Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1916. (Read 2761645 times)

uh oh

The same happened to me twice, also on nextcoin.org forum few people also reported about this.

What can i say? Nothing good.

What is the maximum number of characters for an Nxt passphrase?

AN OPEN MESSAGE TO EPIC THOMAS:  

Oh, man, don't make me do this to you.  You and I could be good friends.  You are trying so hard to stay on the right side of the line.  Times are rough for you and you have had a crappy 2013 and a crappy Christmas and yet despite your occasional flare of cynicism you also have great optimism and hope inside you.  I understand how the temptation was hard to resist for you to go after those NXT like you did.  But you come from a great family who loves you and you deeply admire superheroes and you've got a wonderful girlfriend and you're working so hard to get credentials to rise above these crappy jobs you bounce around between like a pinball.  

DO NOT LOSE WHAT YOU HAVE.  YOU CAN USE IT TO ACHIEVE GREAT THINGS IN 2014.

Very soon now you and I are going to step it up here to the next level and go the next few rounds toe to toe.  Do not take this personally.  This is just business.  I want very much for NXT to succeed and I will act to protect its fragile reputation.  I do not want to hurt you.  But if you do not return the NXT you have taken, you are going to lose the respect of your family who loves you (both young and old),  you are going to hurt and be torn away from the girlfriend you love,  you are going to lose your job, you are going to get kicked out of school and lose your ability to climb the ladder of success whose bottom runs you have achieved, and you are going to be in trouble with the law.

Do not make me do this to you.

The road back starts with making contact with me either in these forums or by personal message.  You may very well not be able to return those NXT but if that is so then I am sure you know who can.  You need to either convince them to return the NXT or tell me their name and let me at them.  Do not go down solo in an attempt to protect them.  It will not work and it is not worth it.

The NXT in the bandit accounts are of no use to you.  You cannot cash them.  Do not hurt others by abandoning that NXT and keeping it from the others that have a dream just like you do.  That will only hurt innocent people that do not deserve it.  Return those NXT to their rightful owners.  That is what Superman would do.  That is what Batman would do.  That is what the good Doctor Who would do.

It is almost midnight UTC (Thursday night - Friday Morning) as I write this.  I am going to give you 24 more hours to return the NXT or convince somebody else to do so.  If the NXT is not transferred back by this time tomorrow, I am going to start making some phone calls.  They will not initially be to the police.  If I cannot convince you to do the right thing, I am going to give some other people who care about you a chance to do so.  If you don't listen to them, I will call your employer.  When you no longer have a job, I will call your school and get you kicked out of that.  Then I will call the police.  We will be at that point about this time next week.

Do not let this situation go that far.  End this the right way.  You know how.  You can do it.

That's it, I've had my say.  If you do not contact me via PM or re-enter the forums here with a cooperative spirit in the next 24 hours, then I have only one thing left to say to you:

Goodbye.

Is it known at which time the source code will be released???   

Could you clarify it? I haven't had a chance to dig deep into Nxt internals yet...

There's another thing just happened - somebody requested withdrawal and I started sending it, and as soon as I clicked "send", the screen started flooding with what seemed like repeated previous transactions and my balance instantly dropped by 2000. And I also noticed like "1100 unconfirmed transactions" in the bottom window.

I immediately locked the account and disconnected. Java process freezed and didn't respond to Ctrl-C.

Now looking at block explorer - it seems nothing happened.

My client is the same as the clean one.

But now I am scared as hell to open the client again. If this is so buggy, how can we work with real money yet??? It should have been test net all along!

This account hasn't been opened edit:hasn't spent any funds since the deposit and this post as there is no public key associated with it:

http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getAccountPublicKey&account=434692873790144579

returns NIL:

{}

Check the integrity of your client first. Compare the checksum hash256 of the zip file to the one in the first page. If it matches, then you're safe.

I moved all my funds to be sure. I can't tell whether my older client was hacked. Moving funds costs 1 NXT - peanuts.

is the real name of EpicThomas already known?
I suggest, that he returns twice the NXT he stole within a week.
otherwise the police hitmen should take over.

whats the status CfB are we all supposed to create new accounts and send our money over there even if we had the original 0.4.8 client just because earlier clients could have been hacked too or is it for the paranoid only?

i know its up to me, but what other members have done? share your pick. its a bit costly to send them to a new acct..

