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Some of the hoarders may have started dumping in the last days as we lost CIYAM and several marketers.

CIYAM does not leave Nxt. He just leaves this thread.
legendary
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I don't believe it will become popular, the benefits aren't that great, and it isn't as simple to start a dew descendant. Look at all the hard work we are doing here. I don't think a 'new guy' on Bitcointalk can overcome that. The founder is only 1 day on Bitcointalk, so it's not his main account. I don't trust that, not transparant. And what is NXJ? He doensn't even tell what it stand for. A bad clone in my opinion. I have more faith in NEM if I have to choose.
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Is it good or bad for Nxt?

P.S. I wish you would stop being so negative, it is kind of a downer
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If only price at the moment helped....

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If it was pointad at me:
I am critizing some views and ideas, I am not negative. These are two different things.
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clones wont get any of the assets and it seems pretty clear that the sum of the assets issued will be the dominant factor in valuation. Without assets or gateways or community a clone is only copying a small part of what makes NXT valuable

If you were deciding what platform to issue your coin on, would any of the clones even be on the short list? Nope. It will only include the main contenders, NXT, XCP, MSC for now. What advantage to an issuer is there to building on a clone?

James

P.S. I wish you would stop being so negative, it is kind of a downer

Yes, that's the difference between Nxt and the clones.

though I'd always like some free shares of any clones (money is money, forgive me, I'm poor Smiley), but Nxt is Nxt, it will be much more successful than any of the clones.
legendary
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I am trying to wrap my head around some of the developments here:

what will drive NXTcoin's value? if the asset exchange, though built on top of the nxt bloackchain will not be using NXTcoin as an internal mandatory token/coin with which one can conduct their business, and if nodecoins are derived from forging or for maintaining the network, so what is left for NXTcoin as an asset of exchange?

I can for example create a "NXT10" asset/coin on top of the NXT blockchain, pay 1000NXT for creating the asset in the first place and than denominate it with 10 0's after the decimal point and I go on to create my own market non related and with no need for NXT coin per se, just using the NXT network.

will forging than drive NXT value? not really because you still need to use NXT coin for something of economic value

where is the value proposition here as a NXT holder? if NXT is not a mandatory oil to the system (in other words one has to buy NXT and continue to for any action (like Etherium is planning for ETH), it seems that we are completely went away from a 1st generation coin functionality while we should be both.


Not sure I understand your logic. You make it sound like NXT is losing something by supporting assets.
Other than speculative value, what intrinsic value does any crypto currently have?

Assuming NXT gets used by a large number of asset issues (regardless of what it is), then the fact that it is using NXT gives value to NXT. All assets within NXT are denominated in NXT. It becomes the reserve currency

Think about an analogy.

You have some raw land with great potential. Currently it is only good for birds and some wildlife to use. Then one day, a big fancy shopping mall gets built on the land. The animals cant use the land anymore, but did the value of the land become worth more or less? Now it is not land anymore, it became part of the shopping mall real estate.

What if this shopping mall then became the center of a big city? How much is the land worth?

NXT is the raw land. As it is now, it is only of value to wild animals (crypto guys like us)

James
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NXT.org

Definitely not good for NXT if it becomes popular.
What people don't realize in this community is that popularity & community is the alpha and omega of success.
People actually think that if NXT (which is 100% open source) is good enough "technically" then the rest doesn't matter.
There is no changes in hoarding, no changes in incentives, community is shrinking, price is falling etc. and nothing happens.
These big hoarders have a collective IQ in double digits.
clones wont get any of the assets and it seems pretty clear that the sum of the assets issued will be the dominant factor in valuation. Without assets or gateways or community a clone is only copying a small part of what makes NXT valuable

If you were deciding what platform to issue your coin on, would any of the clones even be on the short list? Nope. It will only include the main contenders, NXT, XCP, MSC for now. What advantage to an issuer is there to building on a clone?

James

P.S. I wish you would stop being so negative, it is kind of a downer

I can't imagine that it would be hard to implement, given that NXT is 100% open source and people can do whatever they want with it.
I don't like the way NXT is headed towards centralization of power so that the big hoarders can control all of NXT.

It's not about being negative, it's about being realistic and fair.
We've already lost CIYAM and several other key people this week. These are people i have befriended and care about, when they start abandoning the project of different reasons I speak up. That is my right.

And it's not about being negative, I have asked for solutions, proposed solutions etc. for months now.
I put the first spotlight on development halting months ago. These are all issues that could've been solved, but hasn't been, so my "negativity" is founded in reality.
legendary
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I have tested your client on my iPhone 5 and iPad 4 with iOS 7.1. Here are some things I discovered:

The logo and the spinningwheel are not retina. (not that important, but retina just looks great!)

iPad landscape

Almost everything looks good, but in the Asset Exchange the two collums Buy and Sell give a problem to the wordt "Ammount".




iPad portrait

The links on the top are set at a fixed size, so they are to big and are displayed a bit to low over the header.




