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legendary
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You tech heads on here have really dropped the ball on NXT. One you shouldn't have a thread with this many geeks discussing code to promote a coin.
Two you have all managed to create an environment that seems elitist and condescending. You have made it all seem so complicated for the average user that they eventually thought screw this i'm going to an easy to open platform clone of NXT. 


I own a ton of NXT this hurts me personally. What the hell is going on here, this isn't a coding party wise up or recognize you guys need to change or this coin is in the toilet. Well done....

This thread is were the developers are talking difficult stuff, this thread is very important and let us peak inside of de development of Nxt. For the average Joe these forums are more easier to understand: http://www.nextcoin.org and https://forums.nxtcrypto.org. Good luck!  Smiley
sr. member
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Except maybe ENTER to submit. Gotta be careful that people don't press it accidentally.. I like to force the user to move the mouse and click the submit button instead.

Oh - please allow that (even if it has to be a setting) - I *hate* using a mouse on a computer!



OK, a setting it is. But don't complain if you accidentally press it!! especially with password in sessionstorage.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
Except maybe ENTER to submit. Gotta be careful that people don't press it accidentally.. I like to force the user to move the mouse and click the submit button instead.

Oh - please allow that (even if it has to be via a setting) - I *hate* using a mouse on a computer!

I am using the same FF version I mentioned in the message - I already killed the window as it was stuck for minutes.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Edit: found problem, during rearranging code, the part that loads the password wasnt called, so a secretphrase of "" probably deserves to get an error Smiley

It's a legit secret phrase. It even has transactions!
I guess the problem was that it didnt have any NXT or assets to send, "unknown acct" error seems to be a catchall error?
sr. member
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What's uncomfortable about the clients ( http://nxtclients.org ) there are some great clients on there.

Yup - something to mull over and discuss with JL I think.

CIYAM , Ive asked myself several times the following:

why dont you port NXT to C++ and create a Bitcoin-like multiplatform desktop wallet for it , featuring COLD STORAGE of that cNXT

The masses will come to this quicker than one can see.

Nxt's java and utterly uncomfortable clients have been making many people disregard it, UNFORTUNATELY

c++ and proven wallet model for the win

Nxt is doomed to fail because it attracts almost nobody new -- which is why it cant go to the next level. it are 98% the same people in this community. no wide adoption at all,  because it is extremely user unfriendly compared to Bitcoin and co. it completely lacks the feeling of easy-going out of the box for most people.

we all know this, even CfB does but he doesnt care cuz hes a terminal geek and I respect that Grin
legendary
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sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
Still sends the pw to the server though, would need an API available but websockets are a good idea or something like that might be a good idea.

Yup - something to mull over and discuss with JL I think.

BTW - I tried "Add Contact" (to an unused address) and now I am just stuck on that dialog (Submitting button disabled and nothing responds).

Also I have sent you several "messages" about other things.


Hmm, I get no such errors. Which browser? Are you still on the page? Anything in the error console?

I've seen your messages, will implement.

Except maybe ENTER to submit. Gotta be careful that people don't press it accidentally.. I like to force the user to move the mouse and click the submit button instead.
newbie
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Merit: 0
A NXT paywall?

Offside the great technical stuff which is developed right now we have to consider, which features NXT should have for the Joe Doe, thereby he will pay with our currency in the internet.

I thought alot about at which places micropayment is used until now. There is flattr.com, for example. I have no idea how succesful it is but there is at minimum one point to critizise: It is not anonymous at all! The flattr-company knows who is paying/donating the money because you have to register with your adress, etc.

Then I remembered a topic, that at least was discussed by a great public in germany: Content at the internet is not free & the "mass mortality" of printmedia. In a row this discussion caused the development of paywalls.  Some small and some big newspaper (resp. their online-branch) implented paywalls between the user and their content.

So, in this field micropayments in the internet shall accepted by a great group of normal people.

Should'nt we focus on these paywalls and

1) try to convince the providers to implent NXT as one of the various ways to load your paywall-account?

2) try to provide our own NXT-driven paywall-client FOR FREE for all the smaller websites and businesses? If we compete with the big paywall-providers by offering the service completly free (except the transaction fee, of cause) I personally think some smaller businesses will use the service and they'll promote automatically NXT to a wider public.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Yup - something to mull over and discuss with JL I think.

