXT website's should use the same 'easy to install' clients.
Maybe now you can understand why people find NXT so hard and technical.
That's why we are working with the client of Wesleyh. Jean-Luc will soon integrate the client of Wesleyh to NRS.
This way, we won't lose peoples interest in NXT.
SSL is needed to ensure that javascript client is not manipulated during transmission
Right. But the user is getting the javascript from nxtra.org, which I presume is under Wesley's control. If so, user has to trust him (and still use SSL so it is not modified in transit), but he already is trusting him that the client he maintains is not malicious.What if nxtra.org is hacked? The client could be modified and everyone using it will be hacked along with it.
It would be a lot safer if he makes it as app in chrome store.The users no longer would need to download javascript from nxtra.org.
Of course, again this is a test version it will be released as a standalone app which communicates with the nodes, AND as a firefox / chrome extension.
NXT is way to complicted for normal people, why not just have a normal system like bitcoin?
Why do you think so?
(1) Download Java
(2) Unzip to a folder (no installers or short cuts like usual window software)
(2) Click on bat files
(3) By default, the file uses java (instead of javaw) so you have running command prompt open -- that's not most people understand.
(3) Must create strong passwords; again a risky business for people used to using passwords like "password1"
I wish Wesleh's client comes sooner -- maybe with next release. It's really needed and should be top priority.
NXT is way to complicted for normal people, why not just have a normal system like bitcoin?
You had a learning period with Bitcoin too, NXT isn't different in that. And I don't know why you're saying it's more complicated - it's basically the same level.
NXT is way to complicted for normal people, why not just have a normal system like bitcoin?
Why do you think so?
The browser plugin approach used by blockchain.info might be advisable (and would be useful for CIYAM as well - there is in fact a task I had put on CIYAM Open for this which I could re-open if there is interest).
SSL is needed to ensure that javascript client is not manipulated during transmission
Right. But the user is getting the javascript from nxtra.org, which I presume is under Wesley's control. If so, user has to trust him (and still use SSL so it is not modified in transit), but he already is trusting him that the client he maintains is not malicious.What if nxtra.org is hacked? The client could be modified and everyone using it will be hacked along with it.
It would be a lot safer if he makes it as app in chrome store.The users no longer would need to download javascript from nxtra.org.
and i dont think we should move all the discussion to the new forum. As someone already pointed out, this thread alone is good advertisement for Nxt.
Please guys, take a few minutes to take a look at hashrate.org
I've really tried my best to make a game changer here.
Too bad I've been working so hard on it I forgot to stock up on NXT ahead of time, lol
I've really tried my best to make a game changer here.
Too bad I've been working so hard on it I forgot to stock up on NXT ahead of time, lol
Yeah, it looks good.
NXT is way to complicted for normal people, why not just have a normal system like bitcoin?
New clients like this one
http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/
will make it much simpler
(that client is running on testnet, so don't use your real password)
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