In some items a second menu is displayed (at Asset Exchange, Messages, etc) this menu is displayed on top of the normal menu on the left side. So the normal menu is not usable anymore. Maybe you can hide the menu and show it on top of everything, such as iNxt is doing in his app: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/inxt/id802351888?mt=8

iPhone landscape

The same problem with the links on the top is showing on the iPhone landscape.




I cannot scroll in the menu on the left side. When I scroll the total page, only the right side is scrolling. So I cannot access any menu-items below "Contacts".

Also is the second vertical menu (at Asset Exchange, Messages, etc) covering the menu on the left side. Once I am in the Asset Exchange I cannot go back to other menuitems.

iPhone portrait

The splashscreen can use some more padding between buttons:



When I am a registrered user there isn't much padding around the logo and boxes.



We see the same problems with the menu's as in the iPhone landscape version:



and the transaction id's are to big too in on the iPhone:




Hope this will help you! Good luck!




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NXT.org
There is no changes in hoarding, no changes in incentives, community is shrinking, price is falling etc. and nothing happens.

Isn't the price falling because of some changes in hoarding?


No the price is falling because interest is diminishing.
Some of the hoarders may have started dumping in the last days as we lost CIYAM and several marketers.
full member
Activity: 126
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There is no changes in hoarding, no changes in incentives, community is shrinking, price is falling etc. and nothing happens.

Isn't the price falling because of some changes in hoarding?
full member
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I am trying to wrap my head around some of the developments here:

what will drive NXTcoin's value? if the asset exchange, though built on top of the nxt bloackchain will not be using NXTcoin as an internal mandatory token/coin with which one can conduct their business, and if nodecoins are derived from forging or for maintaining the network, so what is left for NXTcoin as an asset of exchange?

I can for example create a "NXT10" asset/coin on top of the NXT blockchain, pay 1000NXT for creating the asset in the first place and than denominate it with 10 0's after the decimal point and I go on to create my own market non related and with no need for NXT coin per se, just using the NXT network.

will forging than drive NXT value? not really because you still need to use NXT coin for something of economic value

where is the value proposition here as a NXT holder? if NXT is not a mandatory oil to the system (in other words one has to buy NXT and continue to for any action (like Etherium is planning for ETH), it seems that we are completely went away from a 1st generation coin functionality while we should be both.

legendary
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Is it good or bad for Nxt?

P.S. I wish you would stop being so negative, it is kind of a downer
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If only price at the moment helped....

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Price and Value are seemingly at a disconnect. I have proof!

AUR

James

P.S. Actually with AUR, it is a matter of extreme scarcity over 10% of float seems to be trading everyday
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glad to hear this

This is actually related to my upcoming business coin

... and this

I have already started taking steps towards it.
legendary
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Does anybody know (or have experience with) https://moolah.io/

I see they are selling prototype multi-currency ATMs with BTC, LTC, DOGE for around $600. Raspberry Pi based.

https://moolah.io/atm

This could make an interesting NXT project with it both running on NXT and selling it. Worth looking into?


NXT ATM running on raspberry? Sounds pretty cool!
legendary
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Yeah! I hate ShroomsKit!
Is it good or bad for Nxt?
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P.S. I wish you would stop being so negative, it is kind of a downer
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If only price at the moment helped....
hero member
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wow, they have 15 descendants already? Nxt must be suuper, look at it!
legendary
Activity: 1176
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Definitely not good for NXT if it becomes popular.
What people don't realize in this community is that popularity & community is the alpha and omega of success.
People actually think that if NXT (which is 100% open source) is good enough "technically" then the rest doesn't matter.
There is no changes in hoarding, no changes in incentives, community is shrinking, price is falling etc. and nothing happens.
These big hoarders have a collective IQ in double digits.
clones wont get any of the assets and it seems pretty clear that the sum of the assets issued will be the dominant factor in valuation. Without assets or gateways or community a clone is only copying a small part of what makes NXT valuable

If you were deciding what platform to issue your coin on, would any of the clones even be on the short list? Nope. It will only include the main contenders, NXT, XCP, MSC for now. What advantage to an issuer is there to building on a clone?

James

P.S. I wish you would stop being so negative, it is kind of a downer
sr. member
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I could add it. Just a thing that logs the URLs sent?

And responses received. Not urgent, but could be useful...

OK cool.
legendary
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Newbie
I could add it. Just a thing that logs the URLs sent?

And responses received. Not urgent, but could be useful...
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Guys/girls/things:

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Everyone can also see our list of issues that we've been brainstorming all week. Please post ideas to the thread above or PM us and we'll get them onto the issue tracker for discussion and review.

https://bitbucket.org/nxtinfrastructure/committee/issues?status=new&status=open

ok, I just sent you a proposal by PM.
I really want to see if you will get them onto the issue tracker for discussion and review.  Shocked
sr. member
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You'd have to ask the user I guess.

Is there some kind of a console in ur client?

I could add it. Just a thing that logs the URLs sent?
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