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That is not possible  to emit corruption from the team of Pakistan and from the World cricket. Pakistani cricket is destroyed due to corruption of big persons and also Politics played vital role to destroy Pakistani cricket. Pakistani cricket could be best but many selectors and coaches occupied the seats which they didn't deserve. When Imran was a PM of Pakistan ,he made Rameez Raja as a chairman of cricket board but he took bad decisions for the country and he damaged major. Then Amir is in the team but his performance is zero but he has reference of Wahab Riaz because they did work together and Wahab supported Imad and Amir . This politics is damaging the Pakistani cricket.We saw the performance of Pakistani team in World cup that was zero and Pakistan could be out of the next World cup.

Corruption is the main reason, along with nepotism. Because political interference is there for almost all the Asian teams (including India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka). BTW, I am quite surprised with your outburst against Rameez Raja. He was the one who rescued PCB. The PSL was about to implode as a result of fights between the franchise owners and PCB, but Rameez stepped in and came up with a deal that is acceptable to everyone. Also he was the one who finalized the media rights deal a few years back, which significantly boosted the PCB revenues.
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Basically I think the main reason is the references. Means the selection committee always give the chance to those players who have strong references. Or we can say they give chance who gave money to the selection committee. Means directly or indirectly corruption is interfering. And selection committee is not giving the chance to those who has the natural talents.
And one is the most important thing which effect on our national team is match fixing. Many of our players are involved in it. Well if Pakistani team really want to remain in the top teams so PCB should resolve these issues.
Exactly that are some main reasons which have affected the Pakistan team otherwise we have seen that how Pakistani team played in the past. Match fixing is the main reason I think so. And we have seen many cases and many players have lost their careers. One of them is Muhammad Amir too. And you raise a point if Corruption so corruption is not  only in the cricket this is in every field. In every Institution. If PCB will fix these issues so I am sure that they will make a not beatable team.
That is not possible  to emit corruption from the team of Pakistan and from the World cricket. Pakistani cricket is destroyed due to corruption of big persons and also Politics played vital role to destroy Pakistani cricket. Pakistani cricket could be best but many selectors and coaches occupied the seats which they didn't deserve. When Imran was a PM of Pakistan ,he made Rameez Raja as a chairman of cricket board but he took bad decisions for the country and he damaged major. Then Amir is in the team but his performance is zero but he has reference of Wahab Riaz because they did work together and Wahab supported Imad and Amir . This politics is damaging the Pakistani cricket.We saw the performance of Pakistani team in World cup that was zero and Pakistan could be out of the next World cup .
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It is the fivth match of kunduz. It is the between maiwand champion and HinduKush. Maiwand champion won the toss and elected batting. Hindu Kush bowler out the maiwand champion batsman in the fourth ball of the 4 over. This is the first achievement for Hindu Kush bowler. This is the bad started for maiwand champion batsman. Maiwand champion batsman makes 8 run in 5 over and 1 out. Once time again Hindu Kush bowler out the maiwand champion batsman in the fivth ball of the 7 over.This is the second achievement for Hindu Kush team. Maiwand champion batsman makes 23 run in 10 over and 23 over. Maiwand champion batsman are not working hard and struggle. Maiwand champion batsman makes 172 run in 46 over and 10 outs. This is the target for Hindu Kush batsman. This is the easy target. Hindu Kush batsman can complete this target and won the match.
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Basically I think the main reason is the references. Means the selection committee always give the chance to those players who have strong references. Or we can say they give chance who gave money to the selection committee. Means directly or indirectly corruption is interfering. And selection committee is not giving the chance to those who has the natural talents.
And one is the most important thing which effect on our national team is match fixing. Many of our players are involved in it. Well if Pakistani team really want to remain in the top teams so PCB should resolve these issues.
Exactly that are some main reasons which have affected the Pakistan team otherwise we have seen that how Pakistani team played in the past. Match fixing is the main reason I think so. And we have seen many cases and many players have lost their careers. One of them is Muhammad Amir too. And you raise a point if Corruption so corruption is not  only in the cricket this is in every field. In every Institution. If PCB will fix these issues so I am sure that they will make a not beatable team.
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If Pakistan cricket did not have any kind of problems with the match-fixing, this could certainly be a very different story for Pakistan cricket. So many players have been caught and many cricketer have actually lost their careers because of this.

