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Quote from: JSRAW on September 30, 2019, 12:49:07 PM

Quote from: Little Mouse on September 30, 2019, 12:17:06 PM

O my god! What a significant turn back from Srilanka, 184/5, I thought it will be 150 max since they had lost some early wickets. Shehan and Dhasun are playing incredible innings. Well, it's still on Pakistan hand, provably they will win at the end.

True, they put up good fight in small patches. at least sri Lankan 's lower middle order batsmen and bowlers did good job. feel bad for jaisuriya though, this dude missed out his first international ton.

Really a great fight given by Sri Lanka but in the end Pakistan was a better team. If we leave aside Jayasuria's & Shehan's performance team was really poor in their approach even the bowlers really failed to deliver anything special. It could have been a shameful defeat for Sri Lanka if Shehan & Dhasun wouldn't have gone with that good partnership. Even though it's too early to say but Shehan looks really good batsmen for Sri Lanka got to feel bad for him for missing the century.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 30, 2019, 03:23:36 AM

IPL is generating a lot of revenue for the BCCI, but I don't think that it is being beneficial for the game of cricket. On the other hand, it is negatively affecting the smaller nations (especially teams such as West Indies) by making their best players unavailable for the national duty. Individual players are benefitting a lot from IPL.

I disagree. Its advantages outweigh its disadvantages. More fame, popularity, entertainment value etc is what IPL provides which is why every cricketer wants to be a part of it these days. For example, Bumrah was discovered through IPL and he is the top ranked bowler today.

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 30, 2019, 03:23:36 AM

For example, players such as Kieron Pollard and Andre Russell make from IPL more than 10 times the salary they receive from the WICB. This is good for them. But at the same time, it requires them to put the IPL duty at a higher preference when compared to the national duty.

Almost any player would choose to do so and I don't blame them. Do you blame Ronaldo for moving to Juventus or Neymar for moving to PSG? Its the players choice at the end of the day and he/she is free to do as they please.

Actually these two things can't be compared, football has never really been a popular international sport we merely see the world cup and a handful of friendlies when it comes to international matches. Essence of Football lies in club football while Cricket has always been an international sport except for England county cricket world had never heard of country cricket before IPL. I don't feel there is anything wrong in playing for clubs but national duty as a sportsman must come first no matter what.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 30, 2019, 12:17:06 PM

O my god! What a significant turn back from Srilanka, 184/5, I thought it will be 150 max since they had lost some early wickets. Shehan and Dhasun are playing incredible innings. Well, it's still on Pakistan hand, provably they will win at the end.

It was an amazing fightback, as Shehan Jayasuriya and Dasun Shanaka took Sri Lanka from 28/5 to 205/5. But just when it looked like they'll pull an upset, Usman Shinwari got Jayasuriya out. And Shanaka got out two balls later. Sri Lanka may lose this match to Pakistan, but they can be proud about the performance from these two young players.

Now they need 96 runs from 46 balls, which looks very difficult. Wanindu Hasaranga and Isuru Udana are at the crease, and I don't expect much from these tail end batsmen. Despite the possible win today, Pakistan needs to look in to the spin department. Imad Wasim and Shadab Khan leaked a lot of runs and at no point they looked threatening to the Lankan batsmen.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 30, 2019, 12:17:06 PM

O my god! What a significant turn back from Srilanka, 184/5, I thought it will be 150 max since they had lost some early wickets. Shehan and Dhasun are playing incredible innings. Well, it's still on Pakistan hand, provably they will win at the end.

True, they put up good fight in small patches. at least sri Lankan 's lower middle order batsmen and bowlers did good job. feel bad for jaisuriya though, this dude missed out his first international ton.

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O my god! What a significant turn back from Srilanka, 184/5, I thought it will be 150 max since they had lost some early wickets. Shehan and Dhasun are playing incredible innings. Well, it's still on Pakistan hand, provably they will win at the end.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 30, 2019, 10:27:51 AM

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 30, 2019, 08:43:52 AM

Looks like Pakistan will end up somewhere in the vicinity of 300. To put it honestly, the inexperienced Sri Lankan bowlers had performed better than what was expected from them. Babar Azam looked good and scored at a good pace, but the other batsmen (including both Fakhar Zaman and Haris Sohail) looked very rusty. But the total should be enough for a win, as the Sri Lankan batting lineup is much more inexperienced when compared to their bowlers. They will find life really tough under the raw pace of Mohammad Amir and Wahab Riaz. I don't know much about Usman Shinwari, but this will be a good opportunity for him to cement a place in the playing XI.

