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legendary
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Once again, someone needs to clarify some things for me. Please correct the following process, it could be total bullshit:

1. James uses AE + AM and three servers to make a gateway for external coins
2. Sending DOGE to the gateway triggers an automated process to send DOGE assets from the Nxt accounts of the servers to the sender's Nxt account
3. Sending DOGE assets back to the gateway triggers the servers to send DOGE coins back to a DOGE address
You got it!
Each gateway server runs its own bitcoind.
Deposits are handled independently by each gateway and swept into a 2 of 3 multisig acct
Withdrawals require all three gateways to generate the identical rawtransaction bytes, which will only happen if all three bitcoind's are in full agreement as to the state of the multisig acct.

You establish a deposit address and a withdrawal address. This only needs to be done once, but can be done more often.

Now, you have a deposit address that links directly into NXT AE "My Assets". Send coins to the deposit address and they automatically end up inside NXT.

For withdrawal, transfer the coin asset back to the gateway (or issuer) and it will get sent to your withdraw address, automatically. That is assuming that all three servers agree and at least two of them signoff on it

James

P.S. The way it is setup any bitcoind fork crypto can easily be added to the gateway
legendary
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-Implemented Curve25519 algorithm:
  * NXT Solaris is now a bit like "Electrum for NXT" (a thin client that does not download the complete blockchain, connecting to untrusted NRS nodes)
...

Very cool I think this is what the community has been needing to really help adoption.  But lets talk about this from a trust and sustainability perspective...  I had initially thought that eventually, all the public VPSs that I and others have been running with donated funds would no longer be needed when the network got large enough with mass mass adoption. But with thin clients, there will *have* to be something stable for them to connect to.  Assuming NXT really takes off like we want it too, are we prepared (and is the centralization really even appropriate) to continue running a core of  public hallmarked VPSs for the purposes of servicing thin clients?  IF that is the desire, then at some point this sort-of-centralized network of public VPSs we have now will need funds to renew (I believe the 12 I am paying for with bounty should be good till EoY, and the other 13 that I manage are up to the owners to continue payment) as well as possible additional fees for extra bandwidth and CPU/memory upgrades if they end up getting hit hard for utilization.

Is there a better non-centralized model? Or am I too paranoid?  Do we just continue the current course?
I think we will always need the NXT hubs, especially to have the ability to handle high TPS. If people lease their forging across all the NXT hubs, then we will have high percentage of the stake forging. With the high TPS, even .01 NXT fees will add up and should be enough to pay for the server costs.

I also envision the NXT hubs running a layer of NXT services (like the gateway), which will also generate enough fees to pay for costs, possibly a lot more.

Alternate models are selling data subscription services that the NXT hubs provide, eg. full blockchain, etc.

James
legendary
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I think the format of what Damelon is doing is exactly what I was talking about. I read his blogs sometimes when they are posted on facebook, didn't realize there was an ongoing library on this site. There should be a link to his blog on the NXT website.

I like how there is an indication at the top of the blog indicating it's topic relevance and in a sense its technical and difficulty level. I would suggest putting info on there that is more basic and descriptive of NX;.

Stuff aimed at audiences who are new to NXT or new to cryptos entirely, and more advanced technical stuff aimed at audiences who are in need of that type of info, as an improvement on what he has done. His work is NXT grad student. It would be nice to have Nxt undergrad and NXT college prep and NXT doctoral work in the same location and in the same format as what he is doing, and to have that site be the go to site for info. That would be a perfect example of my meaning.

I have read Damelon's stuff as I stated previously and it has helped me, but some of it above my level of knowledge as I am not so indoctrinated, and in his own work he admits his own lack of indoctrination in the highly technical. No offense to Damelon, as his work is really done well. He is a propaganda master.

But he is doing relativity and quantum mechanics. There is no Sting theory. There is no Newton. Not a knock to Damelon or a knock to anyone else who has been doing this kind of stuff. It is just that the topic of NXT is so vast. As much as I am in love with the thought of decentralizing the NXT economy as much as possible, I like the idea of centralized NXT information.

I guess that is what my point is. If more basic info and more tech info were added to what he is doing, coupled with the format he is using that allows for updating and audience targeting, when someone asked for a place to look to learn about NXT they could be directed there and would have to look no further.