CIYAM , Ive asked myself several times the following:

why dont you port NXT to C++ and create a Bitcoin-like multiplatform desktop wallet for it , featuring COLD STORAGE of that cNXT

The masses will come to this quicker than one can see.

Nxt's java and utterly uncomfortable clients have been making many people disregard it, UNFORTUNATELY

c++ and proven wallet model for the win

Nxt is doomed to fail because it attracts almost nobody new -- which is why it cant go to the next level. it are 98% the same people in this community. no wide adoption at all,  because it is extremely user unfriendly compared to Bitcoin and co. it completely lacks the feeling of easy-going out of the box for most people.

we all know this, even CfB does but he doesnt care cuz hes a terminal geek and I respect that Grin
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
Edit: found problem, during rearranging code, the part that loads the password wasnt called, so a secretphrase of "" probably deserves to get an error Smiley

It's a legit secret phrase. It even has transactions!
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
And the shopping module?

What shopping module?

I think he means the Store Front.

I'm working on Digital Goods Store. Dunno what Store Front is.
hero member
Activity: 655
Merit: 500
Good point!! Are there any people working on NXT who don't have a big enough stake to stay motivated? If there are we need to help them get a big stake. Maybe give them an option to buy in at a fixed price down the track.

I would give the option to James.

I second this motion.

Agreed, James is a critical guy for NXT and needs to have enough incentive to stay super motivated, like he has been so far.

What about you ricky, how well-hung are you when it comes to NXT? You're a key figure in this community too.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
Still sends the pw to the server though, would need an API available but websockets are a good idea or something like that might be a good idea.

Yup - something to mull over and discuss with JL I think.

BTW - I tried "Add Contact" (to an unused address) and now I am just stuck on that dialog (Submitting button disabled and nothing responds).

Also I have sent you several "messages" about other things.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Is there a technical reason why an acct without NXT cannot receive asset via transferAsset?

Does that account exist on the blockchain?
No public key

Edit: found problem, during rearranging code, the part that loads the password wasnt called, so a secretphrase of "" probably deserves to get an error Smiley
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Good point!! Are there any people working on NXT who don't have a big enough stake to stay motivated? If there are we need to help them get a big stake. Maybe give them an option to buy in at a fixed price down the track.

I would give the option to James.

I second this motion.
hero member
Activity: 586
Merit: 501
Here I am trying to invite devs - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5702106  Java programmers needed - hiring, up to 10 million Nxt for development  (Read 213 times)

+ http://justpaste.it/nxt-intro-4-academics

the link is also here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/cryptography/comments/20kwag/nxt_invites_cryptographers_devs_researchers_build/

It can be shared on more places... Maybe if jl777 and rickyjames provided more info Smiley

hi sorry you are missing the point. this is a very amateur listing.

how much do you pay per hour? can the devs have contracts? why don't you post a proper job description with approximations for the number of hours needed etc?

"we are hiring, there are java bounties, send emails to X,Y" is  not OK.

legendary
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Merit: 1010
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
Oh yeah, thanks, need to make an exception for forging, as far as I know this DOES require you send your password to the server.. (Because it needs to be able to sign the generated block).

Hmm... I wonder if we could do anything to improve that situation (maybe via a websocket?).

If we are going to have "trustless" then it would be best if it *was trustless* (i.e. no exception).


Right, fix online now at http://nxtra.org/nxt-client-trustless

Still sends the pw to the server though, would need an API available but websockets are a good idea or something like that might be a good idea.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
Oh yeah, thanks, need to make an exception for forging, as far as I know this DOES require you send your password to the server.. (Because it needs to be able to sign the generated block).

Hmm... I wonder if we could do anything to improve that situation (maybe via a websocket?).

If we are going to have "trustless" then it would be best if it *was trustless* (i.e. no exception).


The auth token should be able to be signed locally, right? Since the auth token contains the hash of both the secret phrase and server, this should prove ownership of the account...

Perhaps this can be a feature integrated in the NXT core? And only allow auth tokens generated recently to start forging, so old ones can't be abused.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
And the shopping module?

What shopping module?
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