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Also, this is confusing:

https://i.imgur.com/ghHUKBu.png

Is DGEX not part of the community? What makes the NXT community separate from DGEX? Are you referring to the forum? Does anyone else see what I'm getting at here or am I a complete lunatic?
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I post a few days ago in nexcoin.org that aws.amazon.com cloud gives 1 year free micro t1 VPS
I have a windows one free and now I added onepaid both with slightly more than 600mb ram. It seems that the nxt nodes run ok on them. I don't have them hallmarked but I thought we run as many like them as we could to support the stability.

It costs 0 for 1 year.
Go make accounts in aws.amazon.com and set up a VPS with nxt node.
You need to modify the web.xml
         myAddress
         PUT THE VPS IP HERE

Don't put money to fogrge just run nxt client.

Just running nxt node (client) with 0 nxt in it will help the stability right?? or am I confused again!!!!

Bai,

I signed up and I'm at my console home page. How do I set up a VPS? Do I launch an EC2 instance? Which flavor (linux, windows) of Amazon Machine Image should I choose?

Also, has anyone confirmed that this will help nxt network stability?

Why am I doing this when I can't even get my client to run properly? Tongue
sr. member
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I created a new thread for the bounty CFB announced so it's easy to see who's working on it and what needs to be done: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404321.new#new. Please post there if you're interested in working on it.

Bounty announcement

100'000 NXT will be paid for working JavaScript code that signs and verifies signatures using NRS algo.

- The licence must allow to use the code in any application
- Sign/verify speed must be not lower than 100 signatures per second on a 1 GHz CPU (1 core)
- All the code must be in a single non-obfuscated well-formatted .js file
- Input/output values must be strings like "8302504e4e57c6c65335289879c6915a273d3aae7bd086058e403fcd2bc18341"

The bounty is valid till the 20th of January, 2014 12:00:00 UTC. The complete code must be published in this thread.
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       For how much longer do we tolerate this ?!?!? I definitively moving out to forums.nxtcrypto.org - they have very nice slidebar. I'm sick of Graviton's puppet forum. Please don't call it official anymore.

LOL, that's our own Kim Jong-un Smiley

I always wonder about such dictators - how stupid do you have to be to believe that trying to hide a problem equals solving it?
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you sorely underestimate the amount of time that me and those 3 other people are spending on the info/www/forums sites of nxtcrypto.org.

You just may not be aware of the resources you have available?  visit forums.nxtcrypt.org and start speaking out!

Perhaps I was being unclear. This has no bearing on your or any of the other developers continued efforts, and thank you for stepping up. I would contribute more if I could but I'm just not as technical as you.

What I was referring to with "time" is the time that outside interests have to spend looking for authoritative information on the topic. There is a LOT of trolling going around and it is my belief that a large part of the community views nextcoin.org as THE authoritative source on NXT outside of this thread, simply because it has the most activity. I say that strategically, de-centralization in this sense is a bad idea because misinformation is being disseminated and in my case, (the reason I'm getting very heated about all of this) useful information is being threatened for deletion because of a clear conflict of interest. This is  hurting NXT price discovery and serving as a barrier to entry for interested investors. This has no bearing on who Graviton is but the conflict exists nonetheless. Meanwhile, people who are trying to get involved or are, at the very least, interested in investing may not be getting quality information because of the lack of a clear, authentic source.



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       For how much longer do we tolerate this ?!?!? I definitively moving out to forums.nxtcrypto.org - they have very nice slidebar. I'm sick of Graviton's puppet forum. Please don't call it official anymore.
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Internet of Value
But this thing about voting by action make a lot of sense. There is no actually voting system needed. At least for important things like alias trasfer.
That's what I'm talking about! Anything can be solved without monsterous mechanism like that. Some big aliases's holders wanna power to sell theri aliases? No problem. They ask some dev to implement that. And community agree/disagree with result by their own actions. I see no problem, I'll install such feature. Someone see problem? Well, he start his own Nxt or manages to live without it or even start to find support to disagreement of such dangerous (in his eyes) feature. And market'll decide.

I second this opinion. there has to be a lengthy debate, why we need voting.
did I read somewhere it was connected with the asset exchange!?

I disagree with this opinion. I think we need a voting system. Now how can we come to a consensus ?
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But this thing about voting by action make a lot of sense. There is no actually voting system needed. At least for important things like alias trasfer.
That's what I'm talking about! Anything can be solved without monsterous mechanism like that. Some big aliases's holders wanna power to sell theri aliases? No problem. They ask some dev to implement that. And community agree/disagree with result by their own actions. I see no problem, I'll install such feature. Someone see problem? Well, he start his own Nxt or manages to live without it or even start to find support to disagreement of such dangerous (in his eyes) feature. And market'll decide.

I second this opinion. there has to be a lengthy debate, why we need voting.
did I read somewhere it was connected with the asset exchange!?
hero member
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Yes, like someone else had stated, we just stepped up to do a job that needed to be done.

Yeah, you guys are doing terrific job! Thanks! We truly need something like what you're building.
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Most people you see running the show are actually people who jumped in and started doing things they saw needed doing.