They could go there and easily index information at a level that they could grasp with out having to search all over the place, sift through info that they are not capable of understanding or info that is elementary and redundant to them. Information that would highlight NXT to our communities advantage and indoctrinate in the ways of NXT.

You're not bashing me at all: you're giving me helpful pointers Smiley

I líke the idea of topics ordered according to "school levels".

I won't be able to make the university parts, but I can do the simpler stuff, like explaining why cryptos exist in the first place. That even gives me the opportunity to go into the philosophy behind it, which is fun!

I have been thinking about doing stuff like that anyway, but needed a format, and you just provided it, so thanks!

This is exactly why I like this thread, by the way. This wouldn't have come up if it wásn't such a chaotic place Wink

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Guys I need some links for educating someone in NXT!

Is there any concerted effort being made to compile information to a single, comprehensive source? there are a lot of places to find info, and a lot of people putting out info, it may be a good idea and a good time for there to be an effort to consolidate and reorganize usable information to a single and definitive source and to coordinate this effort between the people who are working on it. There is so much info out there in so many sources, and in so many forms and styles that it is kind of confusing and really a lot of work to self educate on NXT; And there is no form of cohesion or method to its structure. There IS no single article, blog, interview, podcast, forum thread or any other media source that does it justice as a stand alone source of info. Anon136 was posting last night about how he felt he had given a bad interview on NXT, but that only stands to reason, as the nature of NXT makes it impossible to be educated on in a brief info session, and the lack of cohesiveness in the information that is available only serves to magnify this. It may be a good time to start a coordinated effort to supply a source of info that is more unified, accurate, and complete and is organized in a way as to accommodate specific targeted audiences (technical information seekers, and basic information seekers). I think it would serve the community better and make it seem like we had our stuff together a little more to pursue this. I have come into the community just recently and have spent a lot of time looking, and bugging people with questions to learn about NXT, and this has made me aware of this chink it the NXT armor. I think there is a lot of good info out there, and a lot of talented people who know a lot about NXT and care a lot. But with the way that NXT has grown and with the way that info about it is dispersed as a result of that growth it might be a good Idea to supply a more easy to access, consolidated source of info. Get everyone on the same page so to speak. If there were a group effort, coordinated and outlined for that purpose I think it would be beneficial to the growth of NXT, and would not burden one person with such a daunting task.

if there is an effort to do so, I would like to help if there is help needed. If there has not been such an effort I would like to suggest it and offer help.

Something like a NXT secretary, scribe, or archivist?
Yes. Something to compile existing info, clarify, update and fill in gaps or make more accurate. And also index info for easier access by different demographics. Now that it seems as though the structure of the network is coming together solidly, and details are being be made more concrete. It would be advantageous to have a ready supply of easily accessed info assembled. If there isn't something already. There is a lot more to NXT than it being a coin; it is capable of a lot more. I don't want the fact that people can be lazy and the fact that this info takes effort to find, sort through and digest to create an impression on people that it is just a coin. We should spoon feed the info and impression we want to make, and keep people from having to search around; eliminate redundancy, and provide info that is accurate and concise and propagates NXT in a light of the community interest.
here you have 30 pages about Nxt created from weeks of archivist works Cheesy (Nxt Myths)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwAGADgnQcrtM3g1cU1VSHZtTGM/edit?usp=sharing

Is this work on going? seems as though it is a discontinued project.
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@Jerical13:

Please use some punctuation, paragraphs, line breaks etc......your block of text approach is doing my nut in.

Like what u say, just break it up a bit....
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Guys I need some links for educating someone in NXT!

Is there any concerted effort being made to compile information to a single, comprehensive source? there are a lot of places to find info, and a lot of people putting out info, it may be a good idea and a good time for there to be an effort to consolidate and reorganize usable information to a single and definitive source and to coordinate this effort between the people who are working on it. There is so much info out there in so many sources, and in so many forms and styles that it is kind of confusing and really a lot of work to self educate on NXT; And there is no form of cohesion or method to its structure. There IS no single article, blog, interview, podcast, forum thread or any other media source that does it justice as a stand alone source of info. Anon136 was posting last night about how he felt he had given a bad interview on NXT, but that only stands to reason, as the nature of NXT makes it impossible to be educated on in a brief info session, and the lack of cohesiveness in the information that is available only serves to magnify this. It may be a good time to start a coordinated effort to supply a source of info that is more unified, accurate, and complete and is organized in a way as to accommodate specific targeted audiences (technical information seekers, and basic information seekers). I think it would serve the community better and make it seem like we had our stuff together a little more to pursue this. I have come into the community just recently and have spent a lot of time looking, and bugging people with questions to learn about NXT, and this has made me aware of this chink it the NXT armor. I think there is a lot of good info out there, and a lot of talented people who know a lot about NXT and care a lot. But with the way that NXT has grown and with the way that info about it is dispersed as a result of that growth it might be a good Idea to supply a more easy to access, consolidated source of info. Get everyone on the same page so to speak. If there were a group effort, coordinated and outlined for that purpose I think it would be beneficial to the growth of NXT, and would not burden one person with such a daunting task.

