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Quote from: landomata on December 27, 2013, 01:05:48 AM

so talk time would be a good indicator of how long the battery would last running the full client.

EDIT: I don;t think this battery thing would be a problem on the new 64 bit -- iPad air or recently released tablets.

That could be feasible. Tablets have enormous batteries these days and low power cores on the side of main CPU for simple tasks.

Compared to tablet's screen nxt is probably not very power-hungry Cheesy

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 27, 2013, 01:01:26 AM

Quote from: rickyjames on December 26, 2013, 05:43:25 PM

CfB, a new topic for your consideration. Is there a way to mod the next version of the NXT client/server software (0.4.8?) to identify whether on not it is running on a Raspberry Pi and perhaps even put out some sort of visual designator in the peer field of the client so you can tell how many Raspberry Pis are running in the wild? Such info could be of great and growing interest in the future, perhaps even convincing the bad guys to give up DDoS when they see for themselves that NXT can deploy more nodes for $40 each than they can to attack.

Check this article and think about it. If NXT is running on an ARMv6, it's running on a Pi. Perhaps a nice raspberry colored dot could be used to show this?

http://htpcbuild.com/hardware/standalone-htpc-build/raspberry-pi-htpc/raspberry-pi-codec-license-install/

I'm adding a special parameter to identify Raspberry Pis.

what about android devices?

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Quote from: Meizirkki on December 27, 2013, 12:59:33 AM

EDIT: About the battery life:

A full client would need to be constantly uploading and downloading data whether it's forging or not. This will not only keep the CPU awake most of the time but also have the radio online 24/7.

It may not be as bad as making a phone call but not far from it either.

so talk time would be a good indicator of how long the battery would last running the full client.

EDIT: I don;t think this battery thing would be a problem on the new 64 bit -- iPad air or recently released tablets.

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Quote from: rickyjames on December 26, 2013, 05:43:25 PM

CfB, a new topic for your consideration. Is there a way to mod the next version of the NXT client/server software (0.4.8?) to identify whether on not it is running on a Raspberry Pi and perhaps even put out some sort of visual designator in the peer field of the client so you can tell how many Raspberry Pis are running in the wild? Such info could be of great and growing interest in the future, perhaps even convincing the bad guys to give up DDoS when they see for themselves that NXT can deploy more nodes for $40 each than they can to attack.

Check this article and think about it. If NXT is running on an ARMv6, it's running on a Pi. Perhaps a nice raspberry colored dot could be used to show this?

http://htpcbuild.com/hardware/standalone-htpc-build/raspberry-pi-htpc/raspberry-pi-codec-license-install/

I'm adding a special parameter to identify Raspberry Pis.

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EDIT: About the battery life:

A full client would need to be constantly uploading and downloading data whether it's forging or not. This will not only keep the CPU awake most of the time but also have the radio online 24/7.

It may not be as bad as making a phone call but not far from it either.

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Just got feedback on the current android app with Alias seach:

Nexus 7 tablet

Regarding battery drain....No, absolutely. The application will not forge or mine simply allows a quick view of the balance of the accounts. Out an agenda and other things. Is not persistent nor generates notifications. I like to see the balance of my accounts. Not need the master password, the account number only.

@CFB ....is the above Nxt node set-up helping the network in anyway?

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Quote from: opticalcarrier on December 27, 2013, 12:50:50 AM

Feature request for te future:

Ability to write a transaction to the blockchain that the presence of would prevent transfer of funds from your account until you write another transaction later to the blockchain that would allow 'unlocking'

Seems like this wouldn't be impossible

I assume you mean to make both transactions from account not being locked/unlocked. How would the network know whether you own the account you're trying to lock without compromising security? I think this feature would require a complete rewrite Tongue

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Feature request for te future:

Ability to write a transaction to the blockchain that the presence of would prevent transfer of funds from your account until you write another transaction later to the blockchain that would allow 'unlocking'

Seems like this wouldn't be impossible

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Quote from: ImmortAlex on December 27, 2013, 12:42:01 AM

Quote from: landomata on December 27, 2013, 12:35:09 AM

what about battery life that might pose a problem for device owners

It is PoS system, probably not very angry for battery power.

there's a lot of android devices in the world at presently and they keep getting more powerful day by day....Nxt nodes could easily cross a million.

If i'm correct Anonymous messaging is planned to be launched in a matter of weeks.

There's a guy running the current android app on his nexus 7 tablet...i already asked his feedback regarding battery drain...should have his reply soon.

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Quote from: landomata on December 27, 2013, 12:35:09 AM

what about battery life that might pose a problem for device owners

It is PoS system, probably not very angry for battery power.

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Quote from: lophie on December 27, 2013, 12:33:11 AM

Quote from: landomata on December 27, 2013, 12:18:47 AM

With the Raspberry Pi experience I think it would be wise to be smartphone centric there is a lot of smartphones in the world with great distribution systems called App stores already in place.

If we can refine Nxt client to optimally run on smartphones then we can greatly scale the number of nodes in the network.

