NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 47.

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 01:16:40 PM

Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 01:12:19 PM

You mean someone that wants to donate to the millionares that created this thing can't be bothered to enter an account #?!? Color me skeptical. Do we even know who owns that non account?

everyone owns that account, you know how to enter it yourself Wink

If you send NXT there, than the first person to detect that, will send the NXT to his own account. In your case the NXT went to this account: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=15403621473314136443

Maybe he runs a program that checks the "easy" account numbers for incoming transfers.

I think this is so really stupid argument. If I want to donate it, I would rather donate it to someone I know, rather to random hacker running a bot by sending them to "null" account.

I doubt anyone sending nxt to "null" account are donating it. They are all new users making the same mistake. There is no point in arguing it's not a problem. Brain Wallet by itself is a for very advanced users who understand entropy.

It should be make much harder for users to just enter any random (or nothing) as pass phrase

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 01:16:40 PM

Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 01:12:19 PM

You mean someone that wants to donate to the millionares that created this thing can't be bothered to enter an account #?!? Color me skeptical. Do we even know who owns that non account?

everyone owns that account, you know how to enter it yourself Wink

If you send NXT there, than the first person to detect that, will send the NXT to his own account. In your case the NXT went to this account: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=15403621473314136443

Maybe he runs a program that checks the "easy" account numbers for incoming transfers.

Sweet. I'm sure I'm the first to unintentionally donate.

This coin just gets worse and worse. It's like reading about ripple.

Wonder if "he" runs a program to check for easy passwords that aren't blank as well.

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Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 01:12:19 PM

You mean someone that wants to donate to the millionares that created this thing can't be bothered to enter an account #?!? Color me skeptical. Do we even know who owns that non account?

everyone owns that account, you know how to enter it yourself Wink

If you send NXT there, than the first person to detect that, will send the NXT to his own account. In your case the NXT went to this account: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=15403621473314136443

Maybe he runs a program that checks the "easy" account numbers for incoming transfers.

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Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 01:12:19 PM

You mean someone that wants to donate to the millionares that created this thing can't be bothered to enter an account #?!? Color me skeptical. Do we even know who owns that non account?

No one and everyone owns it, that's the point of donating to it.

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You mean someone that wants to donate to the millionares that created this thing can't be bothered to enter an account #?!? Color me skeptical. Do we even know who owns that non account?

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Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 01:09:21 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 01:08:03 PM

Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 01:03:59 PM

Good luck. Too bad it wasn't made clear previously. Perhaps the owner of that null account wouldn't have received so many unintended donations.

Unbelievable that this hasn't been addressed after months.

Why don't you accept some coins and try out some of the cool features, that NO other coin has?

Seriously unimpressed with the arrogant attitude of most of the next supporters here. If this is such a tiny problem then why does the null account have so many transactions?

Because some people send coins there to "donate" them. Sounds strange, but it is very easy to donate coins that way instead of just abandoning your account.

PS: also in the last 30 days there was only your transaction.

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 01:08:03 PM

Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 01:03:59 PM

Good luck. Too bad it wasn't made clear previously. Perhaps the owner of that null account wouldn't have received so many unintended donations.

Unbelievable that this hasn't been addressed after months.

Why don't you accept some coins and try out some of the cool features, that NO other coin has?

Seriously unimpressed with the arrogant attitude of most of the next supporters here. If this is such a tiny problem then why does the null account have so many transactions?

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Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 01:03:59 PM

Good luck. Too bad it wasn't made clear previously. Perhaps the owner of that null account wouldn't have received so many unintended donations.

Unbelievable that this hasn't been addressed after months.

Why don't you accept some coins and try out some of the cool features, that NO other coin has?

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Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 01:03:59 PM

Unbelievable that this hasn't been addressed after months.

We can only lead a horse to water.

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Good luck. Too bad it wasn't made clear previously. Perhaps the owner of that null account wouldn't have received so many unintended donations.

Unbelievable that this hasn't been addressed after months. This is a crypto with a cap of 61,780BTC or nearly $28m.

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Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 12:55:20 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 12:52:35 PM

Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 12:48:57 PM

Quote from: timmyd on April 05, 2014, 12:43:36 PM

if i go to a bank to make a deposit. i makes sure i have the correct account number and sort code. enuf sed

More than enough. If I give the banker a deposit slip without an account number, what happens? Does she send the dollars to her own account?