if there is an effort to do so, I would like to help if there is help needed. If there has not been such an effort I would like to suggest it and offer help.

Something like a NXT secretary, scribe, or archivist?
Yes. Something to compile existing info, clarify, update and fill in gaps or make more accurate. And also index info for easier access by different demographics. Now that it seems as though the structure of the network is coming together solidly, and details are being be made more concrete. It would be advantageous to have a ready supply of easily accessed info assembled. If there isn't something already. There is a lot more to NXT than it being a coin; it is capable of a lot more. I don't want the fact that people can be lazy and the fact that this info takes effort to find, sort through and digest to create an impression on people that it is just a coin. We should spoon feed the info and impression we want to make, and keep people from having to search around; eliminate redundancy, and provide info that is accurate and concise and propagates NXT in a light of the community interest.

Threads

http://www.nxtcoins.nl/bitcointalk-threads/

Overall Activity

http://www.nxtcoins.nl/50-2/


Damelon does a great job keeping everything in order.


I think the format of what Damelon is doing is exactly what I was talking about. I read his blogs sometimes when they are posted on facebook, didn't realize there was an ongoing library on this site. There should be a link to his blog on the NXT website. I like how there is an indication at the top of the blog indicating it's topic relevance and in a sense its technical and difficulty level. I would suggest putting info on there that is more basic and descriptive of NX;. Stuff aimed at audiences who are new to NXT or new to cryptos entirely, and more advanced technical stuff aimed at audiences who are in need of that type of info, as an improvement on what he has done. His work is NXT grad student. It would be nice to have Nxt undergrad and NXT college prep and NXT doctoral work in the same location and in the same format as what he is doing, and to have that site be the go to site for info. That would be a perfect example of my meaning. I have read Damelon's stuff as I stated previously and it has helped me, but some of it above my level of knowledge as I am not so indoctrinated, and in his own work he admits his own lack of indoctrination in the highly technical. No offense to Damelon, as his work is really done well. He is a propaganda master. But he is doing relativity and quantum mechanics. There is no Sting theory. There is no Newton. Not a knock to Damelon or a knock to anyone else who has been doing this kind of stuff. It is just that the topic of NXT is so vast. As much as I am in love with the thought of decentralizing the NXT economy as much as possible, I like the idea of centralized NXT information. I guess that is what my point is. If more basic info and more tech info were added to what he is doing, coupled with the format he is using that allows for updating and audience targeting, when someone asked for a place to look to learn about NXT they could be directed there and would have to look no further. They could go there and easily index information at a level that they could grasp with out having to search all over the place, sift through info that they are not capable of understanding or info that is elementary and redundant to them. Information that would highlight NXT to our communities advantage and indoctrinate in the ways of NXT.
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Here is version 2.1 of my Windows NXT client "NXT Solaris".


Changelog
-Compatibilty fixes for NRS 0.8.x
-Implemented Curve25519 algorithm:
  * NXT Solaris is now a bit like "Electrum for NXT" (a thin client that does not download the complete blockchain, connecting to untrusted NRS nodes)
  * It is now safe to connect to public NRS nodes (except for forging).
  * As default, NXT Solaris no connects to a random public node.
  * Currently a static list of public nodes that allow API calls from anyone from the text file public_nodes.txt is used.
  * NRS and Java are now longer distributed with NRS Solaris.
  * You will get a warning in the secret input dialog if the secret is transmitted over http to the remote NRS node (only with start/stop forging).
  * If you want to forge, run your own NRS instance locally and set up NXT Solaris to connect to your instance.
-Since there is no batch mode in the NRS API:
  * Details for peers are no longer retrieved as default
  * A maximum of 50 (yet unkown) transactions per account are fetched from the NRS node whenever there is a new block
-Fixed null exchange rates when www.cryptocoincharts.info is down


