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rickyjames

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Quote from: wesleyh on February 26, 2014, 08:39:29 AM

Quote from: rickyjames on February 26, 2014, 08:38:22 AM

Quote from: klee on February 26, 2014, 08:09:51 AM

We are in war with Ethereum (for those who have not understood it yet).

+1. +1. +1.

Etherium had a HUGE recognition and visibility advantage over NXT. We are going to have quite a hard fight to overcome that. I predict when they finally do come out, they will instantly be over NXT on coinmarketcap.

What's their ETA now?

Has anyone been in contact with any of the whales that are not spending?

They have a keynote speaker spot at Texas Bitcoin Conference on March 5. I'll report.

BloodyRookie

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@CIYAM: Is there a special reason for taking this approach

Quote from: CIYAM on February 26, 2014, 07:18:17 AM

Code:

         int divisor = rand( ) % 10;

         if( divisor == 0 )
            ++divisor;

         weights[ i ] = ( rand( ) % 10000 ) * ( balances[ i ] / divisor );

instead of taking an approach equivalent to the nxt implementation?
Something like

Code:

         weights[ i ] = ( rand( ) % 10000 ) / balances[ i ];

wesleyh

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Quote from: rickyjames on February 26, 2014, 08:38:22 AM

Quote from: klee on February 26, 2014, 08:09:51 AM

We are in war with Ethereum (for those who have not understood it yet).

+1. +1. +1.

Etherium had a HUGE recognition and visibility advantage over NXT. We are going to have quite a hard fight to overcome that. I predict when they finally do come out, they will instantly be over NXT on coinmarketcap.

What's their ETA now?

Has anyone been in contact with any of the whales that are not spending?

rickyjames

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Quote from: klee on February 26, 2014, 08:09:51 AM

We are in war with Ethereum (for those who have not understood it yet).

+1. +1. +1.

Etherium had a HUGE recognition and visibility advantage over NXT. We are going to have quite a hard fight to overcome that. I predict when they finally do come out, they will instantly be over NXT on coinmarketcap.

farl4web

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Anybody knows why Project Peerexplorer is giving less caches? Are there less donations/caches?

It used to be better (with my 6 nodes):

09-02-2014, 0:00 uur - 16-02-2014, 0:00 uur: 285 NXT (excl. fees)
16-02-2014, 0:00 uur - 22-02-2014, 09:42 uur: 46 NXT (excl. fees)
23-02-2014, 0:00 uur - 26-02-2014, 14:30 uur: 28 NXT (excl. fees)

I really need to get break-even (minimal) or I will stop with a few nodes unfortunately, I would not like that. Sad

rickyjames

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Quote from: okaynow on February 26, 2014, 07:47:34 AM

Quote from: rickyjames on February 26, 2014, 07:04:47 AM

Yeah, you may have seen this before. I'll be putting it up every ten pages or so. It's one of those "legitimate, transparent process" things.

image

This is great, thanks!

One correction: the green word should be "candidates", not "nominees".

Maybe I should do a graphic like this in Word 2003....

klee

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Thanks guys!

We need to make this viral...

wesleyh

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Quote from: xyzzyx on February 26, 2014, 08:28:16 AM

Quote from: klee on February 26, 2014, 06:02:55 AM

Androklis Polymenis (me) donates a million digital NXT coins to BPF! $43,000. Press release [PDF]: http://goo.gl/t8tWY8

https://twitter.com/Lets_Upgrade/status/438525224368107520

I, for one, welcome our weakly god-like intelligence post-human overlords.

Klee, fantastic work!

xyzzyx

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I don't really come from outer space.

Quote from: klee on February 26, 2014, 06:02:55 AM

Androklis Polymenis (me) donates a million digital NXT coins to BPF! $43,000. Press release [PDF]: http://goo.gl/t8tWY8

https://twitter.com/Lets_Upgrade/status/438525224368107520

I, for one, welcome our weakly god-like intelligence post-human overlords.

klee

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Basically they would invest, not sale!

Active early adopters: Jean Luc, Graviton, 2kool4skewl?, lophie?, ...

? : Not sure if they are early adopters

martismartis

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Quote from: l8orre on February 26, 2014, 08:20:24 AM

Quote from: martismartis on February 26, 2014, 07:51:35 AM

Quote from: l8orre on February 26, 2014, 07:30:30 AM

In properties ### PEER NETWORKING" try:

nxt.peerServerHost=0.0.0.0

### API SERVER###

nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0
nxt.allowedBotHosts=*

### NRS USER INTERFACE ###

nxt.allowedUserHosts=*
nxt.uiServerHost=0.0.0.0

Not sure about PEER NETWORKING settings, but API and NRS should work.

YEEH ! THAT DOES IT!!

I had been kiting along that same ole' web.xml from the old 0.7x series, that I had forgotten the details. ... very much appreciated, Thanks!

Cheers. More nodes, more safety in network

antanst

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Quote from: Eadeqa on February 26, 2014, 08:01:49 AM

Hoarders can't "kill" nxt. If anything, hoarding pump prices up as less coins are in circulation.