But for smartphones to run as nodes we need to have an amazing social feature for the general public to us on a daily basis....Anonymous Messaging with alias from your smartphone.

There is real demand for this....example bittorrent just launched an anonymous messaging service in alpha a few days ago.

We should beat them to the punch....we already have a working android app with Alias search.

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,797.msg12105.html#msg12105

you forgot that a good android client renders all sticks running android a perfect candidate as well.

what about battery life that might pose a problem for device owners

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Quote from: landomata on December 27, 2013, 12:18:47 AM

With the Raspberry Pi experience I think it would be wise to be smartphone centric there is a lot of smartphones in the world with great distribution systems called App stores already in place.

If we can refine Nxt client to optimally run on smartphones then we can greatly scale the number of nodes in the network.

But for smartphones to run as nodes we need to have an amazing social feature for the general public to us on a daily basis....Anonymous Messaging with alias from your smartphone.

There is real demand for this....example bittorrent just launched an anonymous messaging service in alpha a few days ago.

We should beat them to the punch....we already have a working android app with Alias search.

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,797.msg12105.html#msg12105

you forgot that a good android client renders all sticks running android a perfect candidate as well.

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With the Raspberry Pi experience I think it would be wise to be smartphone centric there is a lot of smartphones in the world with great distribution systems called App stores already in place.

If we can refine Nxt client to optimally run on smartphones then we can greatly scale the number of nodes in the network.

But for smartphones to run as nodes we need to have an amazing social feature for the general public to us on a daily basis....Anonymous Messaging with alias from your smartphone.

There is real demand for this....example bittorrent just launched an anonymous messaging service in alpha a few days ago.

We should beat them to the punch....we already have a working android app with Alias search.

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,797.msg12105.html#msg12105

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Quote from: gbeirn on December 26, 2013, 10:04:22 PM

Quote from: bitcoinrocks on December 26, 2013, 10:02:37 PM

Skynet is referenced that way a lot.

What we really need to do is get nodes running on tiny powerful always connected to the Internet devices that everyone carries around all day......phones.

Shouldn't be to hard on Android devices since they run Java anyway.

Anonymous messaging with alias should solve this....search with Alias is already in the android app....i think someone is working on iPad & iPhone app as well.

Android App:

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,797.msg12105.html#msg12105

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The devs are just waiting for the price to go up for that.

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Fees need to be fractions of NxT.

NxTs price isn't going to go up if a transaction fee is several USD.

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Quote from: PaulyC on December 26, 2013, 10:21:33 PM

Quote from: Pablito89 on December 26, 2013, 01:46:12 PM

WellKnowPeers easyCopyString:
162.243.214.68; 95.85.46.164; 162.243.216.55; 162.243.143.15; 95.85.46.249; 93.190.92.74; 37.209.120.192; 93.190.92.75; 85.25.134.59; 93.190.92.76; vps1.nxtcrypto.org; vps2.nxtcrypto.org; vps3.nxtcrypto.org; vps4.nxtcrypto.org; vps5.nxtcrypto.org; nxtwallet.com; 31.220.50.208; nxt.ddos.me; 203.174.12.25; 88.198.142.92; 66.197.138.90; 64.120.180.106; 109.230.224.65; 80.86.92.50; node1.nextcoin.it; node2.nextcoin.it; node3.nextcoin.it; node4.nextcoin.it; node5.nextcoin.it;

Should non vps owners have to add wellknownpeers to the web .xml?
thanks

Sure. That increase your chances to be on real main blockchain at any moment.

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Quote from: brooklynbtc on December 26, 2013, 10:58:54 PM

So I came home to my 8gb nodes stuck on the blockchain at 4:12pm and hundreds of dead connections.

hallmarked, and frozen.

This really seems to be the bottleneck to me, and solution to a lot of this, booting timed out connections. they are like barnacles on the bottom of a ship, only serving to slow us down

Thoughts?

same here. cron close the process and reboot a few times a day? different times for different servers

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Quote from: jubalix on December 26, 2013, 10:29:00 PM

this is so frustrating, getting good alias only to have them not take

getting a transaction id then nothing

very very flaky

Don't know if you tried it, but increasing the deadline time to like 6-8 helped me. i had the same issues at first, for the record i had one alias confirmed for awhile and then taken away, given to someone else on the "right" chain (back when the chain was screwy and forked) so the system isn't solid but is probably better than before.

*edit
another thing. don't know how much it's been discussed, but unless you're picking an alias that is in DEMAND.. I don't believe there's any reason to pick anything higher than 1 fee.. before realizing that it would just take my highest offer, rather than, THEE highest offer, I lost a bit of NXT this way.. disappointed because the video by the user NXT (developer?) on youtube didn't accurately describe the fee process with Alias.

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So I came home to my 8gb nodes stuck on the blockchain at 4:12pm and hundreds of dead connections.

hallmarked, and frozen.

This really seems to be the bottleneck to me, and solution to a lot of this, booting timed out connections. they are like barnacles on the bottom of a ship, only serving to slow us down

Thoughts?

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