Download
64-bit Version: NXTSolaris-v2.1-64bit.zip (29.6 MB) – Download here
SHA256 checksum for NXTSolaris-v2.1-64bit.zip: C01599EA51599AD4E2EE8D0B1762686EB7EC274118658C43F76983957F76B0D7

32-bit Version: NXTSolaris-v2.1-32bit.zip (27.5 MB) – Download here
SHA256 checksum for NXTSolaris-v2.1-32bit.zip: EAE75B046577E771CC2C8F57D2A4B8D9AF9F87F92FE5CD400DDE9F9755589957

For more screenshots and everything else please visit: http://nxtsolaris.wordpress.com/


Installation
Simply unzip the archive and run the NXTSolarisStarter.exe file.

The current version 2.1 is NOT compatible with the previous versions. Please delete any existing files and extract the zip archive to a new directory.

Roadmap
1.) Move current version of my code to XE5 and release closed source 32-bit and 64-bit versions for Windows. [DONE]
2.) Refactor code to a MVC architecture, so that I can create separate GUIs while using the same version of the business logic code. [DONE]
3.) Create new GUIs for Windows and OS X using the same business logic, but based on the cross-platform Firemonkey libraries. [DONE]
4.) Release Windows version (32 and 64 bit) based on FireMonkey. [DONE]
5.) Implement new features from the TODO list [DONE]
6.) Release source-code for FireMonkey Windows version (February 16th, 2014 latest) [DONE]
7.) Implement new features from the TODO list
8.) OSX compatibility changes
9.) Release OSX version based on FireMonkey.
10.) Release source code for FireMonkey OSX version.

TODO list
-Arbitrary message encryption
-Offer a simple and advanced GUI, with the simple GUI targeted at new users
-Implement client side Curve25519 encryption/signing



Donations
I hope you like my client and I’d be extremely happy to see some donations for the future of this project!

NXT: 1758531264253431177


Fantastic great job


must encourage any client developer to implement 2 factor authentication


Two-step verification is a process involving two stages to verify the identity of an entity trying to access services in a computer or in a network. This is a special case of a multi-factor authentication which might involve only one of the three authentication factors (a knowledge factor, a possession factor, and an inherence factor) for both steps.[1][2][3] If each step involves a different authentication factor then the two-step authentication is additionally two-factor authentication.
Contents  [hide]

1 Example
2 Google's two-step verification process
3 Other sites offering two-step verification service
4 References
Example[edit]

To provide an everyday example: an automated teller machine (ATM) typically requires two-factor verification. To prove that users are who they claim to be, the system requires two items: an ATM smartcard (application of the possession factor) and the personal identification number (PIN) (application of the knowledge factor). In the case of a lost ATM card, the user's accounts are still safe; anyone who finds the card cannot withdraw money as they do not know the PIN. The same is true if the attacker has only knowledge of the PIN and does not have the card. This is what makes two-factor verification more secure: there are two factors required in order to authenticate.
Note that if the ATM smartcard is merely a magnetic-stripe card it is copyable then the process is only two-step authentication but not two-factor authentication since the ATM is only verifying that the user knows the data encoded on the magnetic stripe (knowledge factor) and presented it in magnetic-stripe form. A smartcard with a chip performs a challenge/response authentication; the information transmitted from the card to the ATM is not the information required to duplicate the card's abilities.
Google's two-step verification process[edit]

Google was one of the first Internet companies which introduced a two-step verification process.[4] To access a Google service using the two-step verification process, a user has to go through the following two stages:[5][6]
The first step is to log in using the username and password. This is an application of the knowledge factor.


The implementation of the second step requires a mobile phone or the Google Authenticator application, which is an application of the knowledge factor. If the user opts to use a mobile phone, he/she has to register his/her phone number with Google. When one attempts to authenticate with username and password, Google will send via SMS a new, unique code to the phone. Receiving the SMS demonstrates that the user knows the phone's IMEI, which is sufficient to convince the phone network to direct the SMS to the attacker.

If the user opts to use the Google Authenticator (or another supported code generator application),[7] he/she simply opens the application, which generates a new code every 30 seconds. This code is to be entered to complete the log in process. As a backup option in case the registered mobile phone or device running Google Authenticator is lost, stolen, or otherwise unavailable, the user can print a set of static single-use backup codes (also the knowledge factor) and store them in a safe place.
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Yes, BTT. Can someone explain what exactly happens, when a transaction is "cancelled", because when sending the NXT I was on a fork? Is it like the transaction never happend? So, I can use 0.7.6 now and do the transactions again without hesitation?

