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legendary
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Is anyone going to use Arbitrary Messages within next 2 weeks? It seems to me that without a client that supports this feature we don't need AM.

I realy do respect your work sir, but without a client you better stop loosing your time here.

No one will bother using API strings etc... no client = no product.

and yes eMunie is a finished product that will blow all your efforts away just becaus you will always be second!

Stop trolling.  eMu is controlled and developed by one person, Dan, who will keep the project closed source for at least a year.  It's not decentralized and new eMu can be created on a whim without any knowledge as to why or how.  The client is going to be delayed for at least another month or two, at which time Nxt will have a # of functional clients.
hero member
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Simcoin Developer
Guys, something weird happened!

Either I screwed up big or maybe it's some bug?

I've sent today 14699 NXT to a customer in response for his withdrawal request, but money went into another account #434692873790144579 (tx 4799337629054063359).

So are there any checks for validity of addresses or can it be absolutely any number?

Anybody owns this account by any chance?

The weird thing is I am very careful and I do copy-paste from the form that my backend shows me. I have no idea where this erroneous number could appear from, because there are no users with such number in my database. There are no passwords, or accounts with that number which I could have accidentally copied. All my passwords and phrases are alphanumeric.

My client is 0.4.8 and has correct hash (I checked after reports today).

So how could this happen???

If it was a mistake, I guess there is no chance to find a key for this account? Smiley

Still, I absolutely can't understand, how, during a simple copy-paste, this could have happened...
sr. member
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I can't comment much on technical side, But wesley's implementation of Chrome and Firefox plugin are

Chrome : nxt space alias and
Firefox : nxt : alias

I personally prefer nxt space alias and also nxt : alias cannot be implemented in chrome so I left it nxt space alias as an universal approach.

That's great, and regarding what a user enters into a browser we do have to work within some constraints already set, but aliases have the potential to be more than just a replacement for a single web URL. At least, the ability to define email address, web address, and nxt account ID in a single alias (or one alias acting as a bundle referencing three other aliases that each reference a single target), would be attractive.
hero member
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everyone please note the www.nxtcrypto.org that has been MUCH improved in the last 2 days.  QBTC@nextcoin has worked hard on it and is paying for hosting out of pocket, I hope she gets some bounty for it and to keep it running.

I think its in good shape for launch now.  As soon as CfB/JLC comes across with the source it will be posted there as well.

We NEED an official homepage and this one seems pretty good. How can we ensure that people won´t get fooled over there?
hero member
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OOOh looks like we have a troll...please can I keep him?



Only if u promise to walk it every day,  teach it to spell and clean out its cage.
sr. member
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Internet of Value
I can't comment much on technical side, But wesley's implementation of Chrome and Firefox plugin are

Chrome : nxt space alias and
Firefox : nxt : alias

I personally prefer nxt space alias and also nxt : alias cannot be implemented in chrome so I left it nxt space alias as an universal approach.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
everyone please note the www.nxtcrypto.org that has been MUCH improved in the last 2 days.  QBTC@nextcoin has worked hard on it and is paying for hosting out of pocket, I hope she gets some bounty for it and to keep it running.

I think its in good shape for launch now.  As soon as CfB/JLC comes across with the source it will be posted there as well.
sr. member
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5. We also need some kind of agreement on the json syntax and other new features.

My strategy is to just start defining stuff and implementing. If someone doesn't like the format, they're free to implement it differently.  History has shown that adoption is the best form of "agreement". Let the market decide.


Folks - just wondering if there is any update in the alias syntax that you guys are adopting for the various browser extensions/add-ons, nxt clients, etc.

The worst outcome would be two or more conflicting approaches, with an alias definition working in one browser extension but not another. I could no longer give my 'notsoshifty' alias out to people with any confidence that it would be useful to him. Regardless of whether one approach eventually becomes dominant, the real losers would be the alias concept itself, and its (non-)users.

So I am keen for some consensus. No need for official sanctioning, but some peer review/discussion would probably be beneficial.

For instance, as an alias user I would like to be able to define an alias as any of:
 - A simple standard URL, such as 'http://example.com'
 - A simple nxt-specific URL that references a nxt account, such as 'acct:123456789'
 - A nxt-specific URL that bundles a number of other URLs (ideas for formats as previously discussed)

And although the network doesn't insist upon it, c-f-b's idea that an alias should always reference a URL seems sound. So rather than '123456789' it should be 'acct:123456789' (or whatever).


As a side question: one important feature for nxt is the ability to send funds to a named alias rather than a number. I can see this being implemented in two ways:

1. Purely client side. The client looks up the alias to get the account ID, and then creates a transaction with that account (not alias) as the recipient
2. Within network/API. The client creates a transaction with the alias as the recipient, and the network (i.e. forging node, and other nodes through validation) translates the alias into an account id at time of forging

The second seems to me to be cleaner and preferred. Example: a transaction might take hours to get processed, and what's important is the account that the alias corresponds to at the time it gets processed, not when it is initially shoved into the network.

However, this would require API changes. And so any URI conventions that are adopted by browser extensions/addons would need to be adopted into the API.




sr. member
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So I received 36K NXT from 2 contributors to help reimburse people. I already fully reimbursed PaulyC from my own account. That leaves:

13643712185318669838  contains 100088 NXT taken from Framewood's   697109629372813510 
15182566201738727933  contains 18665 NXT taken from plasticAiredale's    8439060069775407509         
9793828175536096502   contains 18197 NXT taken from newcn's   16886318053889080545   
12152013998194592943  contains  147690 NXT  taken from sparta_cuss's  11794318797680953099 

Total of 284640NXT.
Framewood: 35.16%
plasticAiredals: 6.56%
newcn: 6.39%
sparta_cuss: 51.89%

I guess the fairest way would be to split them up proportional to what you lost, so:

Framewood: 12658NXT
plasticAiredals: 2362NXT
newcn: 2300NXT
sparta_cuss: 18680NXT

Please post addresses so I can send you NXT.

