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sr. member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 307
The idea to distribute byteballs among as many people as possible is excellent, but the dev could improve the way in which it's implemented.

At the moment the big BTC whales are getting the biggest slices of the cake. There's nothing bad in that, except that this is an obstacle to a fair distribution of coins. Whales are just getting the gift and since they are already rich then they forget about bytes until they eventually will decide to dump them at some point, crashing the price and hurting the moltitude of the latecomers.

A way to improve the fairness of distribution would be to diminish progressively the quantity of bytes given for every BTC after the first BTC that the bot finds on each address.
In other words: if you have up to one BTC in one linked address you get the max amount of bytes per BTC. If you have more than one BTC in the linked address you get a bit less for the second BTC, and even less for the third BTC, and so on.
This way, big BTC holders will statistically get proportionally less bytes than little BTC holders. Of course, if you want to get the max quantity of bytes you can always spread all your BTCs through different addresses and link them all to the bot, and for sure this is what I'd do since I don't own too many BTCs. But a whale who owns 1000 BTCs or 10,000 or 100,000 would never be able or be willing to spread all his BTCs on so many different addresses and go through the process of linking them all to the bot.
The result would be a more homogeneous distribution of the coin and I think that this would benefit the project.
Anyone who likes my idea is welcome to tip me with some bytes, or some gigabytes, or even terabytes, if you prefer Wink
My address: 7BO67BNRHQZ6P32U7YIIB4MFOW4JGRNU


STFU this system can be gamed. A whale just has to distribute their BTC between many addresses. Also, the current system is already fair. The more BTC you have the more BB you are entitled to, very simple. Why on Earth should all people receive equal amounts no matter what is their stake in the Bitcoin pie? People are not equal, this is a fact whether you like it or not. Some took a greater risk by investing into BTC early on, they should be rewarded more for that risk. You almost sound like some crazed social justice warrior. Your idea would be absolutely unfair.

I would suggest that Tonych also distribute to the holders of other crypto-currencies, according to a capitalization total criterion, for example greater than $ 10 billion.
In this case, owners of XRP and ETH.

This would greatly diversify the holders base.

We could use this for great marketing.
Lets say keep x% for the user base of 1 coin, which we select through general voting on twitter or something like that.
The marketing part will be done by the big holders of each coin then  Wink

It would be difficult to do the distribution for other coins, I guess.

Marketing, maybe. But is it morally right? None of the alts would even exist if there wasn't for BTC. Show some respect to the software thanks to it you have your stinking ETH vaporware and other scamcoins. Also this would be a debate nightmare which shitcoins to include in that basket and which not. Clearly anyone could just pump out their BTC clone, rename it and expect to receive free BB. And wait what? You mentioned centrally owned and managed private ledgers such as ETH and XRP?! Do you know that the owners of those coins would be the mother of all whales? The distribution is good as it is. Let BB market itself.  The whole altcoin game is about getting more BTC anyway. We just pretend that ETH is so good, but behind the curtains everyone just tries to get more BTC out of it.

I have nothing against the concept of rich people getting richer, I just was thinking at which way could favour the best distribution and thus the adoption of the coin. It is true that whales would distribute their BTC between many addresses, but as I said, they would not waste their time in creating the THOUSANDS of addresses needed to store one BTC each, even if this could be done with automation (but to create an automate system still needs time and skills), so in the end even if whales distribute their BTC between some addresses they would still end up receiving proportionally less coins than the little holders, which means more coins available for more people.
And I also agree that the distribution also to holders of XRP and ETH and other altcoins would create mothers of all whales, and making the distribution process too complex, while the idea which I've suggested would be very easy to realize.

legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1015
I would suggest that Tonych also distribute to the holders of other crypto-currencies, according to a capitalization total criterion, for example greater than $ 10 billion.
In this case, owners of XRP and ETH.

This would greatly diversify the holders base.

We could use this for great marketing.
Lets say keep x% for the user base of 1 coin, which we select through general voting on twitter or something like that.
The marketing part will be done by the big holders of each coin then  Wink

It would be difficult to do the distribution for other coins, I guess.

Marketing, maybe. But is it morally right? None of the alts would even exist if there wasn't for BTC. Show some respect to the software thanks to it you have your stinking ETH vaporware and other scamcoins. Also this would be a debate nightmare which shitcoins to include in that basket and which not. Clearly anyone could just pump out their BTC clone, rename it and expect to receive free BB. And wait what? You mentioned centrally owned and managed private ledgers such as ETH and XRP?! Do you know that the owners of those coins would be the mother of all whales? The distribution is good as it is. Let BB market itself.  The whole altcoin game is about getting more BTC anyway. We just pretend that ETH is so good, but behind the curtains everyone just tries to get more BTC out of it.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1055
The Byteball wiki has become really pretty, with very useful information, thanks to engaged slack users, special shout to @slackjore and @mc (shortened for anonymity).

