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btw, it seems like there will be non-unique asset names. jean luc and others likes that idea.

You know more than us?

Yes. A lot of things going on behind the scenes. Announcements will be made soon
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Non-unique asset listings could create confusion, or worse they could be a scam haven, with multiple BLABLA issuers.

Let's clear that up for you.

In the current Nxt "distopian" future you will have these Assets:

Microsoft (scam)
M1crosoft (scam)
M1cr0soft (scam)
Microsoft_2014 (scam)
Microsoft_2015 (real - assuming they haven't destroyed Nxt out of anger about the 1st listing)

Can you see why unique names are a problem now?

May as well just make it this:

Microsoft 38234124
Microsoft 98289128
Microsoft 12349123
Microsoft 58345345
Microsoft 13912342

only 1 is legit anyway (so *buyer* needs to *do more research* rather than just getting ripped off).


Non-unique Asset names combined with Asset ID (which already exists) as the displayed name. The more I read about it the more I like it. Nxt code change would just be to allow same asset names. The rest is client side dev.

edit: Use the Asset ID and change it to HEX for slightly more convenience, maybe.
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btw, it seems like there will be non-unique asset names. jean luc and others likes that idea.

You know more than us?
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With NXT everyone can make progress in their own desired direction.
That is the power of decentralization. Nobody to dictate what can and cant be done
I know if I had to get approval for many of my ideas, they would pretty much all get shot down.

The valuation of NXT will correlate to the SUM of the value of NXT in all of its uses. We certainly cant ignore the 1.0 valuation, or the AE valuation, or the TBD based valuation.


+1
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community input needed:

Unique names for assets? For example : BLABLA (only issued once)

Or non unique names for assets?

For example: BLABLA 12423434 and BLABLA 343434334  (you only choose BLABLA, the rest is the asset id - automatically generated)

(Perhaps, I'm not sure, the number can be shortened..)

If you have another idea, please specify.

BLABLA....only issued once.

How about just adding a 16-bit CRC to the end of the asset name which is based on the or + - its only 4 hex digits and should ensure uniqueness....
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Additionally, I think we need a Preferred Issuers checkbox in the GUI's that will only display assets from Preferred Issuers. This totally gets rid of scammers as we make the fee to be a Preferred Issuer 10000 NXT, paid to the client devs for updating their software with the details about the Preferred Issuers. users can always uncheck the Preferred Issuers checkbox to see the thousands of assets from every scammer.


Interesting concept. I think this could be service providers. Not baked into the core of Nxt or only doable by the committees. This screams credit rating agencies and all the implications with it, but I like it. In the client, the user has options to select lists from the different trusted service providers who rates assets.

I see these rating agencies getting very rich Grin Of course, there could be rating service providers who don't accept any paying and are very trusted by the community, and thus frequently used by issuers.

The soft version of this would be the rating through the NXT holders via voting.
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could somebody send me testnxt ID: 1516955141010594979 thanks
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We can automatically create an +/- poll on asset creation, cost is not an issue and display this right along side the asset name. The assets that are popular will get a lot of votes and unless it is a scam or has big problems, it should be above 50% +

+1

i like this! i approve!  Grin
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[Solution for Asset Naming Issue]

BCNext has said that voting system was there for AE. I didnt realize how right he was (again) until recently. We can automatically create an +/- poll on asset creation, cost is not an issue and display this right along side the asset name. The assets that are popular will get a lot of votes and unless it is a scam or has big problems, it should be above 50% +


Additionally, I think we need a Preferred Issuers checkbox in the GUI's that will only display assets from Preferred Issuers. This totally gets rid of scammers as we make the fee to be a Preferred Issuer 10000 NXT, paid to the client devs for updating their software with the details about the Preferred Issuers. users can always uncheck the Preferred Issuers checkbox to see the thousands of assets from every scammer.

James

+1 to the above 2 ideas....especially PREFERRED ISSUERS CHECKBOX.

Edit: Only accounts created before the asset was issued can vote....as someone can still create a bunch of sockpuppets and vote for his asset.
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[Solution for Asset Naming Issue]


First off, any changes in how Asset Names are handled in the core will delay release of AE. It also impacts all the code written against the current spec. So, any solution that doesnt require NXT core changes wins any ties.