Try out 0.8.3 an re-download the blockchain from scratch.

Check that you have that block: 7573868954311477975

I am on 0.7.6 now (started from scratch) and yes, I see the block. I made a new transaction 30 minutes ago but it still has 0 confirmations. Current block is: 11581245883045947843 - I already restarted the browser but still 0 confirmations. DEBUG says: "Accepted new transaction 15118414472819469314" - but that's already 40 minutes ago.
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Hi guys Smiley

Congratulations with NXT! Really great job of you all!

I made a video why I invested half my bitcoins into NXT. Hope u like it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ruYAxKeWxnM


(I'm an early investor in Bitcoin, see all my video's here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Marcdemesel/videos?shelf_id=1&view=0&sort=dd)

Nice vid,9 minutes watched and enjoying it.

In the description text you mention,nxt could be attacked by buying 51% of the coins.If Transparent forging runs as expected,you wouldn't manipulate the blockchain even owning 90% of the coins  Grin
legendary
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Hi guys Smiley

Congratulations with NXT! Really great job of you all!

I made a video why I invested half my bitcoins into NXT. Hope u like it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ruYAxKeWxnM


(I'm an early investor in Bitcoin, see all my video's here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Marcdemesel/videos?shelf_id=1&view=0&sort=dd)

Welcome to the thread Smiley

Nice to see new people coming in and taking the time to introduce themselves.

Looking at the video now. Smiley

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The Best Investment Deserves The Largest Exposure
Hi guys Smiley

Congratulations with NXT! Really great job of you all!

I made a video why I invested half my bitcoins into NXT. Hope u like it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ruYAxKeWxnM


(I'm an early investor in Bitcoin, see all my video's here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Marcdemesel/videos?shelf_id=1&view=0&sort=dd)
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Everyone just report the guy. Then just ignore him so don't need to see the image any more...

First time I tried 'Ignore'. It works Smiley
That guy had posted his personal hobbies to several crypto coin pages. Possibly he has some pain ... hate against other coins.


Same here. First ignore on this forum.
This truly is a memorable day!

I've emailed the owners of the site he's linking the image from.
I hope they catch him and I hope its somewhere where its illegal...
legendary
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Everyone just report the guy. Then just ignore him so don't need to see the image any more...

First time I tried 'Ignore'. It works Smiley
That guy had posted his personal hobbies to several crypto coin pages. Possibly he has some pain ... hate against other coins.



Same here. First ignore on this forum.
This truly is a memorable day!
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Nxt NEM
Everyone just report the guy. Then just ignore him so don't need to see the image any more...

First time I tried 'Ignore'. It works Smiley
That guy had posted his personal hobbies to several crypto coin pages. Possibly he has some pain ... hate against other coins.

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☕ NXT-4BTE-8Y4K-CDS2-6TB82
Yes, BTT. Can someone explain what exactly happens, when a transaction is "cancelled", because when sending the NXT I was on a fork? Is it like the transaction never happend? So, I can use 0.7.6 now and do the transactions again without hesitation?

Try out 0.8.3 an re-download the blockchain from scratch.

Check that you have that block: 7573868954311477975
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Yes, BTT. Can someone explain what exactly happens, when a transaction is "cancelled", because when sending the NXT I was on a fork? Is it like the transaction never happend? So, I can use 0.7.6 now and do the transactions again without hesitation?
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Back to topic.

Once again, someone needs to clarify some things for me. Please correct the following process, it could be total bullshit:

1. James uses AE + AM and three servers to make a gateway for external coins
2. Sending DOGE to the gateway triggers an automated process to send DOGE assets from the Nxt accounts of the servers to the sender's Nxt account
3. Sending DOGE assets back to the gateway triggers the servers to send DOGE coins back to a DOGE address
legendary
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Is NOT going in the summaries!

Yeah, that would suck.


Sry.

Made me laugh, it's ok  Cheesy
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Is NOT going in the summaries!

Yeah, that would suck.
Sry.

Ewwwwww  Can we change the subject.....
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Is NOT going in the summaries!

Yeah, that would suck.


Sry.
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