But wait, there is more! Now it is reachable at https://byteroll.com/

As is tradition, the wiki content is licensed like wikipedia, and its content available on git at https://gitlab.com/byteball/wiki/tree/master for backup-purposes, history-feature will come in next releases of wiki.js and other fancyness.

Some selection of pages https://byteroll.com/installation https://byteroll.com/distribution https://byteroll.com/faq-general https://byteroll.com/oracle https://byteroll.com/trading/trading-blackbytes



Great community achievement, thanks to all who have contributed!

Please retweet: https://twitter.com/cryptkeeperbtt/status/867267203292385280
hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 635
Is GByte trading at Bittrex? I see the chart but no bid/ask... weird.

Also any formal market for Blackbyte?

Yes, it is trading and everything is OK for me,  all bid/ask are visible. As to blackbytes there is no formal market, only p2p
hero member
Activity: 1073
Merit: 666
Is GByte trading at Bittrex? I see the chart but no bid/ask... weird.

Also any formal market for Blackbyte?
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Did anybody know if its possible to export history in lite wallet for android? Is there a data file or a anything else?
Thank you for help.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 501
I can't sync my wallet! Installed the light version and the full version!
None would like to sync! Any tips will be great fully appreciated!

Thank you!
i have some issue with sync aswell on full version client ... i would like to hear some tips or where we can search to fix this problem. cheers
legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 1116
Anyone with a full node setup their own db of addresses yet? I'm curious to know what percentage of byteball airdropees have yet to move a single byte...
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1002
I can't sync my wallet! Installed the light version and the full version!
None would like to sync! Any tips will be great fully appreciated!

Thank you!
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
The Byteball wiki has become really pretty, with very useful information, thanks to engaged slack users, special shout to @slackjore and @mc (shortened for anonymity).

But wait, there is more! Now it is reachable at https://byteroll.com/

As is tradition, the wiki content is licensed like wikipedia, and its content available on git at https://gitlab.com/byteball/wiki/tree/master for backup-purposes, history-feature will come in next releases of wiki.js and other fancyness.

Some selection of pages https://byteroll.com/installation https://byteroll.com/distribution https://byteroll.com/faq-general https://byteroll.com/oracle https://byteroll.com/trading/trading-blackbytes

sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 260
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
The idea to distribute byteballs among as many people as possible is excellent, but the dev could improve the way in which it's implemented.

At the moment the big BTC whales are getting the biggest slices of the cake. There's nothing bad in that, except that this is an obstacle to a fair distribution of coins. Whales are just getting the gift and since they are already rich then they forget about bytes until they eventually will decide to dump them at some point, crashing the price and hurting the moltitude of the latecomers.

A way to improve the fairness of distribution would be to diminish progressively the quantity of bytes given for every BTC after the first BTC that the bot finds on each address.
In other words: if you have up to one BTC in one linked address you get the max amount of bytes per BTC. If you have more than one BTC in the linked address you get a bit less for the second BTC, and even less for the third BTC, and so on.
This way, big BTC holders will statistically get proportionally less bytes than little BTC holders. Of course, if you want to get the max quantity of bytes you can always spread all your BTCs through different addresses and link them all to the bot, and for sure this is what I'd do since I don't own too many BTCs. But a whale who owns 1000 BTCs or 10,000 or 100,000 would never be able or be willing to spread all his BTCs on so many different addresses and go through the process of linking them all to the bot.
The result would be a more homogeneous distribution of the coin and I think that this would benefit the project.
Anyone who likes my idea is welcome to tip me with some bytes, or some gigabytes, or even terabytes, if you prefer Wink
My address: 7BO67BNRHQZ6P32U7YIIB4MFOW4JGRNU


STFU this system can be gamed. A whale just has to distribute their BTC between many addresses. Also, the current system is already fair. The more BTC you have the more BB you are entitled to, very simple. Why on Earth should all people receive equal amounts no matter what is their stake in the Bitcoin pie? People are not equal, this is a fact whether you like it or not. Some took a greater risk by investing into BTC early on, they should be rewarded more for that risk. You almost sound like some crazed social justice warrior. Your idea would be absolutely unfair.

I would suggest that Tonych also distribute to the holders of other crypto-currencies, according to a capitalization total criterion, for example greater than $ 10 billion.
In this case, owners of XRP and ETH.

This would greatly diversify the holders base.

We could use this for great marketing.
Lets say keep x% for the user base of 1 coin, which we select through general voting on twitter or something like that.
The marketing part will be done by the big holders of each coin then  Wink

It would be difficult to do the distribution for other coins, I guess.
hero member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 507
The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die
The idea to distribute byteballs among as many people as possible is excellent, but the dev could improve the way in which it's implemented.

At the moment the big BTC whales are getting the biggest slices of the cake. There's nothing bad in that, except that this is an obstacle to a fair distribution of coins. Whales are just getting the gift and since they are already rich then they forget about bytes until they eventually will decide to dump them at some point, crashing the price and hurting the moltitude of the latecomers.