Pretty basic logic check I would think.

People sending their next coins to a null account ARE partly to blame, but this lack of refinement in a crypto client that claims to be btc 2.0 is a huge turn off.

This analogy doesnt work because you entered an account number and it was indeed valid. I Knie this Situation sucks and there would be ways to prevent that, but double checking on the cunsumer end would have also saved you.

Sure would have. I could have looked up block explorer and made sure that the account number on my screen was not active since last november. Yeah, there are lots of things I could have done but didn't.

Now how many people that are new to crypto even know what a block explorer is? This coin will not be taken seriously as a competitor to btc if it can't get it's sh1t together after months.

No, that wasn't what i meant.

When i create a NXT account i use keepass, and I note the Account number. Then i log out and log in again with the password, to check if the password works.

Then when I want to receive NXT I just use the account number i wrote down.

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Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 12:55:20 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 12:52:35 PM

Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 12:48:57 PM

Quote from: timmyd on April 05, 2014, 12:43:36 PM

if i go to a bank to make a deposit. i makes sure i have the correct account number and sort code. enuf sed

More than enough. If I give the banker a deposit slip without an account number, what happens? Does she send the dollars to her own account?

Pretty basic logic check I would think.

People sending their next coins to a null account ARE partly to blame, but this lack of refinement in a crypto client that claims to be btc 2.0 is a huge turn off.

This analogy doesnt work because you entered an account number and it was indeed valid. I Knie this Situation sucks and there would be ways to prevent that, but double checking on the cunsumer end would have also saved you.

Sure would have. I could have looked up block explorer and made sure that the account number on my screen was not active since last november. Yeah, there are lots of things I could have done but didn't.

Now how many people that are new to crypto even know what a block explorer is? This coin will not be taken seriously as a competitor to btc if it can't get it's sh1t together after months.

Your password is what you use to access your bank account, but your account # is what's used to identify your account and send money, seems pretty easy to understand to me, but I guess I haven't been in crypto as long as you. Anyway, we will learn from your mistake and make it clear to other newbies.

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 12:52:35 PM

Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 12:48:57 PM

Quote from: timmyd on April 05, 2014, 12:43:36 PM

if i go to a bank to make a deposit. i makes sure i have the correct account number and sort code. enuf sed

More than enough. If I give the banker a deposit slip without an account number, what happens? Does she send the dollars to her own account?

Pretty basic logic check I would think.

People sending their next coins to a null account ARE partly to blame, but this lack of refinement in a crypto client that claims to be btc 2.0 is a huge turn off.

This analogy doesnt work because you entered an account number and it was indeed valid. I Knie this Situation sucks and there would be ways to prevent that, but double checking on the cunsumer end would have also saved you.

Sure would have. I could have looked up block explorer and made sure that the account number on my screen was not active since last november. Yeah, there are lots of things I could have done but didn't.

Now how many people that are new to crypto even know what a block explorer is? This coin will not be taken seriously as a competitor to btc if it can't get it's sh1t together after months.

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Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 12:48:57 PM

Quote from: timmyd on April 05, 2014, 12:43:36 PM

if i go to a bank to make a deposit. i makes sure i have the correct account number and sort code. enuf sed

More than enough. If I give the banker a deposit slip without an account number, what happens? Does she send the dollars to her own account?

Pretty basic logic check I would think.

People sending their next coins to a null account ARE partly to blame, but this lack of refinement in a crypto client that claims to be btc 2.0 is a huge turn off.

This analogy doesnt work because you entered an account number and it was indeed valid. I Knie this Situation sucks and there would be ways to prevent that, but double checking on the cunsumer end would have also saved you.

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 12:39:16 PM

Quote from: BitcoinForumator on April 05, 2014, 12:36:23 PM

Infiniti poker tried, but it also lacks traffic. (don't think they had HUDs available though)

Anyways, a great looking and fast UI is a must. + traffic + HUD

Half a year back, I made a movement to let stars know that they should accept BTC. They said that they are even trying it out at the moment (That was way back in september 2013) but since then no move has been made. I guess they don't think it will be viable, or that they would become a BTC exchange that way essentially.

Hope they just introduce BTC and some BTC tables, would be awesome for the economy of cryptos.

