NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1818.

jl777

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Quote from: nxtgt on January 06, 2014, 11:25:08 AM

Anyone know how long it takes for NXT to be deposited in the Peercover gateway?

Usually 10 confirmations, they are having a bit of problem with the server not catching up to latest block. It is being looked into. If you see your funds in the blockchain website, then it is just a matter of their server to catch up and then credit your ripple wallet.

Many apologies for delays.

James

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NXT is the future

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 06, 2014, 04:15:09 PM

Quote from: marcus03 on January 06, 2014, 04:04:00 PM

I've asked before in the API thread, but got no answer that I was able to understand:

It is said that an account that has no public key in the BC yet (no outgoing transactions) is more prone to a brute force attack.

Could anyone explan why? I don't get it. My idea is that a brute force attack works like this: dictionary words or random input generates a public and private key pair, the later being the account number. I see no difference in the chances of finding an existing account number, when using this procedure, depending on if the public key is in the bc or not.

To avoid a situation similar to Bitcoin when we don't know if Satoshi lost his keys or just waiting for 1 BTC = 1000000 USD price. In Nxt, if someone doesn't reveal his public key even in 5 years, we can guess that he lost the key (or has balls of steel).

luckely didnt lost his balls but the keys

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 06, 2014, 04:15:09 PM

Quote from: marcus03 on January 06, 2014, 04:04:00 PM

I've asked before in the API thread, but got no answer that I was able to understand:

It is said that an account that has no public key in the BC yet (no outgoing transactions) is more prone to a brute force attack.

Could anyone explan why? I don't get it. My idea is that a brute force attack works like this: dictionary words or random input generates a public and private key pair, the later being the account number. I see no difference in the chances of finding an existing account number, when using this procedure, depending on if the public key is in the bc or not.

To avoid a situation similar to Bitcoin when we don't know if Satoshi lost his keys or just waiting for 1 BTC = 1000000 USD price. In Nxt, if someone doesn't reveal his public key even in 5 years, we can guess that he lost the key (or has balls of steel).

Or maybe he just thinks is like bitcoin.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: marcus03 on January 06, 2014, 04:04:00 PM

I've asked before in the API thread, but got no answer that I was able to understand:

It is said that an account that has no public key in the BC yet (no outgoing transactions) is more prone to a brute force attack.

Could anyone explan why? I don't get it. My idea is that a brute force attack works like this: dictionary words or random input generates a public and private key pair, the later being the account number. I see no difference in the chances of finding an existing account number, when using this procedure, depending on if the public key is in the bc or not.

To avoid a situation similar to Bitcoin when we don't know if Satoshi lost his keys or just waiting for 1 BTC = 1000000 USD price. In Nxt, if someone doesn't reveal his public key even in 5 years, we can guess that he lost the key (or has balls of steel).

wakasaki808

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Quote from: gbeirn on January 06, 2014, 04:09:30 PM

Quote from: rickyjames on January 06, 2014, 02:51:36 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 06, 2014, 02:34:46 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 06, 2014, 02:32:24 PM

Quote from: nxtuser on January 06, 2014, 02:31:49 PM

Can someone perhaps provide rough estimates on number of darkNXT accounts and their total amount?

~250M @ 1000+ accounts.

Edit: U should start from one with almost 50M on it.

Holy crap, that is a LOT.

holy crap that IS a lot.

You're saying that a quarter of all NXT is permanently out of circulation only a couple of months after it was minted in the Genesis Block? Huh

That sounds, um, kinda serious to me. I have obviously missed something. What's the story on this again? And which account has the 50M in it?

It makes all the available NXT move valuable plus it's a great marketing tool (Sign up and use NXT and possibly unlock an account with money already in it!!).

It's like a gambling game...with no fee Tongue

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Quote from: rickyjames on January 06, 2014, 02:51:36 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 06, 2014, 02:34:46 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 06, 2014, 02:32:24 PM

Quote from: nxtuser on January 06, 2014, 02:31:49 PM

Can someone perhaps provide rough estimates on number of darkNXT accounts and their total amount?

~250M @ 1000+ accounts.

Edit: U should start from one with almost 50M on it.

Holy crap, that is a LOT.

holy crap that IS a lot.

You're saying that a quarter of all NXT is permanently out of circulation only a couple of months after it was minted in the Genesis Block? Huh

That sounds, um, kinda serious to me. I have obviously missed something. What's the story on this again? And which account has the 50M in it?

It makes all the available NXT move valuable plus it's a great marketing tool (Sign up and use NXT and possibly unlock an account with money already in it!!).

fmiboy

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note about exchange:

has anyone heard about The Invisible Internet Project (I2P) (http://geti2p.net/)?

apparently, there are number of projects we can get started with...

one of them: DarkExchange, open source - p2p decentralized exchange https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beta-dark-exchange-a-100-decentralized-p2p-exchange-26063 uses I2P layer

has Bitcoin and Namecoin listed, we can fork and add NXT also alter some changes... But it is in "clojure programming language" which I have never heard of, if it was in c/c++ possible I could have made some changes myself... anyone knows this language and can change the code?

this exchange headaches would be solved all for good...

bitcoinpaul

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Quote from: Tompa on January 06, 2014, 04:03:16 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: martismartis on January 06, 2014, 03:10:29 PM

Stupid question: is it possible to send x amount of NXT from account A to account A? In other words to send NXT for myself?

Yes ...and you SHOULD do that if you have NO outgoing transactions!

Edit: 1 NXT will suffice.

Does registering an Alias counts? Will that suffice?

Yes.

marcus03

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I've asked before in the API thread, but got no answer that I was able to understand:

It is said that an account that has no public key in the BC yet (no outgoing transactions) is more prone to a brute force attack.

