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jl777

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Hi,

I have a few questions:

1. Issue asset

from: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Nxt_API

http://localhost:7876/nxt?
   requestType=issueAsset&
   secretPhrase=SECRET&
   name=ASSETNAME&
   description=DESCRIPTION&
   quantity=QTY&
   fee=FEE&
   referencedTransaction=REFTX

Does one sends his own private key in the open??
(attacker might just need to activate WireShark on the attacked remote computer to sniff it...)

2. I read somewhere that BCNext had made a few tweaks to a well known elliptic curve algorithm.

   Why did he do it? (one minus that I see is that It is not "proven" and we needed auditing).

3. Can someone send assets from one account to the other without going through the asset exchange? (for example from one account that I have to the other)

http://localhost:7876 localhost is your own computer using loopback. I dont think it even goes out on your LAN cable, just processed internally. So, unless your PC is compromised, no problems. However, if your PC is compromised to the point where the attacker has access to the loopback data, then you are already screwed

The "tweaks" were porting to Java, including an implementation bug. This bug has been identified and fixed and the code has been reviewed by Dr. Evil himself, aka Jesse James. Also, the encryption choices BCNext made were a bit ahead of time, now openssl is making the same type of choice.

There is the transferAsset API call that lets you send assets to any account

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Quote from: BrianNowhere on March 18, 2014, 03:12:19 PM

Quote from: Eadeqa on March 18, 2014, 02:59:06 PM

Quote from: BrianNowhere on March 18, 2014, 02:47:51 PM

Quote from: NxtMinnow on March 18, 2014, 11:15:04 AM

BrianNowhere, please put together a proposal to help Nxt find Java coders and submit it to the appropriate committee.

Considering how very much like Ripple Nxt is, I think it's pertinent. I have tried to offer solutions to at least get the thought process going but the developers are dismissive. I get the feeling of being talked down to whenever I bring up concerns and get the sense the feedback is not desired unless it consists of mindless praise and enthusiasm. I'm getting the feeling that anyone who is not a developer is viewed as an annoyance, especially anyone who has invested for speculative reasons, which is probably about 85% of Nxt holders.

Developers seem to have issues with speculators, who I believe they need dearly and are dismissive of at their peril. That's their right.
For the rest of us we'll vote with our feet, our wallets and our energy.

You should sell all your nxt and move to ripple. Live happy ever after.

Why keep repeating the same thing over and over about ripple? Almost everyone here knows about ripple and have used it.

I was responding to someone from earlier. And your reply only illustrates my point about the dismissiveness towards people who have legitimate concerns. I'm not the one who decided to make a multi-thousand page Jerry Seinfeld thread about nothing.

Last time I checked you don't speak for everyone who reads it and I am sure many people are unaware of what Ripple even is.

If you want people to stay on the topics of YOUR choosing then use a better format.

Brian,
You have asked the most intelligent questions about Ripple. There is a lot of FUD on ripple, just like with anything
For anybody that has done research into the capabilities, there are indeed undeniable similarities. Of course when you get right down to programming to the API, the details are very different.

However, there are rippled daemons running on servers (I used to run one) and you have client software talking to the daemons, or locally sign them and submit to a public server. Sounds familiar?

Ripple is not perfect. It is also not garbage. We can learn from what Ripple has done right and what it has done wrong.

I thank you for your deep questions about ripple. I made me analyze things from an angle I did not before. This can only be a good thing, to spur others thinkings.

Eadequa seems to like to complain a lot. I know he thinks I am good for nothing

James

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Quote from: Emule on March 18, 2014, 03:41:34 PM

sory got to go now have some selling to do you do not get rich that easy you know

se y'all tomorrow with price 0.0000001

Ok sleep well sweet prince

Emule

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sory got to go now have some selling to do you do not get rich that easy you know

se y'all tomorrow with price 0.0000001

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Quote from: Emule on March 18, 2014, 03:15:33 PM

Did you know that both you and another member of this forum both misspell the same words the same way?

is that my fault

did you know your mother is lesbian?

Your formatting also matches.

do i look like i give a fuck what you think

i see some think i am pinarello thank you all for that compliment he left did he not?