After watching some good display of bowling from New Sri Lankan bowlers I was expecting good batting as well but they fail and Usman destroy them badly right now we have 10 overs 28 runs on board and 4 wickets gone look like big defeat is waiting for them in second ODI.

They are struggling on 49/5 . If this is a trend, then Sri Lankans are going to get out under 100 runs.

And i think Pakistan should try at least one new face in their bowling attack against the weaker opposition. may be for next game or T-20 series?

Edit: 107/5

136/5 looks like Jayasuriya and Shanaka have decided to atleast play 50 overs. But even if they play 50 overs it's certainly impossible to score 170 remaining runs in just a matter of 18 overs without Power hitting and Sri lanka with 5 Wickets down doesn't has that power hitting left. This is the last proper batting pair and if a wicket falls the tail is exposed and rest of the team would fall like a domino

Quote from: Little Mouse on September 30, 2019, 10:20:59 AM

SL is in pressure, what's wrong with them Lost already 5 wickets. Pakistan must not welcome SL in this way after 10 years Cheesy

They already have lost the match.
Babor Azam is doing a pretty much good job, excellent average.

Sri Lanka is turning out to be the most disappointing team in world. Even Bangladesh and Afghanistan and even Nepal have given us some great young talents and hopes for an aspiring future in cricket but sri lanka is turning out to be the worst team in Indian subcontinent.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 30, 2019, 10:20:59 AM

SL is in pressure, what's wrong with them Lost already 5 wickets. Pakistan must not welcome SL in this way after 10 years Cheesy

They already have lost the match.
Babor Azam is doing a pretty much good job, excellent average.

Your message has been passed to the team and now still srilanka are 5 wickets down. We are not taking more wickets. I hope now you will like how we are welcoming Srilanka after a decade Cheesy

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Quote from: Indymoney on September 30, 2019, 10:06:51 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 30, 2019, 08:43:52 AM

Looks like Pakistan will end up somewhere in the vicinity of 300. To put it honestly, the inexperienced Sri Lankan bowlers had performed better than what was expected from them. Babar Azam looked good and scored at a good pace, but the other batsmen (including both Fakhar Zaman and Haris Sohail) looked very rusty. But the total should be enough for a win, as the Sri Lankan batting lineup is much more inexperienced when compared to their bowlers. They will find life really tough under the raw pace of Mohammad Amir and Wahab Riaz. I don't know much about Usman Shinwari, but this will be a good opportunity for him to cement a place in the playing XI.

After watching some good display of bowling from New Sri Lankan bowlers I was expecting good batting as well but they fail and Usman destroy them badly right now we have 10 overs 28 runs on board and 4 wickets gone look like big defeat is waiting for them in second ODI.

They are struggling on 49/5 . If this is a trend, then Sri Lankans are going to get out under 100 runs.

And i think Pakistan should try at least one new face in their bowling attack against the weaker opposition. may be for next game or T-20 series?

Edit: 107/5

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Usman Shinwari destroyed the Sri Lankans and out of the seven batsmen who has come out to bat so far, none has managed double digits. This is going to be a very humiliating defeat for Sri Lanka. Given the presence of less experienced players, no one expected them to stage an upset. But most of their fans would have hoped for a honorable performance. Pakistani fans may be feeling ecstatic right now. They are getting to watch an ODI match after a wait for many years... and what a performance by their team... I just hope that the match gets completed and does not get interrupted by rain. Just five more wickets... and I don't think that SL will get to three digits.

It will be interesting to see the odds for Sri Lanka, for the third ODI. Looks risky to bet for them, but Sri Lanka is a team that has made so many comebacks in the past.