I still need addresses for newcn and sparta_cuss Smiley

Thank you, gbeirn, and thank you, too, neer.g, and xyzzyx each for donating out of your own pocket for the reimbursement.
(Address is in signature.)

Thank you to all the hands on deck sorting this mess out.

rickyjames, I'll be sending you a few thousand NXT out of my own pocket as a thank you.

To the detractors who have appeared today, remember that no project needs to be (nor can be) perfect out of the gate, but it must be resilient. And I think this NXT team is.
full member
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NXT is the future

This is a brilliant community, I am sure before tomorrow we have a solution.


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full member
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NXT is the future
OOOh looks like we have a troll...please can I keep him?


edit: yaaayk I missed page 666

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legendary
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5) You sir, you have no clue...

And when we (investors) have don selling this webpage with four icons is worth 0.0000001

Development is one thing, having a product for mass adoption is another you all have zilth,0

LAUNCH yes launch was 3th of januari, shame on the birthday of 5 year bitcoin. The idea was genius, but putting it toghetter a disaster, how can anyone start something pure code without a client...

soory had your chance I will go to the first that delivers me something and as of now NXT is far away from delivering something usefull for the common people.


Oooh, look! AN INVESTOR!

You stand to investor as a community security officer stands to policeman.
Did you bring your clip-on tie?

Seriously. You are quite ludicrous, sunshine. Smiley

If you don't like Nxt, fine, go somewhere else. If you do, invest or do something constructive.
legendary
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Merit: 1217
All right all right the guy has a point.... but then he wrote


soory had your chance I will go to the first that delivers me something and as of now NXT is far away from delivering something usefull for the common people.


Yeah................... as if Bitcoin is any different........ even 5 years later...........

Not to defend that troll who makes really bad arguments but bitcoin has made doing business over the internet much easier than it used to be for me atleast. The blockchain android app hit the ball out of the park. It's so much easier, cheaper and safer to pay for things using that app than it is with a credit card. And not having to worry about charge-backs when I sell something is huge.
sr. member
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I don't really come from outer space.
As in close my browser? I'm on a mac. I've tried ctrl + reload and that does not work Sad

The browser is separate; it's just an interface -- just like your browser is seperate and just an interface to the bitcointalk forums.

You need to shut down the java process.  I'm not on a Mac so I don't know how you'd do it exactly.

Are you using the NXT for Mac package?  Could you point me to the download link of what you're using?  I make no promises, but I'll take a look at it if you point the way.
full member
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Why not open source and get some help from other coders?

I'm coding in Delphi, because this is what I did for years, so I'm good at it and I use commercial 3rd party components, so I can't distribute the complete source code anyway and anyone who would want to compile the source would need to spend roundabout 2000 US$ on these components.

hero member
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Btw, I am currently developing a closed-source Windows client.

Why not open source and get some help from other coders?
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
It is not a good strategy to put the success or failure of a 100 million usd project in the hands of one person... If nextern can't deliver the client for whatever reason, there is no chance for a mass adoption. And the other projects are also developing. Like the asset exchange for btc announced today.

Btw, I am currently developing a closed-source Windows client. Right now, I am working on the blockchain explorer part, since this is what I want personally, but eventually it will have all mainstream features like seen in the web client. It might not be the silver bullet, but it might suit some. I will post when I have something to show and download.

I would really like to see others starting developement of other clients and less nexern bashing.


Can´t wait to see your client! But why do we need more clients? Why not unite our force and work on one, badass client?
full member
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So I received 36K NXT from 2 contributors to help reimburse people. I already fully reimbursed PaulyC from my own account. That leaves:

13643712185318669838  contains 100088 NXT taken from Framewood's   697109629372813510 
15182566201738727933  contains 18665 NXT taken from plasticAiredale's    8439060069775407509         
9793828175536096502   contains 18197 NXT taken from newcn's   16886318053889080545   
12152013998194592943  contains  147690 NXT  taken from sparta_cuss's  11794318797680953099 

Total of 284640NXT.
Framewood: 35.16%
plasticAiredals: 6.56%
newcn: 6.39%
sparta_cuss: 51.89%

I guess the fairest way would be to split them up proportional to what you lost, so:

Framewood: 12658NXT
plasticAiredals: 2362NXT
newcn: 2300NXT
sparta_cuss: 18680NXT

Please post addresses so I can send you NXT.

I still need addresses for newcn and sparta_cuss Smiley
hero member
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Unlimited Free Crypto
All right all right the guy has a point.... but then he wrote


soory had your chance I will go to the first that delivers me something and as of now NXT is far away from delivering something usefull for the common people.


Yeah................... as if Bitcoin is any different........ even 5 years later...........
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
It is not a good strategy to put the success or failure of a 100 million usd project in the hands of one person... If nextern can't deliver the client for whatever reason, there is no chance for a mass adoption. And the other projects are also developing. Like the asset exchange for btc announced today.

Btw, I am currently developing a closed-source Windows client. Right now, I am working on the blockchain explorer part, since this is what I want personally, but eventually it will have all mainstream features like seen in the web client. It might not be the silver bullet, but it might suit some. I will post when I have something to show and download.

I would really like to see others starting developement of other clients and less nexern bashing.
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