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Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 07:44:13 AM

yes please explain how this works and how/when am i completely sure that i got the alias. after the deadline or immediately.
also if checking while the deadline is not reached if i see i didn't get the alias can i bid again with higher price?

why is this shady? please explain all these and not just announce "listen ppl try to get aliases".

nxt is until now a just currency although with closed source code which some people dont like.

at least be transparent about aliases.

U get alias when a transaction is confirmed. There is a chance that some blocks will be orphaned so u have to wait for 720 confirms to make sure.
U can bid again with higher price as many times as u wish. No need to wait for a transaction to expire.
This is shady, coz deadline, fees and decentralized network is a sophisticated system.

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Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 08:02:31 AM

Quote from: utopianfuture on December 21, 2013, 07:54:05 AM

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 07:44:13 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 21, 2013, 07:36:11 AM

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 07:35:17 AM

is the lack of concrete information because of people wanting to get all the domains for themselves?

sorry for trolling but its just simple what i ask

i ask for an alias. timeout means that after the timeout i will know if i got the alias or not?

please explain clearly this stuff before it starts.

Timeout? U mean deadline?

yes please explain how this works and how/when am i completely sure that i got the alias. after the deadline or immediately.
also if checking while the deadline is not reached if i see i didn't get the alias can i bid again with higher price?

why is this shady? please explain all these and not just announce "listen ppl try to get aliases".

nxt is until now a just currency although with closed source code which some people dont like.

at least be transparent about aliases.

If you follow NXT development closely, you will see that all the information has been given out at one point or another. Code from Beyond has been extremely accommodating and answering every single question directed to him. Sometimes twice or third times.
Nxt development has been at lighting speed so far. Things are changing day by day and that is the reason no one has the time to compile an unified and official source of information such as NXTwiki or guide. Nothing shady here. It is just you are at frontier and it is normal there is no available guide.
Feel free to voice detail and technical questions, Code from beyond will happily answer you.

i dont agree sorry.

in the last 4-5 pages i have asked the same questions 3 times and i have been ignored by code from beyond.

also sorry but when you announce a complicated feature with a start in the next day or so, you need to have at least some technical answers ready and a guide.

releasing it and waiting for people to ask questions that you may answer and may not, is not only amateur but shady.

the only thing that was released is the alias.html and that we can use it to register aliases. all other info comes from random questions from members here. this is not fair for example many ppl would be searching the nxtforum itself for guides.

Before Code from Beyond join in, here is my attempt:

1. After you register an alias, you will get confirmed if your request is selected in a block but it could be orphan block so you need more than 1 confirmation to be sure

2. After deadline your request of an alias become invalid, if it is not confirmed yet than that means the request did not get on a block (because the fee is low comparatively)

3. After deadline you can increase your fee to get on a block again

4. I am still unsure how long do you wait to get the result if your alias has been taken by someone else ?? so you can move to other alias Code from beyond ??

skytaper

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Calm down people... there is only one Google!!! Grin

One google, one extra rich ).

PGPpfKkx

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Quote from: utopianfuture on December 21, 2013, 07:54:05 AM

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 07:44:13 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 21, 2013, 07:36:11 AM

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 07:35:17 AM

is the lack of concrete information because of people wanting to get all the domains for themselves?

sorry for trolling but its just simple what i ask

i ask for an alias. timeout means that after the timeout i will know if i got the alias or not?

please explain clearly this stuff before it starts.

Timeout? U mean deadline?

yes please explain how this works and how/when am i completely sure that i got the alias. after the deadline or immediately.
also if checking while the deadline is not reached if i see i didn't get the alias can i bid again with higher price?

why is this shady? please explain all these and not just announce "listen ppl try to get aliases".

nxt is until now a just currency although with closed source code which some people dont like.

at least be transparent about aliases.