Could anyone explan why? I don't get it. My idea is that a brute force attack works like this: dictionary words or random input generates a public and private key pair, the later being the account number. I see no difference in the chances of finding an existing account number, when using this procedure, depending on if the public key is in the bc or not.

Tompa

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: martismartis on January 06, 2014, 03:10:29 PM

Stupid question: is it possible to send x amount of NXT from account A to account A? In other words to send NXT for myself?

Yes ...and you SHOULD do that if you have NO outgoing transactions!

Edit: 1 NXT will suffice.

Does registering an Alias counts? Will that suffice?

opticalcarrier

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on January 06, 2014, 03:52:13 PM

Quote from: bahamapascal on January 06, 2014, 03:38:31 PM

LOL, do I understand that right....250M Nxt are lost (at-least fore now)?

No.

Right. No as in not necessarily. See my previous post a few up detailing the different cases.

opticalcarrier

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Quote from: nexern on January 06, 2014, 03:37:44 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 06, 2014, 02:35:59 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 06, 2014, 02:34:46 PM

holy crap that is a LOT. OK, can we get some darkNXT tracking built into blockexplorer and into API?

Good idea. Is someone going to do that? API already lets to get the data.

can add it, how to calculate? loop all accounts for empty publicKey + sum?
any additional filter or key to seperate real dark from just inactivity?

Yes, anything with NXT but no public key should be totalled. Maybe the page would list all dark accounts, with the sum at top and below it a list of all the accounts and their balances?

I guess we're going with the term "darkNXT"? I kinda like hiberNXT or frozeNXT

bitcoinpaul

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Quote from: bahamapascal on January 06, 2014, 03:38:31 PM

LOL, do I understand that right....250M Nxt are lost (at-least fore now)?

No.

idev

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Quote from: niothor on January 06, 2014, 03:46:11 PM

Quote from: Isildur23 on January 06, 2014, 03:28:54 PM

Quote from: chanc3r on January 06, 2014, 03:06:56 PM

Quote from: pinarello on January 06, 2014, 02:38:12 PM

Quote from: idev on January 06, 2014, 02:20:30 PM

Who knew that Come-From-Beyond had a twin brother called Come-from-Beyiond Cheesy

you forget his other brother code-from-behind, and half sister, codeine-from-beyond

don't forget Come-from-Beyonce

And, of course, Cum-from-Beyond!

Cum-on-Beyonce is better!

Indeed.

niothor

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in defi we trust

Quote from: Isildur23 on January 06, 2014, 03:28:54 PM

Quote from: chanc3r on January 06, 2014, 03:06:56 PM

Quote from: pinarello on January 06, 2014, 02:38:12 PM

Quote from: idev on January 06, 2014, 02:20:30 PM

Who knew that Come-From-Beyond had a twin brother called Come-from-Beyiond Cheesy

you forget his other brother code-from-behind, and half sister, codeine-from-beyond

don't forget Come-from-Beyonce

And, of course, Cum-from-Beyond!

Cum-on-Beyonce is better!

idev

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Quote from: chanc3r on January 06, 2014, 03:06:56 PM

Quote from: pinarello on January 06, 2014, 02:38:12 PM

Quote from: idev on January 06, 2014, 02:20:30 PM

Who knew that Come-From-Beyond had a twin brother called Come-from-Beyiond Cheesy

you forget his other brother code-from-behind, and half sister, codeine-from-beyond

don't forget Come-from-Beyonce

I would love to Come-from-Beyonce. Grin

chanc3r

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Quote from: Isildur23 on January 06, 2014, 03:28:54 PM

Quote from: chanc3r on January 06, 2014, 03:06:56 PM

Quote from: pinarello on January 06, 2014, 02:38:12 PM

Quote from: idev on January 06, 2014, 02:20:30 PM

Who knew that Come-From-Beyond had a twin brother called Come-from-Beyiond Cheesy

you forget his other brother code-from-behind, and half sister, codeine-from-beyond

don't forget Come-from-Beyonce

And, of course, Cum-from-Beyond!

erm liquid NXT?

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 06, 2014, 02:32:24 PM

Quote from: nxtuser on January 06, 2014, 02:31:49 PM

So with darkNXT out there has anyone thought already about mining it?

I have some thoughts on how to do this from the technical standpoint but don't really know if it's profitable. Can someone perhaps provide rough estimates on number of darkNXT accounts and their total amount?

~250M @ 1000+ accounts.

Edit: U should start from one with almost 50M on it.

LOL, do I understand that right....250M Nxt are lost (at-least fore now)?
How do you know they are lost and not just send to the account number as "offline wallet"?

nexern

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 06, 2014, 02:35:59 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 06, 2014, 02:34:46 PM

holy crap that is a LOT. OK, can we get some darkNXT tracking built into blockexplorer and into API?

Good idea. Is someone going to do that? API already lets to get the data.

can add it, how to calculate? loop all accounts for empty publicKey + sum?
any additional filter or key to seperate real dark from just inactivity?

rickyjames

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Quote from: Isildur23 on January 06, 2014, 03:28:54 PM

Quote from: chanc3r on January 06, 2014, 03:06:56 PM

Quote from: pinarello on January 06, 2014, 02:38:12 PM

Quote from: idev on January 06, 2014, 02:20:30 PM

Who knew that Come-From-Beyond had a twin brother called Come-from-Beyiond Cheesy

you forget his other brother code-from-behind, and half sister, codeine-from-beyond

don't forget Come-from-Beyonce

And, of course, Cum-from-Beyond!

This will be aliased within the next 20 posts. But not by me.

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