Corruption is obviously everywhere. But for some reason, it is actually very much visible in Pakistan. The reputation of Pakistan is obviously not good at all. But I think things have changed a lot. Right now the players that the Pakistan team has, are obviously of a different mindset. I don't think it is going to be a big problem for Pakistan to actually find really good players who are interested in cricket. Kids who can play really well, should also not be that hard to find in Pakistan. But even though match-fixing is not a thing anymore, corruption is definitely still very prominent.

Correct, But there are many stars of Pakistani cricket who did excellent work for the country but after that they became greedy and then they are caught by the ICC and they are expelled out from the International team but also from domestic cricket. Not only Pakistani cricketers did corruption for theirselves but we saw big players of Australian when they did match fixing. Cheaters are present in all the teams of World but Pakistani players are prominent because Pakistan country is begger county and beggers are not choosers.Pakistani team is good and Pakistan country is full of talented people but no one can beat Pakistan team if ICC didn't interrupt in Pakistan success. They changed the action of Saeed Ajmal because they could not see the the success of Pakistani cricket.
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Cricket is only the place for the players to perform. We cannot make players in  cricket matches because in International team we need good planner, good hard hitters, good pressure handlers, good bowlers like Muhammad Amir when he came in International team. We need good partnership builders and strong mindset players but now our team lack in everything. No single player is available in the team ,we saw their performance in T20 World Cup where they could not chase only 120 runs . Pakistani team should sink in water due to disrespect.But they are living their life happy and we won the World Cup 15 years ago and now we have no strong team . Players have no conversation with each other and that is also big cause of failure.
Basically I think the main reason is the references. Means the selection committee always give the chance to those players who have strong references. Or we can say they give chance who gave money to the selection committee. Means directly or indirectly corruption is interfering. And selection committee is not giving the chance to those who has the natural talents.
And one is the most important thing which effect on our national team is match fixing. Many of our players are involved in it. Well if Pakistani team really want to remain in the top teams so PCB should resolve these issues.

If Pakistan cricket did not have any kind of problems with the match-fixing, this could certainly be a very different story for Pakistan cricket. So many players have been caught and many cricketer have actually lost their careers because of this.