...and hoarders also drop price down if they decide to dump anytime.

pinarello

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NXT is the future

Quote from: CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime on February 26, 2014, 08:04:34 AM

** Cryptsy Update **

I just heard back from Paul (met him at the Miami Bitcoin Conference), they are looking to implement Nxt in the next few weeks.

NOW that would be great!

to daaaa moooooooooooooon

nxtsky

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Quote from: klee on February 26, 2014, 08:18:37 AM

Quote from: pinarello on February 26, 2014, 08:13:57 AM

Quote from: mcjavar on February 26, 2014, 08:10:35 AM

Quote from: pinarello on February 26, 2014, 07:57:35 AM

Quote from: abuelau on February 26, 2014, 07:54:46 AM

Quote from: pinarello on February 26, 2014, 07:52:04 AM

Greed could be the fatal flaw, if that 50M accounts persist to hoard we are all doomed, simply because that accounts don’t need a higher price to sell, they get rich anyway, no matter what the price is.

I wish we could shot them accounts down coz they only make us look bad and people who own them are from the greediest people ever seen, they hurt nxt and will destroy it.

How rich do you want to be 1M, 10M, 50M, it’s just disgusting when you think of it.

Honestly: I couldn’t care less if NXT was worth 0, just for the fun them accounts have also 0.

Who knows, maybe a good clone will outlive NXT and them 50M accounts if they don’t start spreading the wealth.

Let's send some arbitrary messages to those accounts asking them to help out!

We already did. I think they dont even know how it works and they don't even give a damn how it works to.

Well...treat them like lostNxts (blackNxt, deadNxt or whatever they are called now).
Maybe the owner of the account already died. Or is on coma and doen´t care about it. I am pretty sure that they´d already sold some of them if they were alive

My fear is that some are second or third accounts and the whales dont even have the time to sell + there is not enough volume on the market to sell.

They can start PMing people from here who are active and faithful to NXT and offer them bulk quantities in discount prices!

If I had 100M nxt I would probably do this for at least 20-30M nxt.

And no one needs to know it (to affect the market).

+1
If the price up ,then down, too many times, most of investors will lost their faith.

bitcoinpaul

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And I would finally get some more Nxt. Would love it, because I missed november Kiss

pinarello

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NXT is the future

Quote from: klee on February 26, 2014, 08:18:37 AM

They can start PMing people from here who are active and faithful to NXT and offer them bulk quantities in discount prices!

If I had 100M nxt I would probably do this for at least 20-30M nxt.

And no one needs to know it (to affect the market).

+1

l8orre

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Quote from: martismartis on February 26, 2014, 07:51:35 AM

Quote from: l8orre on February 26, 2014, 07:30:30 AM

In properties ### PEER NETWORKING" try:

nxt.peerServerHost=0.0.0.0

### API SERVER###

nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0
nxt.allowedBotHosts=*

### NRS USER INTERFACE ###

nxt.allowedUserHosts=*
nxt.uiServerHost=0.0.0.0

Not sure about PEER NETWORKING settings, but API and NRS should work.

YEEH ! THAT DOES IT!!

I had been kiting along that same ole' web.xml from the old 0.7x series, that I had forgotten the details. ... very much appreciated, Thanks!

CIYAM

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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer

Okay - so I've tried to simulate the idea of "penalising" a node for *not* forging. Hopefully I've done something wrong because this simulation over 10 years did not look very good at all:

blocks = 5256000
a: 10
b: 10
c: 10
d: 10
e: 10
f: 50
wins( a ) = 515287
wins( b ) = 511740
wins( c ) = 511293
wins( d ) = 512904
wins( e ) = 508422
wins( f ) = 2696354
best_streak( a ) = 8
best_streak( b ) = 8
best_streak( c ) = 10
best_streak( d ) = 8
best_streak( e ) = 8
best_streak( f ) = 29
best_combined_streak = 7202

Code:

// Copyright (c) 2014 CIYAM Developers
//
// Distributed under the MIT/X11 software license, please refer to the file license.txt
// in the root project directory or http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php.

#include
#include
#include

#include
#include
#include
#include

#define NUM_DAYS 1
#define NUM_YEARS 10

#define USE_PENALISING

//#define PREVENT_IMMEDIATE_REPEAT

//#define SHOW_WINNERS
//#define SHOW_WINNERS_WEIGHT

using namespace std;

#ifndef NUM_YEARS
const size_t c_num_blocks = 1440 * NUM_DAYS;
#else
const size_t c_num_blocks = 1440 * 365 * NUM_YEARS;
#endif

int main( )
{
#ifdef SHOW_WINNERS
   string winners;
#endif
   vector< int > wins;
   vector< int > streaks;
   vector< int > balances;
   vector< int > best_streak;

   vector< int > combined;
   vector< long > weights;

   int combined_streak = 0;
   int best_combined_streak = 0;

   balances.push_back( 10 );
   balances.push_back( 10 );
   balances.push_back( 10 );
   balances.push_back( 10 );
   balances.push_back( 10 );
   balances.push_back( 50 );

   srand( ( unsigned int )time( 0 ) );

   for( size_t i = 0; i < balances.size( ); i++ )
   {
   wins.push_back( 0 );
   weights.push_back( 0 );
   streaks.push_back( 0 );
   combined.push_back( 0 );
   best_streak.push_back( 0 );
   }

   size_t penalising = 0;
   size_t last_winner = 0;
   for( size_t blocks = 0; blocks < c_num_blocks; blocks++ )
   {
#ifdef USE_PENALISING
   if( blocks % 1440 == 0 )
   penalising = rand( ) % balances.size( );
#endif

   long total_weight = 0;
   for( size_t i = 0; i < weights.size( ); i++ )
   {
   int divisor = rand( ) % 10;

   if( divisor == 0 )
   ++divisor;

   weights[ i ] = ( rand( ) % 10000 ) * ( balances[ i ] / divisor );

