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Guys I need some links for educating someone in NXT!

Is there any concerted effort being made to compile information to a single, comprehensive source? there are a lot of places to find info, and a lot of people putting out info, it may be a good idea and a good time for there to be an effort to consolidate and reorganize usable information to a single and definitive source and to coordinate this effort between the people who are working on it. There is so much info out there in so many sources, and in so many forms and styles that it is kind of confusing and really a lot of work to self educate on NXT; And there is no form of cohesion or method to its structure. There IS no single article, blog, interview, podcast, forum thread or any other media source that does it justice as a stand alone source of info. Anon136 was posting last night about how he felt he had given a bad interview on NXT, but that only stands to reason, as the nature of NXT makes it impossible to be educated on in a brief info session, and the lack of cohesiveness in the information that is available only serves to magnify this. It may be a good time to start a coordinated effort to supply a source of info that is more unified, accurate, and complete and is organized in a way as to accommodate specific targeted audiences (technical information seekers, and basic information seekers). I think it would serve the community better and make it seem like we had our stuff together a little more to pursue this. I have come into the community just recently and have spent a lot of time looking, and bugging people with questions to learn about NXT, and this has made me aware of this chink it the NXT armor. I think there is a lot of good info out there, and a lot of talented people who know a lot about NXT and care a lot. But with the way that NXT has grown and with the way that info about it is dispersed as a result of that growth it might be a good Idea to supply a more easy to access, consolidated source of info. Get everyone on the same page so to speak. If there were a group effort, coordinated and outlined for that purpose I think it would be beneficial to the growth of NXT, and would not burden one person with such a daunting task.

if there is an effort to do so, I would like to help if there is help needed. If there has not been such an effort I would like to suggest it and offer help.

Something like a NXT secretary, scribe, or archivist?
Yes. Something to compile existing info, clarify, update and fill in gaps or make more accurate. And also index info for easier access by different demographics. Now that it seems as though the structure of the network is coming together solidly, and details are being be made more concrete. It would be advantageous to have a ready supply of easily accessed info assembled. If there isn't something already. There is a lot more to NXT than it being a coin; it is capable of a lot more. I don't want the fact that people can be lazy and the fact that this info takes effort to find, sort through and digest to create an impression on people that it is just a coin. We should spoon feed the info and impression we want to make, and keep people from having to search around; eliminate redundancy, and provide info that is accurate and concise and propagates NXT in a light of the community interest.
here you have 30 pages about Nxt created from weeks of archivist works Cheesy (Nxt Myths)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwAGADgnQcrtM3g1cU1VSHZtTGM/edit?usp=sharing
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NXT is the future
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-Implemented Curve25519 algorithm:
  * NXT Solaris is now a bit like "Electrum for NXT" (a thin client that does not download the complete blockchain, connecting to untrusted NRS nodes)
...

Very cool I think this is what the community has been needing to really help adoption.  But lets talk about this from a trust and sustainability perspective...  I had initially thought that eventually, all the public VPSs that I and others have been running with donated funds would no longer be needed when the network got large enough with mass mass adoption. But with thin clients, there will *have* to be something stable for them to connect to.  Assuming NXT really takes off like we want it too, are we prepared (and is the centralization really even appropriate) to continue running a core of  public hallmarked VPSs for the purposes of servicing thin clients?  IF that is the desire, then at some point this sort-of-centralized network of public VPSs we have now will need funds to renew (I believe the 12 I am paying for with bounty should be good till EoY, and the other 13 that I manage are up to the owners to continue payment) as well as possible additional fees for extra bandwidth and CPU/memory upgrades if they end up getting hit hard for utilization.

Is there a better non-centralized model? Or am I too paranoid?  Do we just continue the current course?

just continue imo, funds is (or must be) reserved in the infrastructure unclaimed coins I tought.
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Version 0.3.6 of Nxs has been released. Some of the changes:

  • The ability to download NRS and check it against the SHA-256 hash that existed in html/tools/update.html has been integrated in the Nxs UI. You can now click the Nxt logo and see the About Nxs dialog which shows the version numbers for both NRS and Nxs. If either one is outdated, an "Update" button appears. For NRS, you may drag your zip file into a drop zone to check the hash.
  • Two shell scripts were added, install.sh and update.sh, for installing and updating Nxs and NRS on Linux. This feature should be very much considered "alpha" at this point and may not work exactly as expected. I have tested it enough that I am satisfied to a level that permits me to publicize it, but cannot guarantee there won't be bugs. Please check out the verify-hash.sh script that both install.sh and update.sh use to ensure I have properly implemented the SHA-256 hash verification. I am no command line expert, so it would be nice to have some confirmation from someone a little more experienced in this area.
  • The files that existed from NRS' html/tools directory, admin.html and message.html, have been removed from Nxs root directory. The functionality of both of these files will soon be integrated into Nxs' UI. In the meantime, those files are still available at html/tools of course.