Corruption is obviously everywhere. But for some reason, it is actually very much visible in Pakistan. The reputation of Pakistan is obviously not good at all. But I think things have changed a lot. Right now the players that the Pakistan team has, are obviously of a different mindset. I don't think it is going to be a big problem for Pakistan to actually find really good players who are interested in cricket. Kids who can play really well, should also not be that hard to find in Pakistan. But even though match-fixing is not a thing anymore, corruption is definitely still very prominent.
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Cricket is only the place for the players to perform. We cannot make players in  cricket matches because in International team we need good planner, good hard hitters, good pressure handlers, good bowlers like Muhammad Amir when he came in International team. We need good partnership builders and strong mindset players but now our team lack in everything. No single player is available in the team ,we saw their performance in T20 World Cup where they could not chase only 120 runs . Pakistani team should sink in water due to disrespect.But they are living their life happy and we won the World Cup 15 years ago and now we have no strong team . Players have no conversation with each other and that is also big cause of failure.
Basically I think the main reason is the references. Means the selection committee always give the chance to those players who have strong references. Or we can say they give chance who gave money to the selection committee. Means directly or indirectly corruption is interfering. And selection committee is not giving the chance to those who has the natural talents.
And one is the most important thing which effect on our national team is match fixing. Many of our players are involved in it. Well if Pakistani team really want to remain in the top teams so PCB should resolve these issues.
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U - 19 team of any country is a future of  country and PCB should work on this because young talent could be judge by the tournaments of young players. But PCB is now focusing on Champion Trophy because Pakistan will be host of that tournament and all teams of World will participate in this tournament. Pakistan Cricket is thinking to earn money but they are not working to rise the talent and young players will get money from them and they don't want to invest on that . That is cheap thinking of PCB but U don't like that because for my country that decision is not good.U- 19 teams tournaments are very less in Pakistan but they are important for the country. We saw bad performance of Pakistani team in T20 World cup, this is only due to lack of tournaments of U19 players.
Exactly this is a big deal. And PCB is in it. They are hosting the champion trophy therefore they can't focus on the U19 teams and can't consume the funds on them because they have a big challenge ahead means the champion trophy. We know that how the economic situation of the Pakistan and in this situation the security the management means everything has some cost. So in this situation PCB can't focus on U19 teams. But that's right that the U19 teams are the real future of a main cricket team. I hope after the champion trophy PCB will focus on new talents.
Cricket is only the place for the players to perform. We cannot make players in  cricket matches because in International team we need good planner, good hard hitters, good pressure handlers, good bowlers like Muhammad Amir when he came in International team. We need good partnership builders and strong mindset players but now our team lack in everything. No single player is available in the team ,we saw their performance in T20 World Cup where they could not chase only 120 runs . Pakistani team should sink in water due to disrespect.But they are living their life happy and we won the World Cup 15 years ago and now we have no strong team . Players have no conversation with each other and that is also big cause of failure.
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U - 19 team of any country is a future of  country and PCB should work on this because young talent could be judge by the tournaments of young players. But PCB is now focusing on Champion Trophy because Pakistan will be host of that tournament and all teams of World will participate in this tournament. Pakistan Cricket is thinking to earn money but they are not working to rise the talent and young players will get money from them and they don't want to invest on that . That is cheap thinking of PCB but U don't like that because for my country that decision is not good.U- 19 teams tournaments are very less in Pakistan but they are important for the country. We saw bad performance of Pakistani team in T20 World cup, this is only due to lack of tournaments of U19 players.
Exactly this is a big deal. And PCB is in it. They are hosting the champion trophy therefore they can't focus on the U19 teams and can't consume the funds on them because they have a big challenge ahead means the champion trophy. We know that how the economic situation of the Pakistan and in this situation the security the management means everything has some cost. So in this situation PCB can't focus on U19 teams. But that's right that the U19 teams are the real future of a main cricket team. I hope after the champion trophy PCB will focus on new talents.
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ICC should work on development of cricket. ICC should provide opportunity to the players that are young and they want to become big players , when they will play out of the country,they will face different environment and they will see good opportunities and they will develop new skills. In practical life , skills matters a lot because when you will face the all type of batters and bowlers and you will face difficult situations ,you will be more prepared and you will get more chance of learning.Because for every young person, experience matters a lot and they will be big players if they will play against big players and they will perform well against big players. In International matches, there should be trained players who played well in all countries and they are in good form.

Nowadays we hardly witness any tours from the A, U-23 and U-19 teams. With T20 franchise leagues dominating cricket scenario, these tours have become obsolete. But the problem is that T20 leagues are not a great place for emerging players to showcase their talent. For that they need the U-23 and U-19 matches. When Rambo was the PCB head, he organized the Pakistan Junior League (PJL) for U-19 players. Such tournaments can be ideal for younger players. But after one season, it was scrapped.
U - 19 team of any country is a future of  country and PCB should work on this because young talent could be judge by the tournaments of young players. But PCB is now focusing on Champion Trophy because Pakistan will be host of that tournament and all teams of World will participate in this tournament. Pakistan Cricket is thinking to earn money but they are not working to rise the talent and young players will get money from them and they don't want to invest on that . That is cheap thinking of PCB but U don't like that because for my country that decision is not good.U- 19 teams tournaments are very less in Pakistan but they are important for the country. We saw bad performance of Pakistani team in T20 World cup, this is only due to lack of tournaments of U19 players.
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BCCI is currently having two advantages which are helping them for having good and quick development in game one Indian economy is having good growth and second they are most populated country in the world with we have two more countries Pakistan and Bangladesh but sadly their economy is having no growth like India so they are having lacking of sponsors otherwise surely we will have good cricket system and teams in these countries as well with right now it's all about money which is helping for having good and solid things around them.