Yes, Stars is the only one (maybe FullTilt and 888 have what it takes), the rest is just a joke. Altough, Stars is weird as far as the "dealer" is concerned. Something fishy is going on there.

Now if there was a NXT poker on this level

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Quote from: timmyd on April 05, 2014, 12:43:36 PM

if i go to a bank to make a deposit. i makes sure i have the correct account number and sort code. enuf sed

More than enough. If I give the banker a deposit slip without an account number, what happens? Does she send the dollars to her own account?

Pretty basic logic check I would think.

People sending their next coins to a null account ARE partly to blame, but this lack of refinement in a crypto client that claims to be btc 2.0 is a huge turn off. Should have been fixed months ago, yet the client is still proudly displayed on the OP(which is itself a 2.0). Unimpressed.

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if i go to a bank to make a deposit. i makes sure i have the correct account number and sort code. enuf sed

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Quote from: BitcoinForumator on April 05, 2014, 12:36:23 PM

Infiniti poker tried, but it also lacks traffic. (don't think they had HUDs available though)

Anyways, a great looking and fast UI is a must. + traffic + HUD

Half a year back, I made a movement to let stars know that they should accept BTC. They said that they are even trying it out at the moment (That was way back in september 2013) but since then no move has been made. I guess they don't think it will be viable, or that they would become a BTC exchange that way essentially.

Hope they just introduce BTC and some BTC tables, would be awesome for the economy of cryptos.

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 12:29:18 PM

Quote from: BitcoinForumator on April 05, 2014, 12:26:19 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 12:17:45 PM

Quote from: Eadeqa on April 05, 2014, 12:16:14 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 12:10:31 PM

Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 12:09:00 PM

Thanks. If you think I'm the lowest common denominator intellectually, then well, I hope you're financially diversified.

Haha, good post

It is true that we need to make a failsafe client for really computer-retarded persons. But a client like Offspring is close to that. Can't make much wrong with it!

New users are going to go to http://www.nxtcrypto.org/ and download the default NRS server -- Most won't even know "Offspring" exists.

The build-in client (that was supposed to be temporary) that comes with NRS server needs to be replaced. This will solve most password related user errors.

Totally agree. When introducing friends or fellow pokerplayers to NXT I always send them to nxtclient.org and stell them to now install the main client, because it is too much hassle to set it up. But I am sure we will figure out a solution to that soon.

After 5 years there still isn't a good poker room for coiners. Seals with clubs doesn't cut it. If there was a room on the level of a proven regular poker room, UI wise (Pokerstars, iPoker, or at least 888-Pacific Poker) then I would definitely play there.

Seals is okayish. One of the downsides is the lack of traffic. Other than that, they try hard to ímprove, but they don't have a lot of funding!

Since FPDB added SWC, playing with a HUD is much more preferrable.

Infiniti poker tried, but it also lacks traffic. (don't think they had HUDs available though)

Anyways, a great looking and fast UI is a must. + traffic + HUD

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 12:27:06 PM

Quote from: Eadeqa on April 05, 2014, 12:25:42 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 12:17:45 PM

Quote from: Eadeqa on April 05, 2014, 12:16:14 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on April 05, 2014, 12:10:31 PM

Quote from: solarion on April 05, 2014, 12:09:00 PM

Thanks. If you think I'm the lowest common denominator intellectually, then well, I hope you're financially diversified.

Haha, good post

It is true that we need to make a failsafe client for really computer-retarded persons. But a client like Offspring is close to that. Can't make much wrong with it!

New users are going to go to http://www.nxtcrypto.org/ and download the default NRS server -- Most won't even know "Offspring" exists.

The build-in client (that was supposed to be temporary) that comes with NRS server needs to be replaced. This will solve most password related user errors.

Totally agree. When introducing friends or fellow pokerplayers to NXT I always send them to nxtclient.org and stell them to now install the main client, because it is too much hassle to set it up. But I am sure we will figure out a solution to that soon.

I guess nxtcrypto.org should redirect users to nxtclient.org from the download link. NRS is the "server". Something like the main backbone. The clients interact with it. Anyone can write any type of client (like Offspring with wallet.dat as option) that interacts with NRS server. NRS comes with it's own (very basic) client javascript client, but it was always intended to be temporary.

Who manages the site? Might be a good idea to change that, until the new UI comes out.

I think it's QBT who runs that site.

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