I don't know if Pin will be back. I did stick up for him, however.

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More on Ripple vs. Nxt

When people here tell me to STFU about comparing Ripple's features to Nxt's it reminds me of a theoretical Burger King R&D Manager testing new fries recipe but shouting at their staff to stop comparing them to McDonalds fries, and to stop bringing up how McDonald's fries don't don't turn your teeth green and that this recipe costs $5 more per order to manufacture than McDonald's fries do.

If you don't want people to compare them, then come up with new ideas that haven't already been done by Ripple, or at least do those things better. I am seeing neither thing happen.

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Don't know how this digital good store will work and look like. But right now, I would say all ideas like silkroad can be achieved by special clients which uses Nxt as the platform.

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Quote from: msin on March 17, 2014, 11:23:43 PM

Quote from: Gaman on March 17, 2014, 08:30:43 PM

Regarding Asset Exchange:

1. Is there a way to give out dividends?
2. I am envisioning that there would be tons of people creating whatsoever assets, I believe a way to manage it is necessary. Like categories? favorites?
3. I also think there should be a moderator who could flag assets that are fraudulent.

I agree with #2, would be great to sort assets by trading volume, price, etc.. We are decentralized, no one can moderate the exchange, however, we could have a reputation system and forum threads so people could do a little research before buying.

I agree with number two also. If the AE is even remotely successful, it would definitely be of interest to index the thing. I think it would kind of be advantageous to do something along the lines of what Craigslist does to index listings; breaking the body of listings down by location, and general categories, and then each individual listing provides more specific details. The AE is great for what it symbolizes, but for future usage, I think it will need to address the issue of organizing listed assets, among other possible ease of usage changes.

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Quote from: Brando on March 18, 2014, 01:33:24 PM

Hi everyone!
Due to the somewhat delicate matter of this post, I just registered this account (I already posted this on the NXT Asset Exchange Thread but as Anon136 pointed out, it was not the right place, so I decided to repost it in this thread).

I was a long time customer of Silk Road (SR) and its follower (Sheep Market, Silk Road 2.0). SR made over 1.2 billion in revenues. There are several voices who claim that it was SR who made Bitcoin popular. In the last months there were several major drawbacks for these kind of markets: The Bitcoins of the vendors / customers got stolen either from hackers or the platform itself. Of course after such bad experience especially the vendors do not want to trust their funds to an anonymous platform since there are huge trust issues involved. Desperately they are looking for an alternative solution. The Asset Exchange could solve this problem for the vendors.

What they need is (beside the obvious):
1. The setup of their products must be easy
a. Description
b. If possible pictures
2. Message system
3. Easy Payment

To address the demands of the customers. The following criteria must be met:
1. Easy access
2. Ratings of the vendor
3. Message System
4. Easy Payment

I would say that it's possible, but would be improved with some kind of escrow system via AT. Having an in-client storefront would also be ideal for SR users to browse. For now, if there are trusted members with feedback rating and secure messaging, Nxt would be a good platform. We would need a fairly comprehensive guide to distribute on how to trade via Nxt and also some unwritten guidelines such as; a vendor has to have a minimum of 10k Nxt in account, to prevent some scammers.

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Quote from: Touque on March 18, 2014, 03:09:09 PM

Quote from: mcjavar on March 18, 2014, 02:42:04 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on March 18, 2014, 02:35:55 PM

Quote from: Damelon on March 18, 2014, 02:27:32 PM

He's not leaving

He míght just be getting the price down so more people can buy.

Also: when someone sells, someone buys.
It's not as if the Nxt is running away Cheesy

No, we need USD coz hired coders ask for fiat.

What will they work on? Why is klee paying for it? Or is this a community fund?

So far, most of the projects have been paid by whales like Klee, Pouncer, Msin, Neer.g, Bitcoincanada, cfb, and some other guys whose name I can't remember. They have been working behind the scene.

Thanks, I´m here since december, I know that. Just want to clarify what funds these are.