And I respect that Damelon but there is a disdain among contributors here that there should be any source of centralized information or decision-making, which I think gets to the heart of what ZerotheGreat is arguing.

My perspective is that there is only one decision maker right now until the whole shebang is open sourced. That's BCNext. Following him,  Jean-Luc and C-f-b support his overall plan through development of the "core" of NXT.

Everyone else is just a motivated individual that has an interest in NXT and is willing to help in their areas of interest/expertise.

There is plenty of opportunity for motivated and interested individuals to centralize information and coordinate projects outside of the "core".

This is the realist's view. Until all the codes are open-sources, the whole thing belongs to BCNext who is not only anonymous and but also has not said a thing without a messenger since two months ago Grin.
But I believe BCNext has a very strong view toward decentralization. That's I think where we are heading to.

Just to add that: I was not there but I suspect that Bitcoin at the beginning would be kind of similar to where we are now. At first Bitcoin is basically just Satoshi's pet project until the he disappeared and the community took over
newbie
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https://www.facebook.com/nxtcoin - Just joined up, though very small, everyone come join up!

legendary
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GREAT IDEA

1) So the USD would be deposit to this account...by wire transfer or western union etc...

2) to withdraw USD IBC would wire money to the recipient...so they will still be wiretransfer delays & fees

 Edit: would this require serious manpower?

Online Banking has made these transfers very easy, just make sure the Belize Bank you choose offers it. Actually, the bank account does not even have to be with a Belize Bank as long as you find a bank that would be willing to open an account for the IBC and NOT you. It could be in any country... plus the IBC can offer deposits through an online payment service through its merchant account and customers will be able to deposit even with their Debit/Credit Cards. If income is earned outside Belize, there is NO TAX.

Pls explain more how we can do this in a decentralized way ASAP....thank you....also trust how to fix that

edit: we still need to trust the person doing the transfers

I can't think of how a gateway could be decentralized. If there were many gateways and a uber-issuer that spread across multiple gateways, it could approximate that, but it starts getting very complicated.

Did I mention peercover is already a USD gateway. Right now. No need to wait for asset exchange. This is why I know that using ripple gives NXT a strategic edge. All of the fiat regulation is dealt with by the ripple gateways. Any NXT/fiat gateway would need to do all the same sort of things anyway

James
What is needed in order to see NXT/USD in Peercover? NXT/BTC? I am talking about volumes, I may try to set up a market there tomorrow..

This is fantastic news!

There are two primary things that are needed. Sellers and buyers. If there were sellers with decent priced inventory and the buyers knew about it, then a market would automatically form. Of course, a persistent reminder about it won't hurt. Once the volumes are there and the spreads are low, then it will gain momentum on its own.

At first it might need someone to make a market to get the trades going. I would be more than happy to do that, as that is kind of my day job. Anybody can place orders in the orderbook, just need to select the NXT/USD or NXT/BTC pair.

nxtgt made a great howto for this: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2527.0.html
He has also volunteered to send the initial 30XRP needed for ripple accts.

Most important is to get people to just start using ripple. I will be going on a 17 hr bus ride soon, so I doubt I will have any wifi for a while. When I get back online I will be able to actively make a market in all three NXT/XRP, NXT/BTC and NXT/USD.

It does take a bit to get used to ripple, so the best thing everyone can do is just create a ripple acct and start the process. get 30XRP to get your acct activated and follow the howto

James

I have many XRP Wink
And some btc and usd @Stamp..
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Is there any type of leadership in this project that is going to say, X is the official forum. The most authentic information is here at X. Or are we just going to let people blindly navigate this "de-centralized" fairyland because "screw centralization"?

No official forum. You would have to decide for yourself: where do you like to be, who do you want to trust etc. It would be confusing at first, but when you take the red pill and stays in wonderland, you will finally be free.

In the interest of time this is a terrible, terrible idea organizationally and strategically if NXT is to succeed in any sort of meaningful way.

I disagree, but then Bitcoin and NXT would only attract to a certain type of people. For God's sake, we are not a a corporation. You could invest in Facebook if you want that sort of things.

Thanks for the clarification. But NXT is a project, and like any other project known to man it needs cohesion and direction, and a clear source of authentic information that is easy to find for others who want to get involved. Enough with the elitist view on crypto. If it really is "so much more" than Bitcoin, why is it reserved for a select few?

If you want a short answer the you can trust opticalcarrier and his statement earlier, NXT wiki and information in this thread (the first page as a summary). There is no elitist view here. You are very welcome to join the community and nothing can prevent you doing so. The approach is just the way NXT is designed to be.
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Most people you see running the show are actually people who jumped in and started doing things they saw needed doing.

And I respect that Damelon but there is a disdain among contributors here that there should be any source of centralized information or decision-making, which I think gets to the heart of what ZerotheGreat is arguing.

My perspective is that there is only one decision maker right now until the whole shebang is open sourced. That's BCNext. Following him,  Jean-Luc and C-f-b support his overall plan through development of the "core" of NXT.

Everyone else is just a motivated individual that has an interest in NXT and is willing to help in their areas of interest/expertise.

