Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments - page 96. (Read 1234271 times)

I've been hoping for this for months. But as a developer, he probably lives in his own world, and his mindless community, along with his incompetent marketing, also cheers him on in it. - The term "sect" is exactly right.

My dear bobq.
Earth historically we had the most abundant flora and fauna when the poles were ice-free. - Now you may guess what the climate apocalyptics and their propaganda are interested in.
Tip: Scarcity and lack secure dominion.

So we should be happy if the Bitcoin mining makes our ice age climate a bit more life friendly.  

"to jeopardize human life on earth" 
MADE MY DAY laughable
nature.com has no idea and they don't no the lightning network ^^

Hi!

What is going on with wallets? I tried to send transaction via wallet on Linux, Windows 10 (virtualbox) and Android -- same story:

This is totally true and it should be engraved in stone, since Bitcoin evangelists seem so much in denial of that.
And even worse than this, PoW mining has also resulted to be totally unsustainable from an ecological point of view. Not only the waste of resources which heavy mining implies is basically nonsense, but it even could contribute to jeopardize human life on earth by accelerating global warming until it eventually spins out of control.
And that's not only me who is saying it. Please enjoy this article on the theme on prestigious magazine Nature:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-018-0321-8.epdf

Byteball is much more likely than Bitcoin to spare human life on earth from extinction.
Not that this is necessarily auspicable, of course...

Don't you see that you are highly biased about OpenBazaar and blackbytes with BISQ. Do you also see that you have 0 authority to tell what other developers should spend their time on?


Byteball foundation doesn't have time to build everything by themselves, so they focus on architecture to enable other developers to do that. Byteball does sponsor third-party solutions that help Byteball ecosystem. Haven't you heard of grants?
https://medium.com/byteball/byteball-grants-program-906a71b93d3c

It is over year old program and many grants have been accepted with that already, most already done and some in progress even now. So what exactly are you bitching about? Find some developers (get feedback to your ideas on Steemit) and start writing your grant proposal that you believe will take Byteball to next level.

These great early days are not gone (it is just beginning), Ethereum has supported many teams with grants, but I am not sure if all. Some examples of projects that are not run by Ethereum itself: MetaMask, Infura, CryptoZombies, Truffle, 0x, CryptoKitties. These are all very important parts of Ethereum ecosystem.

2018 is same as 2014 and 2021 will be same as 2017. Start building.

Again sounds good but merchants happy with fiat and bitcoins. They don't want to waste time on shitcoins. I know i know byterbal is not shitcoin. Sorry for breaking your bubble but coin that nobody not use and can loss 99% of the value is nothing more than shitcoin for all who are not members of this sect. So accept it, byterbal is shitcoin and merchants don't want to waste time on this.
Byterbal foundation must build solutions itself or sponsor third-party solutions. Purse for byterbal? OB for byterbal? Localbyterbals? Tony and the team must build it all itself or connect to existing solutions (if it possible). No one will come and give you this, the days of early Bitcoin are long gone.
Take it mazafackers, byterbal is not interesting to the world, to the airdrop suckers. The only who can make byterbal great again is Tony. He need to change his thinking, stop to build crappy bots, dismiss idiots who spend time retweeting their tweets, start to build solutions, find partnerships, improve scalability and distribute all witnesses.

Pure waste of time and energy.
They already have a problem with Bitcoin. Nobody knows bite ball at all, and then still this subliminally dubious label...

Above all, we need a quite anonymous way to exchange Fiat directly for Bites/Blackbites. A BISQ adapted to the wallet is perfectly sufficient. - More exchanges only serve speculators.
You may want to look for markets where crypto currencies are already accepted. These markets are growing exponentially.
The Fiat market has its Visa and Paypal.

I draw my income from it.
However, there is still a lot to improve on this platform, and that's exactly what the united developer power should focus on, then it will finally be something with the acceptance of crypto currencies.

Please don't see we must spread the word!! only from customer view.
What about with the local shops?
Spread the word includes more!

For example:
- Create for your local city flyers with jumio vouchers
- Share this flyer in kiosks, gas- station, schools wherever
- Speak with the owner of the shops for accept bytes in 2020
- The owner can only win with this and if he accept bytes he have new customers, too

~ This is maybe the some right way, not perfect, but a good start
an a Win-Win-Win situation for all for all involved. + you get rich  

* before 2020 we need more exchanges for volume and a service like bitpay for bytes.

The concept of the open bazaar is very interesting, but it looks like a cemetery?
or i am wrong and the platform have trades?

Instead of always asking, use the lego stones of byteball and start!
tony is a smart people, but he need the help of community.

Tony should now be able to accelerate an Open Bazaar adaptation.

This could also be used to control further distribution.
All sales of Bites/Blackbites will be rewarded, both for the buyer and the seller.

If necessary modifications would be possible. Open Bazaar is not really decentralized. The problem are central search providers that can censor unwanted articles.
Randomly rotating witnesses routed over TOR could take over their task.