But as now we are heading for the new era in cricket we are having good changes this T20i format is bringing many countries in this game which is better specially recently we are having USA which hosts World Cup and now also having MLC which is good for the development of this game around the world.
I also think India strong economy and large population have helped cricket develop well in country. But it is sad that neighboring countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh with many talented cricketers are struggling due to financial problems. They lack sponsors and resources making it hard to build strong cricket system. However new T20I format and the entry of new countries like USA into sport are positive steps towards making cricket global game. World Cup and MLC being hosted in USA is big deal and I believe it will help make cricket more popular worldwide. With new teams and leagues coming in cricket is entering an exciting phase of growth and competition.
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ICC should work on development of cricket. ICC should provide opportunity to the players that are young and they want to become big players , when they will play out of the country,they will face different environment and they will see good opportunities and they will develop new skills. In practical life , skills matters a lot because when you will face the all type of batters and bowlers and you will face difficult situations ,you will be more prepared and you will get more chance of learning.Because for every young person, experience matters a lot and they will be big players if they will play against big players and they will perform well against big players. In International matches, there should be trained players who played well in all countries and they are in good form.

Nowadays we hardly witness any tours from the A, U-23 and U-19 teams. With T20 franchise leagues dominating cricket scenario, these tours have become obsolete. But the problem is that T20 leagues are not a great place for emerging players to showcase their talent. For that they need the U-23 and U-19 matches. When Rambo was the PCB head, he organized the Pakistan Junior League (PJL) for U-19 players. Such tournaments can be ideal for younger players. But after one season, it was scrapped.
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According to my opinion in under 19 cricket players are still in developing phase and it is difficult to predict which one will win, while their playing structure and domestic performance of the team is very important role in their selection. Sri Lanka under 19 team is a good team selection but England under 19 team structure is very best So I want to see England under 19 team to win test cricket match but in gane anything can happen let's see who will win.
Yes exactly, everyone has their own point of view and it doesn't matter which team won series and which not. According to me both team performed greatly in this series Under 19s of Sri Lanka and England. I really enjoyed all games of this series and in 1 st game, Sri Lanka U19 team showed brilliant struggle and their effort was totally amazing. But in next two games their team played very slowly and did not made good runs and their bowlers also did not bowled good and did not stop batsman of England for low runs that's why their team lose these two games and also lose this series. Now both of them will play next series Test games and I believe that in this series Sri Lanka U19 team perform better and they will not repeat mistakes they made in past  games. 1 st unofficial test game will played today and I choose Sri Lanka U19 team in game who will win game.
Nearly two decades back we were having strong systems in many countries which were doing good work for the development of their game and having teams with U-19, U-23 and A team were having regularly tours of the different countries for the experience and development of their game but as we have changes like T20i and now franchise leagues things are taking changes, and we are having no good number of tours for these youngsters which are important because tours like these are working good for them and game as well.

Few boards are not able to handle these things which are surely problem because they are having limited sources, but we need some good support from the ICC for this as we are having things like these in FIFA which is doing good work for the development of the game.
ICC should work on development of cricket. ICC should provide opportunity to the players that are young and they want to become big players , when they will play out of the country,they will face different environment and they will see good opportunities and they will develop new skills. In practical life , skills matters a lot because when you will face the all type of batters and bowlers and you will face difficult situations ,you will be more prepared and you will get more chance of learning.Because for every young person, experience matters a lot and they will be big players if they will play against big players and they will perform well against big players. In International matches, there should be trained players who played well in all countries and they are in good form.
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BCCI took great step to give rest to big players of team amf they gave chance to  youngesters because BCCI can't test youngesters against big team like Australia and England but they can check the capability and stamina of players against small teams like Zimbabwe and Namibia. But Zimbabwe team played well in first T20 and Sikander Raza was a match changer in this match but Indian team did come back and and performed well in second match and won the match by high margin. Two slots are available in Indian Cricket team and two new Youngesters will fill that space and we will see that Indian team will be strong in future because whole country love cricket.
BCCI is currently having two advantages which are helping them for having good and quick development in game one Indian economy is having good growth and second they are most populated country in the world with we have two more countries Pakistan and Bangladesh but sadly their economy is having no growth like India so they are having lacking of sponsors otherwise surely we will have good cricket system and teams in these countries as well with right now it's all about money which is helping for having good and solid things around them.