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SL is in pressure, what's wrong with them Lost already 5 wickets. Pakistan must not welcome SL in this way after 10 years Cheesy

They already have lost the match.
Babor Azam is doing a pretty much good job, excellent average.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 30, 2019, 08:43:52 AM

Looks like Pakistan will end up somewhere in the vicinity of 300. To put it honestly, the inexperienced Sri Lankan bowlers had performed better than what was expected from them. Babar Azam looked good and scored at a good pace, but the other batsmen (including both Fakhar Zaman and Haris Sohail) looked very rusty. But the total should be enough for a win, as the Sri Lankan batting lineup is much more inexperienced when compared to their bowlers. They will find life really tough under the raw pace of Mohammad Amir and Wahab Riaz. I don't know much about Usman Shinwari, but this will be a good opportunity for him to cement a place in the playing XI.

After watching some good display of bowling from New Sri Lankan bowlers I was expecting good batting as well but they fail and Usman destroy them badly right now we have 10 overs 28 runs on board and 4 wickets gone look like big defeat is waiting for them in second ODI.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 19, 2019, 07:11:39 AM

Speaking of ODI Format, Came across ODI Fab 4 on the Interweb. it gives ans to your question too - Total run during chase- he's beast when chasing the target and crossing Sachin's record is easy peasy as far as Kohli concern.

Guess we need to update our list of Modern Greats in the Shorter format. Never doubted Babar's potential when it comes to Shorter format because he's damn good to watch in the ODI and T-20 but i really want him to succeed in Test Cricket also, otherwise he's another Rohit Sharma in my eyes.

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Looks like Pakistan will end up somewhere in the vicinity of 300. To put it honestly, the inexperienced Sri Lankan bowlers had performed better than what was expected from them. Babar Azam looked good and scored at a good pace, but the other batsmen (including both Fakhar Zaman and Haris Sohail) looked very rusty. But the total should be enough for a win, as the Sri Lankan batting lineup is much more inexperienced when compared to their bowlers. They will find life really tough under the raw pace of Mohammad Amir and Wahab Riaz. I don't know much about Usman Shinwari, but this will be a good opportunity for him to cement a place in the playing XI.

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 30, 2019, 06:52:22 AM

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Fakhar is leading the scoreboard and Imam following the "anchoring the inning" thingy. Pakistan looking strong against the Sri Lankan bowlers, nothing surprising TBH.

Both Fakhar and Imam gave Pakistan a great opening score and I am expecting Azam and Sohail to continue piling on the runs. They will probably reach 300 and Sri Lanka might get bowled out within 250(Wild prediction).

Without Malinga in the squad, I don't see any bowler capable of dismantling the Pakistan squad rapidly. Hasaranga and Udana might pack them up, but they will still probably lose. Lets see what happens.

I didn't expect this kind of performance from New SL bowlers. They are doing a tremendous job in restricting Pakistan's scoreboard under 5.75 runs per over. And this new guy Wanindu Hasaranga took both openers wicket, above 6 runs P/O economy rate but it's still terrific as far as Sri Lankans are concerned.

As of now 269/5 .... 3 overs to go.

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 30, 2019, 04:46:19 AM

Almost any player would choose to do so and I don't blame them. Do you blame Ronaldo for moving to Juventus or Neymar for moving to PSG? Its the players choice at the end of the day and he/she is free to do as they please.

Have to agree with you that ultimately it is up to the player to decide whether he want to earn more and chose IPL, or to earn less and represent his nation. Another point that may give justification to what you posted is the fact that IPL is not the only big T20 league around the globe, and tournaments such as the GT20 of Canada and BBL of Australia have also "poached" players from the smaller nations. Also, IPL is far from the first tournament of that kind. Many years before the IPL was even thought of, players from South Africa and Zimbabwe were moving to England using the Kolpak rule. Now they are also losing a lot of players to Australia and New Zealand as well.

Perhaps you are right. Rather than blaming the IPL, we should be blaming the cricket boards (WICB, ZCB, CSA.etc).

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 30, 2019, 06:02:20 AM

Fakhar is leading the scoreboard and Imam following the "anchoring the inning" thingy. Pakistan looking strong against the Sri Lankan bowlers, nothing surprising TBH.

Both Fakhar and Imam gave Pakistan a great opening score and I am expecting Azam and Sohail to continue piling on the runs. They will probably reach 300 and Sri Lanka might get bowled out within 250(Wild prediction).

