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How is going on the AE test? this is real markeeting, not speakers for freaks/geeks

who the fuck cares?

AE is not working that is why nobody talks about it.

That is soooo short sighted to say. I will talk about it. It will be worth it when it's ready. The guys working on it don't have time to talk as they have there ears to the grind stone. what you wanna talk about?

Don't worry about Emule...he's the NXT troll around these parts Wink

I don't mind trolls. I was just wondering if he had any real arguments other than to say that the AE wasn't up yet.

Work in progress Cheesy
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I have no freakin' clue why you come to this conclusion. I am extremely satisfied with and thankful for your contribution and we all discussed the algo today. Why do you suddenly think no one wants this?

Thanks for the kind words - it is perhaps a combination of being tired, not getting anyone else to work on the simulation and just getting more and more suggestions for alternative ways to do things when we don't already even know what it is doing that has led to me needing to "give it a rest".


You deserve your rest but please, after that, keep it coming. I think the most of us are just silent (or suggest incentive ideas) because they have no clue what you are talking about.

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We need a probability distribution for these streaks. Absolute numbers are irrelevant.

See the paper I linked here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5390133  (pages 202-204).
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If someone need testNXT, write here, or PM me.

Yesterday I've tested AE a bit.. no problem found yet. You can try to buy some of my ABCs on testnet.

could you send me some more please? -> 9998590259914237067

thx abctc
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
We need a probability distribution for these streaks. Absolute numbers are irrelevant.

To be blunt - why don't you just fix it then (instead of asking me to do more work on it)?
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https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3364.msg39381.html#msg39381

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Is there anybody here that is actually serious about helping take NXT to the NEXT LEVEL?
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some here 2457591381965084256   , Let me test
- 9k testNXT sent.
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It seems that things like "proper analysis" are not things that this community wants to do or even hear about. Sad


I have no freakin' clue why you come to this conclusion. I am extremely satisfied with and thankful for your contribution and we all discussed the algo today. Why do you suddenly think no one wants this?

I also don't understand why such a conclusion. Many people sent me NXT since I've started writing formulas here (thanks a lot to all!!!), so I would say that there is interest in the community for such things.
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Interesting conversation regarding possibilities of Nxt Escrow with AT, would love some more input from technical minds.  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5367276
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If someone need testNXT, write here, or PM me.

Yesterday I've tested AE a bit.. no problem found yet. You can try to buy some of my ABCs on testnet.

please make an offer Wink
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I have no freakin' clue why you come to this conclusion. I am extremely satisfied with and thankful for your contribution and we all discussed the algo today. Why do you suddenly think no one wants this?

Thanks for the kind words - it is perhaps a combination of being tired, not getting anyone else to work on the simulation and just getting more and more suggestions for alternative ways to do things when we don't already even know what it is doing that has led to me needing to "give it a rest".
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Agreed (minus the vulgar language), we can market AE when it's finished with testing and we are happy with it.

Btw, who is really testing it? I got only a few bug reports.

I don't really need AE working (I'm not a trader and don't need to IPO anything), so I can wait till April. The community should focus on testing if it does need AE.

hm well ... I have tested all the basic functions: placeOrder (bis/ask) cancelOrder(bid/ask),issueAsset, transferAsset, trade. Fetch bidorder/askorder as TX from trade.
The bug with the 'not enough funds'. I am still missing out on the scaling - whether it is 0.01nxt or 1 nxt, little things like that.

May main focus atm is getting the modelView pulled straight in Qt, and then I'll have to switch from GET to POST in requests.

What about a liquid market? How can we simulate one? What kind of test cases can we come up with? Who actually IS testing the AE on the testNET? For sure I know about jl777 and myself but there are 2 or three others - wesleyh / nexern / marcus03 ??

Please chime in whoever is testing, so we can cook up something more lively!


I made quite a few trades, sell and buy offers, issued assets (Peanuts).
I reported some minor bugs and improvements to wesleyh (related to the client). Sometimes it is difficult to distinguish between client and core functionality/bugs. Testing the core is probably more effective when it is done by the client developers, because for end users, there is always the "client-layer" inbetween.
Overall it looks pretty good now from my angle.
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What about a liquid market? How can we simulate one? What kind of test cases can we come up with? Who actually IS testing the AE on the testNET? For sure I know about jl777 and myself but there are 2 or three others - wesleyh / nexern / marcus03 ??

For now I'm done with AE implementation in my client. It might need a bit of polishing once there are lots of assets/orders/trades, but I'll be able to fix this pretty quickly.

I myself, haven't seen any problems in the NRS side of the implementation.

On a side note regarding my client: I've put a lot of work into implementing client-side signing in my client to be able to connect securely to trustless nodes, so that users don't have to start NRS at all and I can ditch NRS and java from my distribution. However, I think that it is currently not possible to use a NXT thin client, since the API doesn't have calls that return batches of transactions/orders/trades/peers with one call. As it is right now, it simply takes to long to do hundreds or thousands of separate calls to fetch hundreds or thousand of transactions/orders/trades/peers. Since I really think that thin clients are the way to go, you might not see any updates of my client until a batch mode is available.
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Yesterday I've tested AE a bit.. no problem found yet.

What if placing an order and double cancelling it creates coins out of thin air? We should test such cases.
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One final thing I will say about the (lack of proper) statistical analysis is that for my own involvement in Nxt I would rather be paid in BTC (if I am to be paid anything at all).

I have read proper statistical papers (such as created by Meni) with sound math describing all of the possible attacks upon Bitcoin and I am much more satisfied with that then the "just trust BCNext's algorithm argument" who himself btw actually stated "don't trust me".

It seems that things like "proper analysis" are not things that this community wants to do or even hear about. Sad


I bet most of us believe that BCNext did math analysis and found no flaws.
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If someone need testNXT, write here, or PM me.

Yesterday I've tested AE a bit.. no problem found yet. You can try to buy some of my ABCs on testnet.

Please man, some here 2457591381965084256
, Let me test, Prease.
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It seems that things like "proper analysis" are not things that this community wants to do or even hear about. Sad


I have no freakin' clue why you come to this conclusion. I am extremely satisfied with and thankful for your contribution and we all discussed the algo today. Why do you suddenly think no one wants this?
legendary
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If someone need testNXT, write here, or PM me.

Yesterday I've tested AE a bit.. no problem found yet. You can try to buy some of my ABCs on testnet.
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I'm not a developer.
I can not put my ideas into a program

So I hope you can understand that this isn't actually really helping at this stage.

Maybe once we have a better understanding of what we have and what we are expecting to have when TF is completed we can decide if we want to change that and then model such an alternative.

Reasonable?


Keep it simple. There is no need to overcomplicate the development with these things. Anyway, centralizing things like this isn't really what NXT is about. Some one could do it as a private, for profit enterprise. Free market opportunity will attract more, and bigger fish to NXT. It sounds like a good idea. You should try to figure out a way to implement it on your own and not write it in NXT.
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