But as now we are heading for the new era in cricket we are having good changes this T20i format is bringing many countries in this game which is better specially recently we are having USA which hosts World Cup and now also having MLC which is good for the development of this game around the world.
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BCCI took great step to give rest to big players of team amf they gave chance to  youngesters because BCCI can't test youngesters against big team like Australia and England but they can check the capability and stamina of players against small teams like Zimbabwe and Namibia. But Zimbabwe team played well in first T20 and Sikander Raza was a match changer in this match but Indian team did come back and and performed well in second match and won the match by high margin. Two slots are available in Indian Cricket team and two new Youngesters will fill that space and we will see that Indian team will be strong in future because whole country love cricket.
Yes you are right that is the good decision because they are giving chances to new talents. If they are giving rest to big players and giving the chance to new players so BCCI want to select more valuable players for the team because they are good in cricket. I have seen in both Women Cricket and Men Cricket. BCCI is playing a big role in cricket. And both teams are strong. While we can see how Indian Men team won the T20 World Cup and in Women Cricket how Indian team is playing with South Africa Women team. So in both cases they are strong. So if they are giving chance to new talents so this is really good decision.

One thing India has is a good supply of young cricketers. And another thing that India does really well is, it doesn’t matter how they spend money or how they waste money and how much nepotism and favoritism they have, they are still bringing in interesting players. And those players are actually world-class. Sometimes they don't even have to make those players world-class. Those players are basically ready to play at the top level of competition from the start.

Giving good chances to the new talent are always going to be the best decision that any team's authority can make. Because if you do that, instead of waiting for the day when the players who are already playing will perform well, you would actually get players who can perform well regularly. Basically you will not have to wait for the day when one player is going to perform well after giving chances consistently. And you will even have good replacements ready just like the Indian team has.
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BCCI took great step to give rest to big players of team amf they gave chance to  youngesters because BCCI can't test youngesters against big team like Australia and England but they can check the capability and stamina of players against small teams like Zimbabwe and Namibia. But Zimbabwe team played well in first T20 and Sikander Raza was a match changer in this match but Indian team did come back and and performed well in second match and won the match by high margin. Two slots are available in Indian Cricket team and two new Youngesters will fill that space and we will see that Indian team will be strong in future because whole country love cricket.
Yes you are right that is the good decision because they are giving chances to new talents. If they are giving rest to big players and giving the chance to new players so BCCI want to select more valuable players for the team because they are good in cricket. I have seen in both Women Cricket and Men Cricket. BCCI is playing a big role in cricket. And both teams are strong. While we can see how Indian Men team won the T20 World Cup and in Women Cricket how Indian team is playing with South Africa Women team. So in both cases they are strong. So if they are giving chance to new talents so this is really good decision.
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According to my opinion in under 19 cricket players are still in developing phase and it is difficult to predict which one will win, while their playing structure and domestic performance of the team is very important role in their selection. Sri Lanka under 19 team is a good team selection but England under 19 team structure is very best So I want to see England under 19 team to win test cricket match but in gane anything can happen let's see who will win.
Yes exactly, everyone has their own point of view and it doesn't matter which team won series and which not. According to me both team performed greatly in this series Under 19s of Sri Lanka and England. I really enjoyed all games of this series and in 1 st game, Sri Lanka U19 team showed brilliant struggle and their effort was totally amazing. But in next two games their team played very slowly and did not made good runs and their bowlers also did not bowled good and did not stop batsman of England for low runs that's why their team lose these two games and also lose this series. Now both of them will play next series Test games and I believe that in this series Sri Lanka U19 team perform better and they will not repeat mistakes they made in past  games. 1 st unofficial test game will played today and I choose Sri Lanka U19 team in game who will win game.
Nearly two decades back we were having strong systems in many countries which were doing good work for the development of their game and having teams with U-19, U-23 and A team were having regularly tours of the different countries for the experience and development of their game but as we have changes like T20i and now franchise leagues things are taking changes, and we are having no good number of tours for these youngsters which are important because tours like these are working good for them and game as well.