Without Malinga in the squad, I don't see any bowler capable of dismantling the Pakistan squad rapidly. Hasaranga and Udana might pack them up, but they will still probably lose. Lets see what happens.

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Okay guys and girls, Pak vs SL game is Live.... Forget BCCI and IPL for today Grin

Fakhar is leading the scoreboard and Imam following the "anchoring the inning" thingy. Pakistan looking strong against the Sri Lankan bowlers, nothing surprising TBH.

Edit : Lol, i posted and Imam gone.... 73/1

Edit 1 : Fakhar Gone! Now 126/2

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 30, 2019, 03:23:36 AM

IPL is generating a lot of revenue for the BCCI, but I don't think that it is being beneficial for the game of cricket. On the other hand, it is negatively affecting the smaller nations (especially teams such as West Indies) by making their best players unavailable for the national duty. Individual players are benefitting a lot from IPL.

I disagree. Its advantages outweigh its disadvantages. More fame, popularity, entertainment value etc is what IPL provides which is why every cricketer wants to be a part of it these days. For example, Bumrah was discovered through IPL and he is the top ranked bowler today.

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 30, 2019, 03:23:36 AM

For example, players such as Kieron Pollard and Andre Russell make from IPL more than 10 times the salary they receive from the WICB. This is good for them. But at the same time, it requires them to put the IPL duty at a higher preference when compared to the national duty.

Almost any player would choose to do so and I don't blame them. Do you blame Ronaldo for moving to Juventus or Neymar for moving to PSG? Its the players choice at the end of the day and he/she is free to do as they please.

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 30, 2019, 01:44:40 AM

Obviously. So many young cricketers are grabbing chances to earn big money through the IPL and even the big leagues like ODI tournaments between nations etc pale in comparison in terms of salaries, entertainment value etc.

IPL is generating a lot of revenue for the BCCI, but I don't think that it is being beneficial for the game of cricket. On the other hand, it is negatively affecting the smaller nations (especially teams such as West Indies) by making their best players unavailable for the national duty. Individual players are benefitting a lot from IPL. For example, players such as Kieron Pollard and Andre Russell make from IPL more than 10 times the salary they receive from the WICB. This is good for them. But at the same time, it requires them to put the IPL duty at a higher preference when compared to the national duty.

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Quote from: Murat on September 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM

Believe it or not, Cricket is losing its colour day by day because of some incident, I think the four countries are the most responsible for this reason

Hilarious. If you followed Cricket matches regularly, you would never make this statement since Cricket is actually becoming more and more popular with time thanks to leagues like the IPL etc. Political problems almost always have a negligible impact in this sport.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 29, 2019, 08:08:10 PM

Ever since the start of the IPL, India has emerged as the revenue powerhouse of cricket, and more than 70% of the global revenues are derived from the Indian market alone. Now this is a problem for the Pakistanis, as they are no longer allowed to participate in the IPL. There are other T20 leagues out there, such as the BBL and the CPL, but none of them are as lucrative as the IPL.

Obviously. So many young cricketers are grabbing chances to earn big money through the IPL and even the big leagues like ODI tournaments between nations etc pale in comparison in terms of salaries, entertainment value etc.

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Quote from: Murat on September 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM

Believe it or not, Cricket is losing its colour day by day because of some incident, I think the four countries are the most responsible for this reason, not only that but also some political decision is also playing a negative role in this regards, especially, in the subcontinent, India, and Pakistan are both playing a nasty game with Cricket. It's a popular game in the subcontinent but this BCCI and PCB are not trying to enhance their relation, these two are always playing a blame game. BCCIC and PCB both try to follow their government's decision and they are not separated from politics. so it's looking an ugly shape for me.

The relation between the two nations have worsened a lot, and therefore it is no longer possible to conduct bilateral tours. Also, Pakistan is no longer hosting such tours, and currently the United Arab Emirates is acting as the home ground. But I don't understand how the bad blood between these two nations are impacting the global spread of the game.

Ever since the start of the IPL, India has emerged as the revenue powerhouse of cricket, and more than 70% of the global revenues are derived from the Indian market alone. Now this is a problem for the Pakistanis, as they are no longer allowed to participate in the IPL. There are other T20 leagues out there, such as the BBL and the CPL, but none of them are as lucrative as the IPL.

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