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Quote from: Eadeqa on March 18, 2014, 02:41:40 PM

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Quote from: intmain() on March 18, 2014, 01:46:31 PM

Quote from: Emule on March 18, 2014, 01:41:33 PM

this will hurt a little sorry guys... soon it will be over hint bter

It would be beneficial if you crashed the price to 0 on BTER, it would only shoot back up to where it is now, except more NXT would be distributed of course.

You had to quote this fool... didn't ya? Tongue

Hey PSYCHOPATH... we all know it wasn't you on Bter... STOP QUOTING THIS TROLL PEOPLE!!!!! Kiss

Yeah, stop quoring him. He is nobody. No money. No nxt. He is all hot air.

you know what hot air is!

nxt is hot air, nexern client is hot air and all this is hot air!

Let sum up what we have finished here:

- Decentralized Alias System / DNS: yes but not Complete
- Basic DDoS Protection: Complete?
- Decentralized Asset Exchange / Colored Coins:NO
- Transparent Mining:NO
- Transparant Forging:NO
- Arbitrary Messaging: Complete but absolete
- Instant Transactions:NO
- Decentralized Marketplace / Auction:NO
- Distributed Storage:NO
- Multi-signatures:NO
- Blockchain Shrinking:NO
- Two-phase Payments:NO
- Voting System:NO
- Reputation System:NO
- Decentralized Mixing Service:NO
- Distributed Computing:NO
- Smart Contracts:NO
- Hardware Wallets:NO
- Advanced DDoS Protection Project Kharo:NO
- white paper: NO
- Client:NO

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Quote from: Eadeqa on March 18, 2014, 02:59:06 PM

Quote from: BrianNowhere on March 18, 2014, 02:47:51 PM

Quote from: NxtMinnow on March 18, 2014, 11:15:04 AM

BrianNowhere, please put together a proposal to help Nxt find Java coders and submit it to the appropriate committee.

Considering how very much like Ripple Nxt is, I think it's pertinent. I have tried to offer solutions to at least get the thought process going but the developers are dismissive. I get the feeling of being talked down to whenever I bring up concerns and get the sense the feedback is not desired unless it consists of mindless praise and enthusiasm. I'm getting the feeling that anyone who is not a developer is viewed as an annoyance, especially anyone who has invested for speculative reasons, which is probably about 85% of Nxt holders.

Developers seem to have issues with speculators, who I believe they need dearly and are dismissive of at their peril. That's their right.
For the rest of us we'll vote with our feet, our wallets and our energy.

You should sell all your nxt and move to ripple. Live happy ever after.

Why keep repeating the same thing over and over about ripple? Almost everyone here knows about ripple and have used it.

I was responding to someone from earlier. And your reply only illustrates my point about the dismissiveness towards people who have legitimate concerns. I'm not the one who decided to make a multi-thousand page Jerry Seinfeld thread about nothing.

Last time I checked you don't speak for everyone who reads it and I am sure many people are unaware of what Ripple even is.

If you want people to stay on the topics of YOUR choosing then use a better format.

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Quote from: mcjavar on March 18, 2014, 02:42:04 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on March 18, 2014, 02:35:55 PM

Quote from: Damelon on March 18, 2014, 02:27:32 PM

He's not leaving

He míght just be getting the price down so more people can buy.

Also: when someone sells, someone buys.
It's not as if the Nxt is running away Cheesy

No, we need USD coz hired coders ask for fiat.

What will they work on? Why is klee paying for it? Or is this a community fund?

So far, most of the projects have been paid by whales like Klee, Pouncer, Msin, Neer.g, Bitcoincanada, cfb, and some other guys whose name I can't remember. They have been working behind the scene.

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Quote from: jztxeno on March 18, 2014, 03:04:14 PM

Quote from: Eadeqa on March 18, 2014, 02:59:06 PM

Quote from: BrianNowhere on March 18, 2014, 02:47:51 PM

Quote from: NxtMinnow on March 18, 2014, 11:15:04 AM

BrianNowhere, please put together a proposal to help Nxt find Java coders and submit it to the appropriate committee.