Few boards are not able to handle these things which are surely problem because they are having limited sources, but we need some good support from the ICC for this as we are having things like these in FIFA which is doing good work for the development of the game.
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There is no doubt these U-19 players are mostly in early stage of their career which give them some confidence but mostly are having unpredictable nature which give unusual results in one game we have poor run then suddenly in next game we are having good change of their performance and things also take changes with this mostly they are having good performance but still it needs time for having consistency and quality in recent years we are having some good work by ICC as we are having few events for these youngsters and few boards are also allowing their players for touring other countries which give them good confidence and experience.

In last few years we are having good results from India, Australia and England which are improving their system and things are going on next level as we watch in second game of Zimbabwe vs India match.
BCCI took great step to give rest to big players of team amf they gave chance to  youngesters because BCCI can't test youngesters against big team like Australia and England but they can check the capability and stamina of players against small teams like Zimbabwe and Namibia. But Zimbabwe team played well in first T20 and Sikander Raza was a match changer in this match but Indian team did come back and and performed well in second match and won the match by high margin. Two slots are available in Indian Cricket team and two new Youngesters will fill that space and we will see that Indian team will be strong in future because whole country love cricket.
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According to my opinion in under 19 cricket players are still in developing phase and it is difficult to predict which one will win, while their playing structure and domestic performance of the team is very important role in their selection. Sri Lanka under 19 team is a good team selection but England under 19 team structure is very best So I want to see England under 19 team to win test cricket match but in gane anything can happen let's see who will win.
Yes exactly, everyone has their own point of view and it doesn't matter which team won series and which not. According to me both team performed greatly in this series Under 19s of Sri Lanka and England. I really enjoyed all games of this series and in 1 st game, Sri Lanka U19 team showed brilliant struggle and their effort was totally amazing. But in next two games their team played very slowly and did not made good runs and their bowlers also did not bowled good and did not stop batsman of England for low runs that's why their team lose these two games and also lose this series. Now both of them will play next series Test games and I believe that in this series Sri Lanka U19 team perform better and they will not repeat mistakes they made in past  games. 1 st unofficial test game will played today and I choose Sri Lanka U19 team in game who will win game.
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Exactly in the test formats a player can show his skills. Because he has the time to understand the bowler and bowler has the time to understand the batsman. And I am also looking Srilanka U19 team as a strong team as compare to England U19 team. Of course England U19 team won the last match of the ODI series but overall performance of Srilanka team is admirable. Well tomorrow they will start the test match so let's hope Srilanka will continue their performance ad they performed in ODI series.
According to my opinion in under 19 cricket players are still in developing phase and it is difficult to predict which one will win, while their playing structure and domestic performance of the team is very important role in their selection. Sri Lanka under 19 team is a good team selection but England under 19 team structure is very best So I want to see England under 19 team to win test cricket match but in gane anything can happen let's see who will win.
There is no doubt these U-19 players are mostly in early stage of their career which give them some confidence but mostly are having unpredictable nature which give unusual results in one game we have poor run then suddenly in next game we are having good change of their performance and things also take changes with this mostly they are having good performance but still it needs time for having consistency and quality in recent years we are having some good work by ICC as we are having few events for these youngsters and few boards are also allowing their players for touring other countries which give them good confidence and experience.

In last few years we are having good results from India, Australia and England which are improving their system and things are going on next level as we watch in second game of Zimbabwe vs India match.
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