A full change log is available here.

I'm always happy to hear comments, questions, concerns, and suggestions from the community. Feel free to give me your feedback in this thread, through a private message, or even open an issue on the GitHub repo.

I should also add that, as a non-believer in the concept of intellectual property, I welcome anyone to use any of the code in your own projects with or without credit. My goal is not one of recognition, but rather to improve the software we have available to us in the Nxt community. For example, Wesley's client may benefit from using the Language class at assets/js/language.js to integrate multiple languages.
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The long term eco benefits of this coin are great. Transaction fees are quite high at the moment though, but a worthy long term hold.
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Here is version 2.1 of my Windows NXT client "NXT Solaris".


Changelog
-Compatibilty fixes for NRS 0.8.x
-Implemented Curve25519 algorithm:
  * NXT Solaris is now a bit like "Electrum for NXT" (a thin client that does not download the complete blockchain, connecting to untrusted NRS nodes)
  * It is now safe to connect to public NRS nodes (except for forging).
  * As default, NXT Solaris no connects to a random public node.
  * Currently a static list of public nodes that allow API calls from anyone from the text file public_nodes.txt is used.
  * NRS and Java are now longer distributed with NRS Solaris.
  * You will get a warning in the secret input dialog if the secret is transmitted over http to the remote NRS node (only with start/stop forging).
  * If you want to forge, run your own NRS instance locally and set up NXT Solaris to connect to your instance.
-Since there is no batch mode in the NRS API:
  * Details for peers are no longer retrieved as default
  * A maximum of 50 (yet unkown) transactions per account are fetched from the NRS node whenever there is a new block
-Fixed null exchange rates when www.cryptocoincharts.info is down

NXT: 1758531264253431177

This is very nice and was really needed.  All clients should implement this.  Ordinary users with small amount of Nxt would not need  to install java or run NRS server. This can  mean that non-techie ordinary users can use it much easier but still stay safe.

Don't let the users create their own master passwords for new accounts and make sure you give them enough warning to backup  their "wallet" (i.e master password) or they will lose their accounts.

Also, the master password should NOT be saved to hard drive without encryption . The user would need an encryption password (local password, could be much smaller/weaker)



 






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...
-Implemented Curve25519 algorithm:
  * NXT Solaris is now a bit like "Electrum for NXT" (a thin client that does not download the complete blockchain, connecting to untrusted NRS nodes)
...

Very cool I think this is what the community has been needing to really help adoption.  But lets talk about this from a trust and sustainability perspective...  I had initially thought that eventually, all the public VPSs that I and others have been running with donated funds would no longer be needed when the network got large enough with mass mass adoption. But with thin clients, there will *have* to be something stable for them to connect to.  Assuming NXT really takes off like we want it too, are we prepared (and is the centralization really even appropriate) to continue running a core of  public hallmarked VPSs for the purposes of servicing thin clients?  IF that is the desire, then at some point this sort-of-centralized network of public VPSs we have now will need funds to renew (I believe the 12 I am paying for with bounty should be good till EoY, and the other 13 that I manage are up to the owners to continue payment) as well as possible additional fees for extra bandwidth and CPU/memory upgrades if they end up getting hit hard for utilization.

Is there a better non-centralized model? Or am I too paranoid?  Do we just continue the current course?
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We don't need another exchange like Mintpal. THEY need a coin like NXT. These exchanges are just like alt-coins. out for a quick buck. We need to support James and his DAC project. then we can change all coins and not pay fees to these leeches, who only serve to piss us off and not reply to messages.
And then go bankrupt. Or lose our coins.

Trusting (exchanges) is against BCnxts ideas.

Trust no one.
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I blasted out the generous 1 million Nxt donation about 15 minutes ago to our list. CoinTropolis continues to do what we can for the Nxt community. As more press releases are created, we'll get those out immediately.


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NXT Funding Committee Candidate Statement - JustaBit

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5417724
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Hi Guys,

Just an update on the NXT market at MintPal. We really regret to say that we won't be able to add it. While our scripts were largely working, we simply didn't have the confidence or understanding required for it, in comparison to Bitcoin and other altcoins, especially when it comes to handling trading.

We will be refunding all voting payments in 48 hours automatically, though you can contact us if you require an alternative arrangement.