#ifdef USE_PENALISING
   if( i == penalising )
   weights[ i ] = 0;
#endif

   total_weight += weights[ i ];
   }

   size_t winner = 0;
   size_t runner_up = 0;
   long best_target = 0;
#ifdef PREVENT_IMMEDIATE_REPEAT
   long second_best_target = 0;
#endif

   for( size_t i = 0; i < balances.size( ); i++ )
   {
   long adjusted_weight = weights[ i ] * 1000 / total_weight;

   if( adjusted_weight > best_target )
   {
   winner = i;
   best_target = adjusted_weight;
   }
#ifdef PREVENT_IMMEDIATE_REPEAT
   else if( adjusted_weight > second_best_target )
   {
   runner_up = i;
   second_best_target = adjusted_weight;
   }
#endif
   }

#ifdef PREVENT_IMMEDIATE_REPEAT
   if( winner == last_winner )
   winner = runner_up;
#endif

#ifdef SHOW_WINNERS
   winners += ( char )( 'a' + winner );
# ifdef SHOW_WINNERS_WEIGHT
   ostringstream osstr;
   osstr << best_target;
   winners += "(" + osstr.str( ) + ")";
# endif
#endif
   ++wins[ winner ];

   if( winner != balances.size( ) - 1 )
   {
   ++combined_streak;
   if( combined_streak > best_combined_streak )
   best_combined_streak = combined_streak;
   }
   else
   combined_streak = 0;

   if( winner == last_winner )
   {
   ++streaks[ winner ];
   if( streaks[ winner ] > best_streak[ winner ] )
   best_streak[ winner ] = streaks[ winner ];
   }
   else
   streaks[ winner ] = 0;

   last_winner = winner;
   }

   cout << "blocks = " << c_num_blocks << endl;

   for( size_t i = 0; i < balances.size( ); i++ )
   cout << ( char )( 'a' + i ) << ": " << balances[ i ] << endl;

#ifdef SHOW_WINNERS
   cout << winners << endl;
#endif
   for( size_t i = 0; i < wins.size( ); i++ )
   cout << "wins( " << ( char )( 'a' + i ) << " ) = " << wins[ i ] << endl;

   for( size_t i = 0; i < best_streak.size( ); i++ )
   cout << "best_streak( " << ( char )( 'a' + i ) << " ) = " << ( best_streak[ i ] + 1 ) << endl;

   cout << "best_combined_streak = " << best_combined_streak << endl;
}

klee

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Quote from: pinarello on February 26, 2014, 08:13:57 AM

Quote from: mcjavar on February 26, 2014, 08:10:35 AM

Quote from: pinarello on February 26, 2014, 07:57:35 AM

Quote from: abuelau on February 26, 2014, 07:54:46 AM

Quote from: pinarello on February 26, 2014, 07:52:04 AM

Greed could be the fatal flaw, if that 50M accounts persist to hoard we are all doomed, simply because that accounts don’t need a higher price to sell, they get rich anyway, no matter what the price is.

I wish we could shot them accounts down coz they only make us look bad and people who own them are from the greediest people ever seen, they hurt nxt and will destroy it.

How rich do you want to be 1M, 10M, 50M, it’s just disgusting when you think of it.

Honestly: I couldn’t care less if NXT was worth 0, just for the fun them accounts have also 0.

Who knows, maybe a good clone will outlive NXT and them 50M accounts if they don’t start spreading the wealth.

Let's send some arbitrary messages to those accounts asking them to help out!

We already did. I think they dont even know how it works and they don't even give a damn how it works to.

Well...treat them like lostNxts (blackNxt, deadNxt or whatever they are called now).
Maybe the owner of the account already died. Or is on coma and doen´t care about it. I am pretty sure that they´d already sold some of them if they were alive

My fear is that some are second or third accounts and the whales dont even have the time to sell + there is not enough volume on the market to sell.

They can start PMing people from here who are active and faithful to NXT and offer them bulk quantities in discount prices!

If I had 100M nxt I would probably do this for at least 20-30M nxt.

And no one needs to know it (to affect the market).

allwelder

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Quote from: klee on February 26, 2014, 06:02:55 AM

Androklis Polymenis (me) donates a million digital NXT coins to BPF! $43,000. Press release [PDF]: http://goo.gl/t8tWY8

https://twitter.com/Lets_Upgrade/status/438525224368107520

wow,so generous.

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