A way to improve the fairness of distribution would be to diminish progressively the quantity of bytes given for every BTC after the first BTC that the bot finds on each address.
In other words: if you have up to one BTC in one linked address you get the max amount of bytes per BTC. If you have more than one BTC in the linked address you get a bit less for the second BTC, and even less for the third BTC, and so on.
This way, big BTC holders will statistically get proportionally less bytes than little BTC holders. Of course, if you want to get the max quantity of bytes you can always spread all your BTCs through different addresses and link them all to the bot, and for sure this is what I'd do since I don't own too many BTCs. But a whale who owns 1000 BTCs or 10,000 or 100,000 would never be able or be willing to spread all his BTCs on so many different addresses and go through the process of linking them all to the bot.
The result would be a more homogeneous distribution of the coin and I think that this would benefit the project.
Anyone who likes my idea is welcome to tip me with some bytes, or some gigabytes, or even terabytes, if you prefer Wink
My address: 7BO67BNRHQZ6P32U7YIIB4MFOW4JGRNU


STFU this system can be gamed. A whale just has to distribute their BTC between many addresses. Also, the current system is already fair. The more BTC you have the more BB you are entitled to, very simple. Why on Earth should all people receive equal amounts no matter what is their stake in the Bitcoin pie? People are not equal, this is a fact whether you like it or not. Some took a greater risk by investing into BTC early on, they should be rewarded more for that risk. You almost sound like some crazed social justice warrior. Your idea would be absolutely unfair.

I would suggest that Tonych also distribute to the holders of other crypto-currencies, according to a capitalization total criterion, for example greater than $ 10 billion.
In this case, owners of XRP and ETH.

This would greatly diversify the holders base.

As in linking ETH / XRP addresses? Those may just end up being the same users that also linked their BTC, it wouldn't really distribute better, just going back to the rich getting richer concept Tongue
hero member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 507
The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die
Little bit of a rise today Smiley

Distribution getting nearer. And this time with 20%  Smiley

Yep right on schedule with previous price trends, maybe hit a new ATH for trex Wink
newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0
The idea to distribute byteballs among as many people as possible is excellent, but the dev could improve the way in which it's implemented.

At the moment the big BTC whales are getting the biggest slices of the cake. There's nothing bad in that, except that this is an obstacle to a fair distribution of coins. Whales are just getting the gift and since they are already rich then they forget about bytes until they eventually will decide to dump them at some point, crashing the price and hurting the moltitude of the latecomers.

A way to improve the fairness of distribution would be to diminish progressively the quantity of bytes given for every BTC after the first BTC that the bot finds on each address.
In other words: if you have up to one BTC in one linked address you get the max amount of bytes per BTC. If you have more than one BTC in the linked address you get a bit less for the second BTC, and even less for the third BTC, and so on.
This way, big BTC holders will statistically get proportionally less bytes than little BTC holders. Of course, if you want to get the max quantity of bytes you can always spread all your BTCs through different addresses and link them all to the bot, and for sure this is what I'd do since I don't own too many BTCs. But a whale who owns 1000 BTCs or 10,000 or 100,000 would never be able or be willing to spread all his BTCs on so many different addresses and go through the process of linking them all to the bot.
The result would be a more homogeneous distribution of the coin and I think that this would benefit the project.
Anyone who likes my idea is welcome to tip me with some bytes, or some gigabytes, or even terabytes, if you prefer Wink
My address: 7BO67BNRHQZ6P32U7YIIB4MFOW4JGRNU


STFU this system can be gamed. A whale just has to distribute their BTC between many addresses. Also, the current system is already fair. The more BTC you have the more BB you are entitled to, very simple. Why on Earth should all people receive equal amounts no matter what is their stake in the Bitcoin pie? People are not equal, this is a fact whether you like it or not. Some took a greater risk by investing into BTC early on, they should be rewarded more for that risk. You almost sound like some crazed social justice warrior. Your idea would be absolutely unfair.

I would suggest that Tonych also distribute to the holders of other crypto-currencies, according to a capitalization total criterion, for example greater than $ 10 billion.
In this case, owners of XRP and ETH.

This would greatly diversify the holders base.
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 257
Little bit of a rise today Smiley

Distribution getting nearer. And this time with 20%  Smiley
hero member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 507
The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die
Little bit of a rise today Smiley
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
......But a whale who owns 1000 BTCs or 10,000 or 100,000 would never be able or be willing to spread all his BTCs on so many different addresses and go through the process of linking them all to the bot.......

This can easily be automated.
The point he tries to make is, not everybody would go through the pain of automation, even though its technically possible.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1015
......But a whale who owns 1000 BTCs or 10,000 or 100,000 would never be able or be willing to spread all his BTCs on so many different addresses and go through the process of linking them all to the bot.......

This can easily be automated.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1015
did anyone mentioned about this news?
Jaxx is going to add byteball on its roadmap !!

https://www.ethnews.com/digital-wallet-announces-integration-with-industry-leaders?platform=hootsuite

I still want Byteballs and blackbytes on my Ledger Nano S Sad
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