If you follow NXT development closely, you will see that all the information has been given out at one point or another. Code from Beyond has been extremely accommodating and answering every single question directed to him. Sometimes twice or third times.
Nxt development has been at lighting speed so far. Things are changing day by day and that is the reason no one has the time to compile an unified and official source of information such as NXTwiki or guide. Nothing shady here. It is just you are at frontier and it is normal there is no available guide.
Feel free to voice detail and technical questions, Code from beyond will happily answer you.

i dont agree sorry.

in the last 4-5 pages i have asked the same questions 3 times and i have been ignored by code from beyond.

also sorry but when you announce a complicated feature with a start in the next day or so, you need to have at least some technical answers ready and a guide.

releasing it and waiting for people to ask questions that you may answer and may not, is not only amateur but shady.

the only thing that was released is the alias.html and that we can use it to register aliases. all other info comes from random questions from members here. this is not fair for example many ppl would be searching the nxtforum itself for guides.

Gonzo418

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I once saw a guid how to build and update nxt from GitHub on linux.
I can't find that guide anymore. Can one please point me to it. Thanks

bidji29

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what i don't understand about the alias system is the "deadline" and the "confirmed/forged".

If someone get Google at block 22001 because he is the highest bidder, can someone still oubid him in the next blocks?

Kodoka

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So I certain I'm entirely daft, but could anyone better explain the alias system... Or make a guide with picture for it?

voldemort628

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Come from beyond or Code from beyond ?

))

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Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 07:44:13 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 21, 2013, 07:36:11 AM

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 07:35:17 AM

is the lack of concrete information because of people wanting to get all the domains for themselves?

sorry for trolling but its just simple what i ask

i ask for an alias. timeout means that after the timeout i will know if i got the alias or not?

please explain clearly this stuff before it starts.

Timeout? U mean deadline?

yes please explain how this works and how/when am i completely sure that i got the alias. after the deadline or immediately.
also if checking while the deadline is not reached if i see i didn't get the alias can i bid again with higher price?

why is this shady? please explain all these and not just announce "listen ppl try to get aliases".

nxt is until now a just currency although with closed source code which some people dont like.

at least be transparent about aliases.

If you follow NXT development closely, you will see that all the information has been given out at one point or another. Code from Beyond has been extremely accommodating and answering every single question directed to him. Sometimes twice or third times.
Nxt development has been at lighting speed so far. Things are changing day by day and that is the reason no one has the time to compile an unified and official source of information such as NXTwiki or guide. Nothing shady here. It is just you are at frontier and it is normal there is no available guide.
Feel free to voice detail and technical questions, Code from beyond will happily answer you.

PGPpfKkx

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 21, 2013, 07:36:11 AM

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 07:35:17 AM

is the lack of concrete information because of people wanting to get all the domains for themselves?

sorry for trolling but its just simple what i ask

i ask for an alias. timeout means that after the timeout i will know if i got the alias or not?

please explain clearly this stuff before it starts.

Timeout? U mean deadline?

yes please explain how this works and how/when am i completely sure that i got the alias. after the deadline or immediately.
also if checking while the deadline is not reached if i see i didn't get the alias can i bid again with higher price?

why is this shady? please explain all these and not just announce "listen ppl try to get aliases".

nxt is until now a just currency although with closed source code which some people dont like.

at least be transparent about aliases.

voldemort628

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Quote from: laowai80 on December 21, 2013, 07:29:44 AM

Quote from: voldemort628 on December 21, 2013, 07:23:42 AM

hmm so what does it mean ?

You can use a tool like:

http://www.url-encode-decode.com/urlencode

to url encode special chars and put them in the address line.

For example this pass string: !@#$%^&()+

after encoding looks like:

%21%40%23%24%25%5E%26%28%29%2B

and can now be fed to the API when you create a manual request in the browser:

http://localhost:6874/nxt?requestType=assignAlias&secretPhrase=%21%40%23%24%25%5E%26%28%29%2B&alias=Google&uri=http://google.com&fee=1&deadline=1440

or at least I think that's how it's supposed to work, let's wait for CfB's confirmation

or better yet, just use https://localhost:7875/alias.html it should do the encoding automatically.

ohhh , got it now, thanks Wink

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 07:35:17 AM

is the lack of concrete information because of people wanting to get all the domains for themselves?

sorry for trolling but its just simple what i ask

i ask for an alias. timeout means that after the timeout i will know if i got the alias or not?

please explain clearly this stuff before it starts.