Full announcement here - https://support.mintpal.com/index.php?module=announce&sec=view&id=7



That is very disappointing (understatement). What did you not understand exactly? What were you not confident in?

Let them refund the money first and then talk about it later.
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#Free market
It' a bug  in the Nxt server :

Example :

Quote
{"balance":684600,"effectiveBalance":684600,"unconfirmedBalance":684300}

Are you sure thats a bug?  That tells me that the nrs instance returning that api has, just prior to that api request, processed a sedMoney request from that account for 3.00 nxt, and that transaction has just not yet been written to a block

Yes , I'm sure  Cool

where can I go to read more on the bug?  FWIW the scenario I described is 100% legitimate, so I must have missed the bug discussion on your particular scenario

Read this two posts :


- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5403567

- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5403616

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Ok cfb now that source dis released, what was the fatal injected flaw, and how couldyou have killed it in under a day

Will be disclosed after the 3rd of April.
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It' a bug  in the Nxt server :

Example :

Quote
{"balance":684600,"effectiveBalance":684600,"unconfirmedBalance":684300}

Are you sure thats a bug?  That tells me that the nrs instance returning that api has, just prior to that api request, processed a sedMoney request from that account for 3.00 nxt, and that transaction has just not yet been written to a block

Yes , I'm sure  Cool

where can I go to read more on the bug?  FWIW the scenario I described is 100% legitimate, so I must have missed the bug discussion on your particular scenario
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I'm considering locking this thread on page 2100.  What are everyones' thoughts?

I don't want to interrupt communication, but I think we would make more progress if we were better organized.

Poll - https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=839

Thought on this for a while...

1. We do need to be organised BUT this thread DOES NOT stop us doing that.
2. This thread is a COMPLETE PAIN to keep up with and AMAZING at the SAME time
3. This thread allows for a huge amount of crossover between the vast activity ongoing
4. When we pick up on things we are interested we can find and go over to other threads and stay or leave if we want to get involved deeper.
5. What we could do better is how we take stuff off to other threads where it needed to be worked on sometimes and then bring some news back to this thread.
6. People could also be more responsible quoting and NOT quote an entire page - just the key parts.
7. There are so many people reading and posting lots of new connections are made every day.

I fear that if we lose this forum we will lose something valuable, in pursuit of organisation we will lose something that helps keep us aligned and we will be more organised but fragmented with less innovation as a result.

If people can't read the thread - there is always the newsletters which i have to say is a great commitment by some of the community members to keep up to date.
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Guys I need some links for educating someone in NXT!

Is there any concerted effort being made to compile information to a single, comprehensive source?

If only we had a wiki!
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3. Before actually enabling Asset Exchange, I need to make the transition from storing transaction amounts and fees in Nxt to nano-Nxt (0.000000001 Nxt), or whatever fits in a Java long
Are you gonna use floating point?

in Nxt to nano-Nxt (0.000000001 Nxt), or whatever fits in a Java long
Are you gonna use floating point?

or whatever fits in a Java long
Are you gonna use floating point?

Java long
Are you gonna use floating point?

i love you man.  (no homo)
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i dont like lists with everyone's name except mine.
Really?

Now seriously.

neat. this is what we need. less charity, bounties and rewards and more bootstrapping companies on the blockchain.
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lol, java long is an integer data type not float. That is java basic: http://www.tutorialspoint.com/java/java_basic_datatypes.htm

So why the hell he is asking this stupid question? Of course it would not be float.

Well, not everyone knows programming.  Wink
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lol, java long is an integer data type not float. That is java basic: http://www.tutorialspoint.com/java/java_basic_datatypes.htm

So why the hell he is asking this stupid question? Of course it would not be float.
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#Free market
speak of the devil. I just lost internet and all my ssh sessions got terminated along with all three of the gateways. I think there were a few pending transactions, so this is a good test to see if recreating the state from blockchain is working.

I am having some server issues, they keep saying "bind() failed: Address already in use", but all prior instances have been gone for a while...

Edit: OK, all three gateways are rescanning blockchain, just from the first possible timestamp

Could that have been why I was just seeing 'not enough funds' when trying to send DOGE back to my wallet?

I'll try sending back/forth again after my confirmations complete.

It' a bug  in the Nxt server :

Example :

Quote
{"balance":684600,"effectiveBalance":684600,"unconfirmedBalance":684300}

Are you sure thats a bug?  That tells me that the nrs instance returning that api has, just prior to that api request, processed a sedMoney request from that account for 3.00 nxt, and that transaction has just not yet been written to a block

Yes , I'm sure  Cool
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