There is plenty of opportunity for motivated and interested individuals to centralize information and coordinate projects outside of the "core".
legendary
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I post a few days ago in nexcoin.org that aws.amazon.com cloud gives 1 year free micro t1 VPS
I have a windows one free and now I added onepaid both with slightly more than 600mb ram. It seems that the nxt nodes run ok on them. I don't have them hallmarked but I thought we run as many like them as we could to support the stability.

It costs 0 for 1 year.
Go make accounts in aws.amazon.com and set up a VPS with nxt node.
You need to modify the web.xml
         myAddress
         PUT THE VPS IP HERE

Don't put money to fogrge just run nxt client.

Just running nxt node (client) with 0 nxt in it will help the stability right?? or am I confused again!!!!

Would be great if you could write up a guide on getting people up and running on AWS. Windows and Linux.
sr. member
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We would need some PR and marketing on big, trusted sites like Yahoo Financials or Financial Times Online or whatever. There is a bounty for it. Does anyone know about someone having the power to do it? The last time, when the price hit it's highest we had some media coverage (and the alias feature added) which helped to get new Nxters on the boat.

Just please don't do it until major bugs are fixed and address checksums are implemented.

Otherwise numerous reports of people losing money will be enough to bury Nxt forever Sad

Agree.
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but trusting and giving up all decisions to a certain specialist who decides everything certainly is.
Why certain specialist (and you meant "black box" mind)? Trusted transparent enough core, if someone start to act weird, community or split up or find/form/merge around another trusted core. It's wotking with any P2P-system.

That is to your friend who you seem to be in an agreement with.
What's your point? I see no scenarios, where P2P-system can grow without built-out center. It can be very big (in amount of people), but still very well bounded and divided from all users of system. And, yes, GVS doesn't solve this problem, after decision was made, someone'd do it, and, say, core dev (if there's still no NxtPolice) simply can go away with personal disagreement. So again: Why?

Which problem can be solved with Global Voting, but can not be solved with actions of people?


Give me your solution to my global voting issue earlier? Any feature similar to the voting system would benefit from a voting system. You don't know what kind of feature is going to be built upon the NXT protocol yet.
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Is there any type of leadership in this project that is going to say, X is the official forum. The most authentic information is here at X. Or are we just going to let people blindly navigate this "de-centralized" fairyland because "screw centralization"?

Im the one behind the whole 'family' of sites in the "NXT Foundation" that 2Kool4Skewl and I conceptualized. That said, I cannot agree with a previous poster that said that forums.nxtcrypto.org are the "official" forums as we do want decentralization here.

We do also want, however, a clear face of representation of NXT to the world, which is why I and 3 other people are cooperating in the "NXT Foundation"  (www, info, and forums host sites under the nxtcrypto.org domain.  I simply admin DNS for the domain so there is as much decentralization as possible)

Graviton was offered the opportunity to change his site over from nextcoin.org to nxtcrypto.org but he elected to control things there as he saw fit, so btc24 at nxtalk.org agreed to cooperate with us and changed his site over to become forums.nxtcrypto.org  - So everyone please use which ever forums you see fit. 

Whatever your personal opinion of Graviton is, it cannot be denied that his exchange and forums were no less than invaluable for spreading NXT.

I might add that the people runnign the individual sites www info and forums are running it out of their own pocket, and I dont believe any of them are original stakeholders (neither am I)

Yes, like someone else had stated, we just stepped up to do a job that needed to be done.

In the interest of time this is a terrible, terrible idea organizationally and strategically if NXT is to succeed in any sort of meaningful way.

you sorely underestimate the amount of time that me and those 3 other people are spending on the info/www/forums sites of nxtcrypto.org.

You just may not be aware of the resources you have available?  visit forums.nxtcrypt.org and start speaking out!
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Announcing the MyNxt.info block explorer

http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer

I thought it would be good to have another option for a block explorer. This one is simpler than the existing block explorer and I intend to keep it this way, but I think it is useful for most tasks.

Features:

- block details
- account details
- transaction details
- latest blocks
- latest transactions

I will be adding block/account/transaction search functionality later today.

It is still pretty much alpha software, I am playing with some of the parameters and changing things but I would appreciate if people could take a look and give me feedback. Let me know if you find any problems/bugs/etc.

Thanks for everyone that tested mynxt.info and helped me find some annoying bugs. I have corrected several of them and made some speed and reliability improvements.

I consider the software now to be Beta, I have created a new forum thread to discuss existing and future features, it can be found here: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2607.0.html
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I post a few days ago in nexcoin.org that aws.amazon.com cloud gives 1 year free micro t1 VPS
I have a windows one free and now I added onepaid both with slightly more than 600mb ram. It seems that the nxt nodes run ok on them. I don't have them hallmarked but I thought we run as many like them as we could to support the stability.

It costs 0 for 1 year.
Go make accounts in aws.amazon.com and set up a VPS with nxt node.
You need to modify the web.xml
         myAddress
         PUT THE VPS IP HERE

Don't put money to fogrge just run nxt client.

Just running nxt node (client) with 0 nxt in it will help the stability right?? or am I confused again!!!!

Nice!?!
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