The topic is already months old, that it is not taken up by the community is probably mainly due to the fact that the community itself is more Fiat-focused and has little interest in bite ball as a means of payment for the purchase of goods to see.

money that nobody accept is a money or scam? Why hold balls that can not be spent, if you can exchange them to bitcoins or dollars that you can spend?
I know Tony thinking, need to create a base of holders, holders will create demand for merchants. Sounds reasonable if you early, when holders have small choice and they see and believe in your vision. The reality is different. People receiving balls have better alternatives and are not even interested in your philosophy. Balls for them is free bitcoins or dollars. Therefore, Tony's thinking will not lead to adoption. It works, but it works only under certain conditions.

Yes, as soon as you can buy something for it in a suitable market.

If you go another way you accumulate the existing bite ball units only among the few believing bite ball fanboys and Fiat greedy speculators.

At first view the lottery idea to be good.
but in the second view very bad. all winners dump the bytes.
the undistributed bytes determine the future of byteball.

The real name verification and the reward (with voucher codes) is the key!
Not online, but offline
the community will be grow.

we need only patience...
or better say, we must spread the word!!

20,00$ is a lot of money and 400 MB is much more  

Lottery has always been a good idea to "attract" people - or new users. It also allows the platform to showcase how easy smart contracts work.

thought very well.
most people turn off brain, if computer language come into the conversation
or they are difficult to understand.

Yes, I agree a lottery is a great idea, and has appeal outside current crypto users.

But, the goal of initial distribution is not making some lucky guy rich, the goal is to be a fair initial distribution. So, as many as possible people (especially non-existing cryptocurrency users) will get some bytes. Lottery just makes very few people extremely rich and some linking system is very similar to the same system that airdrop to Bitcoin users already was, including people who already have bytes, not new users https://byteball.org/#dist

You are explaining the exactly the opposite. Yes, everybody knows that Dollar and Euro is bigger than cent or penny, but new users don't know that Bitcoin is bigger than satoshi, they need to learn it first and it is confusing because in real world, coins (metal money) are smaller units than paper money and because more notable people (Benjamin Franklin) are on higher paper money notes. So, if new users have heard Bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto then first impression is opposite - Bitcoin seems small unit because it is coin and Satoshi seems big unit because it is notable person (like on paper note). And no, there is not many system components that need to be rewritten, on background Byteball uses Bytes everywhere, kilobyte/megabyte/gigabyte is just a way how to show ridiculously big byte values in comfortable format that makes sense for the user, so instead of displaying 100 000 000 bytes, it can be displayed as 100MB. There is nothing bad about computer format, it is universal, even Google can help you calculate it https://www.google.com/search?q=100000000+bytes+to+megabyte

If Bitcoin/Satoshi makes sense to you, but Byte/KiloByte/MegaByte/GigaByte doesn't then you have misunderstood something. Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies, the amount you have them, doesn't relate to what you can do with them, the value in them is constantly changing. On Byteball, 1MB means that you can do transactions or store data that takes 1MB of space on DAG database.

I really like the lottery! It would show how easy smart contracts works, it would incite people to buy some bytes, and it would create a buzz. But only if the price is big enough.

Great idea!

Thanks for your feedback. I want to add something:

Airdrop Lottery
Of course, I know this lottery. But I'm talking about an Airdrop distribution and new users. With the existing Smart Contract lottery you also have to spend bytes to participate. My suggestion is to link the bytes only. In addition, the profit in the existing lottery is far too low to ensure a new spread, since it consists only of the deposits of users. My suggestion is to use the Distribution Fund.

Bytes vs. Dollar / penny
You have to do it as easy as possible. How do you make it easy for people? By giving you something that you already know. People know dollars and cents. You know euros and cents. I mean people know a main and a small unit. This has already worked for Bitcoin. There are many decimal places at Bitcoin and the Satoshis are the cents. Everyone gets it right the first time. We would first have to explain the gigadollar or megaeuro. Of course, this would be a far-reaching change, as many system components need to be rewritten. But if, why not now? Currencies have produced similar units for centuries: a main unit and a penny unit. At the beginning, I also thought that gigabytes, megabytes and bytes would actually be quite elegant, but in reality you force people to use a computer format.

Ok, maybe I should explain the idea of the AirDrop lottery again:

There is no fair distribution. There will always be people who get something or even get more and others get nothing. So the goal of the distribution is not fairness. The goal must be - with the resources available - to reach as many people as possible. With a weekly raffle of $ 25K from the official team, attention could be generated for many months at a much lower cost than previous Airdrops. By the height of the possible profit new users are attracted. A 25K USD profit is a life-changing event. This makes the rounds. Next you need bytes in the wallet for the lottery. Saving bytes (linking, not spending, like the existing lottery - just linking!) to the raffle could stimulate the market and raise prices. Nothing attracts more new people in the crypto universe, like rising prices! This is how the crypto market works (unfortunately). I think the topic of mass adaptation in the crypto world is only about the widest possible number of users. There must be many users and only then come the shops. Not the other way around. Therefore, the goal must be to get as many people on the platform as possible.

Calculation example: Even with the currently low byte price 600 raffles could be made with the remaining distribution fund paying a 25,000 USD profit each. Such a weekly raffle would be possible for years. Of course it makes no sense to do this for years, the example is only to show how long you can operate with the Fund such an Airdrop lottery.