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James

Good post, I think we need something like "verified accounts" in Twitter. The asset issuer would need to give up his anonimity. This way we know who he is and he is less likely to scam. Verified account status can be taken away too.
I am glad you like it!

Please say you will just implement this Preferred Issuer filter checkbox and display of +/- voting and we can save thirty pages of debating it in a circle.

You have the power to let me code today instead of getting sucked into forum debating

James

Quick and easy solution. I like it Smiley
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btw, it seems like there will be non-unique asset names. jean luc and others likes that idea.
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+ yes please

quote jl777, "Please say you will just implement this Preferred Issuer filter checkbox and display of +/- voting and we can save thirty pages of debating it in a circle."

wesleyh this is a great idea for implementation that helps Nxt solve the issue of Issuer Trust.

I can only implement this if jean luc agrees to it, after all, if my client is to be put in the official package, it must get his approval.
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[Solution for Asset Naming Issue]

James

all these brilliant ideas should be channeled to the committees of experts for discussion, approval or rejection.

measure the quality of the assets by using the vote I feel great,
maybe I should even to be a troll box about the assets to give a reasoned opinion
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+ yes please

quote jl777, "Please say you will just implement this Preferred Issuer filter checkbox and display of +/- voting and we can save thirty pages of debating it in a circle."

wesleyh this is a great idea for implementation that helps Nxt solve the issue of Issuer Trust.
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community input needed:

Unique names for assets?
- of course.

I agree. Otherwise it could lead to confusion.
It would be pretty bad advertisement for Nxt if there would be a nice project, which attracts a lot of users and then idiots start creating assets with the same name consufing the users. They would most probably drop Nxt as a lot of users did previously because of the unfriendly client. (which will be history in a few days, I hope, thanks to wesleyh Smiley )
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... kick arse jl777 post ...

Thanks for everything you're doing jl777. I want to buy shares in you (and all the other people doing great things in this community), no wait, I already did, I bought shit loads of NXT for under 5 cents!

Keep up the good work man Smiley
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[Solution for Asset Naming Issue]


First off, any changes in how Asset Names are handled in the core will delay release of AE. It also impacts all the code written against the current spec. So, any solution that doesnt require NXT core changes wins any ties.

...

James

Good post, I think we need something like "verified accounts" in Twitter. The asset issuer would need to give up his anonimity. This way we know who he is and he is less likely to scam. Verified account status can be taken away too.
I am glad you like it!

Please say you will just implement this Preferred Issuer filter checkbox and display of +/- voting and we can save thirty pages of debating it in a circle.

You have the power to let me code today instead of getting sucked into forum debating

James
legendary
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The value of NXT *can never be very high* as it is basically just *fuel* to run the engine. There seem to be a lot of people in this forum
 who just "don't get this" (perhaps because "greed" is blinding them to reality).

I'm just going to let this reverberate here for a while. I don't even know what to say to this...yet

Good - let it "sink in" and hopefully a few others will too.


I totally understand what you are saying here and have said what I think is the exact same concept myself here:  


Asset exchange is a great idea.  Trading anything attached to a colored coin is a wonderful new capability.   My concern about asset exchange is that altho NXT HAS to be used as the transaction fee AND the colored coin, it DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THE ASSET ITSELF that is being traded.  So it is entirely possible that a SMALL AMOUNT of NXT will be used in trading literally MILLIONS of Bitcoins and DOGE back and forth, and these will be attached to 0.1 NXT colored coins shuffled around by 0.1 NXT transaction fees.  I am afraid a guy can go to Cryptsy to buy ONLY 100 or 1000 NXT and trade for YEARS shuffling around MILLIONS of Bitcoin and Doge.

In one sentence:  The introduction and use of NXT AE does not necessarily mean the creation of significant buying pressure and upward prices on NXT currency itself.

This is why we MUST continue to focus on the 1.0 cryptocoin fundamentals AS WELL AS plunge into the no-guarantees-of-success-or-profit world of 2.0 cryptoexchanges.
With NXT everyone can make progress in their own desired direction.
That is the power of decentralization. Nobody to dictate what can and cant be done
I know if I had to get approval for many of my ideas, they would pretty much all get shot down.

The valuation of NXT will correlate to the SUM of the value of NXT in all of its uses. We certainly cant ignore the 1.0 valuation, or the AE valuation, or the TBD based valuation.

Do them all, at the same time.

James
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