If I knew it would take so many hours, I wouldn't have done it, but friends, I've finally finished updating Translators Sheet in the Googledoc:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=8

Section is divided by languages, I added a lot of Nxt acc numbers, checked Wikis and added people from there. Then I checked all posts (!) from all mentioned translators (!!) and added links to the translated texts... (there is also one little joke :-)

Don't forget about updating your Nxt acc if you had moved

It would be nice to have Wiki translated into many languages, we are expecting many newbies here soon, so instructions are:
http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Help_translate

- everyone is welcomed

I will try to update this sheet every month, but others can also update it themselves There is a section for every week in the month, so just put there a link to your translations....  

I couldn't agree more. Clients, usuability etc. will be made on TOP of the system that in itself is where the potential lies.
If you would take the case off of a TV, car or computer, most normal consumers wouldn't buy it, yet it's exactly the unseen part that makes the thing function and where the biggest part of it's value lies.

Nxt's principles are sound. I cannot judge the quality of coding, as I don't have enough knowledge there. However, I cán judge the amount of sheer hard work and dedication that is going into the project. If people say it must be crap because it is funded with only 21 BTC, I invite them to consider the term "sweat equity". We have an ample amount of that.

This echoes my sentiments.

I think a lot of the detractors are seeing this the wrong way. It seems to me that they're looking to invest in a shiny product that does shiny things out of the box (and will continually be updated to do even shinier things). That shinyness is not for themselves, but for the public, who for the most part are attracted to shiny things. They hope that if the public eventually buy into a lot of shiny NXT, the value of their own NXT, bought much earlier at much lower prices, will jump tremendously. They are also thinking of the launch as when this shiny product gets shipped out to people.

But personally, that's not what I looked at when I bought into NXT a few days ago. I saw a remarkable set of principles like decentralization (not just of software and hardware running the NXT protocols, but also of the ability for people to get NXT), security, proof of stake, trust in mathematical algorithms instead of human institutions for handling transactions, NXT as not just a currency but an ecosystem of services. And most importantly of all IMO, freedom. From reading this thread, I see a lot of people, including the devs, who believed in these principles, enough so that they would risk their $ when this was a much less certain thing. And who now also give out, with no strings attached, the now valuable NXT to compensate theft victims and get new people interested in NXT.

From these principles are founded the features, and protocols that support these features. (Much smarter folks in this thread who are familiar with all this, so I won't go into them.) The launch is not a traditional launch in the sense of opening a store or shipping out the first boxes. It really is about making the source code, the instructions that make NXT work, publicly available, so that people (with the knowledge and skills) can verify that NXT is indeed doing what the devs claim it does, and indeed keeping to the principles that it is founded on. And also increasing public awareness about NXT.


I think people didn't focus as much on the principles of usability and accessibility early on, seemed like they felt that it was more important to get the other principles (and consequent features) right first. But certainly we do believe in usability, the alias system is an example of that. And more and more people here (including myself) are talking about the user-friendliness and idiot-proofness of the client. I fully expect these features to similarly become a reality, starting from the principles.


Basically, I invested in people and their principles, rather than the product. To me the product is a consequence of the people and principles, and I think with this group of people (not just the devs, but including the community of stakeholders), there will be an excellent product, much shinier than anything we have so far. And, again from reading the thread, I think a lot of people share my feelings. I'm glad to be with good company here.


So for potential investors: If you just want to invest in a shiny product, maybe wait a while for that product (in particular the client) to shape up first before you decide. If you want to invest in people and principles, you don't have to wait to decide, read through this thread and take a look at the people and principles for yourselves.

EDIT: Sorry, not just this thread, also the original thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.140

Account number was completely different, there is absolutely no chance of typo, especially since I just copy-paste them.

And such long number couldn't just happen to be accidentally in my clipboard. And that I also missed that it changed. I always double-check everything and very careful. Don't you think it would be easy to notice that something like 17828278889143303730 changed into 434692873790144579 right under my eyes?

Any of these things can be easily implemented by the client software. Query the blockchain to see an account balance and present a warning if balance is zero, double enter passphrase to send, etc. Just need someone to write the software to do so.

i think there is need to have the client warn for sending money over to zero accounts as others have pointed out.

as a side note i will at some point build a service that i can't disclose for nxt , im just saying this cause its a celebration day

Similar description to Framewood's problem. Was that ever confirmed as the same (or similar) hack to PaulyC etc?

Is the account you wanted to transfer the money to similar to that account you actually did the transfer? Then it was probably your mistake.
And there is no way to find the key to the account. If there were a way, nxt accounts would not be safe.

Love it, marcus03. I imagine Bitcoin community at the beginning would also have this kind of attitude. Bitcoin have at least 3 main clients, so I don't see why NXT does not have several ones. The more diverse, the better. that is the only way we can compete squarely with Bitcoin cartel.