Timeout? U mean deadline?

PGPpfKkx

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is the lack of concrete information because of people wanting to get all the domains for themselves?

sorry for trolling but its just simple what i ask

i ask for an alias. timeout means that after the timeout i will know if i got the alias or not?

please explain clearly this stuff before it starts.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: laowai80 on December 21, 2013, 07:29:44 AM

or at least I think that's how it's supposed to work, let's wait for CfB's confirmation

That's correct.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: lr127 on December 21, 2013, 07:12:45 AM

Come-from-Beyond

Where i can read the roadmap for NRS?
In March release will be implemented all planned features?
The program will be java-based?

I created NRS-based android application & run it on my Android tablet.
It's works (i check the downloading all blocks & transaction to tablet & get my account balance),
but has big memory consumption.
I had to make some changes to code and need a lot of changes in the source code to improve the application for android devices in future. And new releases come out very often.
Maybe it's a waste of time.

Community needs NRS working on tablet and phones or light client only? Are there any technical problems in the future, which will not allow the NRS to work on mobile devices? For example, too large blocks size?

Sorry for my language.

Block 25000 - partial migration to Transparent Mining
Block 30000 - Arbitrary Messages
3rd of January - Release of source code (basic features only)
Mid of January - Asset Exchange (API only)
End of January - Client for Asset Exchange (is being developed by nexern)

Somewhere in the very begining of 2014 we r planning to have API ready for Voting System, NRS web interface will be removed completely, current API will become Legacy API and 2 other types will be introduced - Low-level API (mainly for blockchain reading and raw transactions) and High-level API (similar to Legacy API for casual programmers).

This is planned stuff, anything may be changed

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Quote from: voldemort628 on December 21, 2013, 07:23:42 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 21, 2013, 05:30:53 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on December 21, 2013, 05:17:55 AM

I've tryed to buy an alias before it started. For some reason it only works through https://localhost:7875/alias.html

If I use an address line, I get error: {"errorCode":6,"errorDescription":"Not enough funds"}

Ur passphrase contains symbols that must be url-encoded. (like # or &)

hmm so what does it mean ?

If you put your password in the address bar of your browser it cant read in properly.

it will work in the https://localhost:7875/alias.html

Pin

laowai80

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Quote from: voldemort628 on December 21, 2013, 07:23:42 AM

hmm so what does it mean ?

You can use a tool like:

http://www.url-encode-decode.com/urlencode

to url encode special chars and put them in the address line.

For example this pass string: !@#$%^&()+

after encoding looks like:

%21%40%23%24%25%5E%26%28%29%2B

and can now be fed to the API when you create a manual request in the browser:

http://localhost:6874/nxt?requestType=assignAlias&secretPhrase=%21%40%23%24%25%5E%26%28%29%2B&alias=Google&uri=http://google.com&fee=1&deadline=1440

or at least I think that's how it's supposed to work, let's wait for CfB's confirmation

or better yet, just use https://localhost:7875/alias.html it should do the encoding automatically.

PGPpfKkx

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Quote from: pinarello on December 21, 2013, 07:08:46 AM

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 21, 2013, 07:07:25 AM

can you please explain how to verify if u got the alias and if you need to wait for the timeout?

only works after block 22000.

Pin

great insight, i mean after block 22000 ok now?

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Quote from: voldemort628 on December 21, 2013, 07:23:42 AM

hmm so what does it mean ?

Your transaction was just rejected.

voldemort628

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 21, 2013, 05:30:53 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on December 21, 2013, 05:17:55 AM

I've tryed to buy an alias before it started. For some reason it only works through https://localhost:7875/alias.html

If I use an address line, I get error: {"errorCode":6,"errorDescription":"Not enough funds"}

Ur passphrase contains symbols that must be url-encoded. (like # or &)

hmm so what does it mean ?

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