Considering how very much like Ripple Nxt is, I think it's pertinent. I have tried to offer solutions to at least get the thought process going but the developers are dismissive. I get the feeling of being talked down to whenever I bring up concerns and get the sense the feedback is not desired unless it consists of mindless praise and enthusiasm. I'm getting the feeling that anyone who is not a developer is viewed as an annoyance, especially anyone who has invested for speculative reasons, which is probably about 85% of Nxt holders.

Developers seem to have issues with speculators, who I believe they need dearly and are dismissive of at their peril. That's their right.
For the rest of us we'll vote with our feet, our wallets and our energy.

You should sell all your nxt and move to ripple. Live happy ever after.

Why keep repeating the same thing over and over about ripple? Almost everyone here knows about ripple and have used it.

GTFO

No, then I am the only one who didnt use ripple, ever.

I never used Ripple too and I'm happy I didn't.

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Quote from: Eadeqa on March 18, 2014, 02:59:06 PM

Quote from: BrianNowhere on March 18, 2014, 02:47:51 PM

Quote from: NxtMinnow on March 18, 2014, 11:15:04 AM

BrianNowhere, please put together a proposal to help Nxt find Java coders and submit it to the appropriate committee.

Considering how very much like Ripple Nxt is, I think it's pertinent. I have tried to offer solutions to at least get the thought process going but the developers are dismissive. I get the feeling of being talked down to whenever I bring up concerns and get the sense the feedback is not desired unless it consists of mindless praise and enthusiasm. I'm getting the feeling that anyone who is not a developer is viewed as an annoyance, especially anyone who has invested for speculative reasons, which is probably about 85% of Nxt holders.

Developers seem to have issues with speculators, who I believe they need dearly and are dismissive of at their peril. That's their right.
For the rest of us we'll vote with our feet, our wallets and our energy.

You should sell all your nxt and move to ripple. Live happy ever after.

Why keep repeating the same thing over and over about ripple? Almost everyone here knows about ripple and have used it.

I don't agree. Brian has concerns and at least talks without shouting. That alone takes me in for him

He may leave if things don't go his way, but just dismissing people is just is... rude.
It also deprives you from other views.

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Quote from: Eadeqa on March 18, 2014, 02:59:06 PM

Quote from: BrianNowhere on March 18, 2014, 02:47:51 PM

Quote from: NxtMinnow on March 18, 2014, 11:15:04 AM

BrianNowhere, please put together a proposal to help Nxt find Java coders and submit it to the appropriate committee.

Considering how very much like Ripple Nxt is, I think it's pertinent. I have tried to offer solutions to at least get the thought process going but the developers are dismissive. I get the feeling of being talked down to whenever I bring up concerns and get the sense the feedback is not desired unless it consists of mindless praise and enthusiasm. I'm getting the feeling that anyone who is not a developer is viewed as an annoyance, especially anyone who has invested for speculative reasons, which is probably about 85% of Nxt holders.

Developers seem to have issues with speculators, who I believe they need dearly and are dismissive of at their peril. That's their right.
For the rest of us we'll vote with our feet, our wallets and our energy.

You should sell all your nxt and move to ripple. Live happy ever after.

Why keep repeating the same thing over and over about ripple? Almost everyone here knows about ripple and have used it.

GTFO

No, then I am the only one who didnt use ripple, ever.

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Quote from: BrianNowhere on March 18, 2014, 02:47:51 PM

Quote from: NxtMinnow on March 18, 2014, 11:15:04 AM

BrianNowhere, please put together a proposal to help Nxt find Java coders and submit it to the appropriate committee.

Considering how very much like Ripple Nxt is, I think it's pertinent. I have tried to offer solutions to at least get the thought process going but the developers are dismissive. I get the feeling of being talked down to whenever I bring up concerns and get the sense the feedback is not desired unless it consists of mindless praise and enthusiasm. I'm getting the feeling that anyone who is not a developer is viewed as an annoyance, especially anyone who has invested for speculative reasons, which is probably about 85% of Nxt holders.

Developers seem to have issues with speculators, who I believe they need dearly and are dismissive of at their peril. That's their right.
For the rest of us we'll vote with our feet, our wallets and our energy.

You should sell all your nxt and move to ripple. Live happy ever after.

Why keep repeating the same thing over and over about ripple? Almost everyone here knows about ripple and have used it.

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