Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1819. (Read 2761624 times)
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you forget his other brother code-from-behind, and half sister, codeine-from-beyond
don't forget Come-from-Beyonce
And, of course, Cum-from-Beyond!
you forget his other brother code-from-behind, and half sister, codeine-from-beyond
don't forget Come-from-Beyonce
Perhaps we should ask the initial stakeholders to send 1 nxt to a specific account within a week, to know that these accounts are alive.
If they are not, we can assume they are darkNxt... and take appropriate action?
If they are not, we can assume they are darkNxt... and take appropriate action?
We can't assume that (they might be on a beach somewhere spending their already-cash-in nxt), and I don't think there's any action we can/should take anyway...
When I last checked, there were only two direct-from-genesis accounts that still hadn't got a public key (and only one of those was sizeable).
Eh? I think we're working off different definitions of darkNXT!
- NXT that is in an account that nobody knows the passphrase of == darkNXT
- NXT that is in an account that hasn't yet got a public key in the block chain (i.e. no transfers out, no aliases, no forging) != darkNXT
That 250million figure is including the latter, right? No way to distinguish between the two from a technical point of view.
I think you are confusing things, there are 2 different possibilities:
NXT sitting in an account that does not have a public key in the blockchain.
NXT sitting in an account that has a public key in the blockchain, but where the passphrase/privatekey is lost.
The former is "hiberNXT" and most will probably be recovered some day (2^64)
The latter one is truly "dead" and will prob never ever never be recovered (2^256)
Also, the former can be broken into 2 categories:
An account where a person does know a passphrase to unlock it (one of 2^256 private keys, but still crackable by 2^64 since there is no public key published). This was done by a person wishing to stash their NXT somewhere; I would consider this to be dumb; the account should publish its public key so as to not be crackable by 2^64 and to obtain 2^256 security. The person knowing that passphrase can still unlock the account and send the NXT.
An account where a person does NOT know a passphrase to unlock it. In this case nothing cand be done until the account is cracked in a few years.
Well, we can't distinguish from both all the time. Account# 111111111 is certainly first case, #43742738484638 maybe first or second. So what is the term darkNXT for actually?
That's true - some accounts definitely contain darkNXT (111111111, 1, 100000).
Also, if it is proven there is a bug in the nxt software that causes nxt to be sent to the wrong address, and if the form of this bug is such that we can determine whether a particular transfer was/wasn't a bug, then we can probably identify more darkNXT. That's unlikely though.
Perhaps we should ask the initial stakeholders to send 1 nxt to a specific account within a week, to know that these accounts are alive.
If they are not, we can assume they are darkNxt... and take appropriate action?
If they are not, we can assume they are darkNxt... and take appropriate action?
Stupid question: is it possible to send x amount of NXT from account A to account A? In other words to send NXT for myself? 
Eh? I think we're working off different definitions of darkNXT!
- NXT that is in an account that nobody knows the passphrase of == darkNXT
- NXT that is in an account that hasn't yet got a public key in the block chain (i.e. no transfers out, no aliases, no forging) != darkNXT
That 250million figure is including the latter, right? No way to distinguish between the two from a technical point of view.
- NXT that is in an account that nobody knows the passphrase of == darkNXT
- NXT that is in an account that hasn't yet got a public key in the block chain (i.e. no transfers out, no aliases, no forging) != darkNXT
That 250million figure is including the latter, right? No way to distinguish between the two from a technical point of view.
So we have dumbNXT and darkNXT now?
Well, we can't distinguish from both all the time. Account# 111111111 is certainly first case, #43742738484638 maybe first or second. So what is the term darkNXT for actually?
you forget his other brother code-from-behind, and half sister, codeine-from-beyond
don't forget Come-from-Beyonce
Can someone perhaps provide rough estimates on number of darkNXT accounts and their total amount?
~250M @ 1000+ accounts.
Edit: U should start from one with almost 50M on it.
Holy crap, that is a LOT.
holy crap that IS a lot.
You're saying that a quarter of all NXT is permanently out of circulation only a couple of months after it was minted in the Genesis Block?
That sounds, um, kinda serious to me. I have obviously missed something. What's the story on this again? And which account has the 50M in it?
Eh? I think we're working off different definitions of darkNXT!
- NXT that is in an account that nobody knows the passphrase of == darkNXT
- NXT that is in an account that hasn't yet got a public key in the block chain (i.e. no transfers out, no aliases, no forging) != darkNXT
That 250million figure is including the latter, right? No way to distinguish between the two from a technical point of view.
Can someone perhaps provide rough estimates on number of darkNXT accounts and their total amount?
~250M @ 1000+ accounts.
Edit: U should start from one with almost 50M on it.
Holy crap, that is a LOT.
holy crap that IS a lot.
You're saying that a quarter of all NXT is permanently out of circulation only a couple of months after it was minted in the Genesis Block?
That sounds, um, kinda serious to me. I have obviously missed something. What's the story on this again? And which account has the 50M in it?
I think, he just meant 250M are in accounts with no public address.
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Works fine, fast and free atm... A+
just need some more volume that is all.
Pin
If voting is still open...
rickyjames (Nxtville Sheriff)
Category: Giveaways
Project : Pursuit of EpicThomas
rickyjames (Nxtville Sheriff)
Category: Giveaways
Project : Pursuit of EpicThomas
Debuggers:
Ricot, ImmortAlex, FrictionlessCoin
Ricot, ImmortAlex, FrictionlessCoin
wtf
hey he is working full time for NXT
Numbers more closely to multiples of 50 million:
again, without dgex accounts added.
Quote
51,189,348 is owned by 1 accounts
101,194,537 is owned by 2 accounts
151,072,364 is owned by 3 accounts
228,626,667 is owned by 5 accounts
255,359,863 is owned by 6 accounts
307,218,909 is owned by 8 accounts
358,888,187 is owned by 11 accounts
411,719,731 is owned by 15 accounts
455,177,139 is owned by 19 accounts
504,908,228 is owned by 24 accounts
551,807,211 is owned by 29 accounts
602,199,198 is owned by 35 accounts
651,455,247 is owned by 43 accounts
700,721,264 is owned by 54 accounts
750,533,260 is owned by 76 accounts
800,590,952 is owned by 120 accounts
850,100,705 is owned by 192 accounts
900,030,899 is owned by 538 accounts
101,194,537 is owned by 2 accounts
151,072,364 is owned by 3 accounts
228,626,667 is owned by 5 accounts
255,359,863 is owned by 6 accounts
307,218,909 is owned by 8 accounts
358,888,187 is owned by 11 accounts
411,719,731 is owned by 15 accounts
455,177,139 is owned by 19 accounts
504,908,228 is owned by 24 accounts
551,807,211 is owned by 29 accounts
602,199,198 is owned by 35 accounts
651,455,247 is owned by 43 accounts
700,721,264 is owned by 54 accounts
750,533,260 is owned by 76 accounts
800,590,952 is owned by 120 accounts
850,100,705 is owned by 192 accounts
900,030,899 is owned by 538 accounts
again, without dgex accounts added.
Debuggers:
Ricot, ImmortAlex, FrictionlessCoin
Ricot, ImmortAlex, FrictionlessCoin
That is a DISGRACE!?!?!
FC might well be one of the most annoying trolls ever, but I seem to recall (somewhere in the source bug threads) that he did make a useful contribution or two.
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