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Quote from: Ayiranorea on October 29, 2019, 12:21:59 PM

He has agreed that some bookies contacted him for match fixing. The problem he facing is, this has to be reported to the International Cricket Council. He didn't do that, and now for this reason he has been banned from the cricket team for two years. I don't think he'll get back to form if he gets into the playing eleven after two years.

Well... at least some of the blame should be taken by Shakib now. He is one of the most experienced international cricketers, having represented the national side in more than 300 matches. He was aware of all the ICC rules and regulations, and still chose to ignore them (for reasons only known to him). I still believe that the timing is very suspicious and the BCB is going for revenge. But how can you justify him, when he has admitted to the charges that have been levelled against him by the ICC?

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It will be shame for all of us if you guys still think BCB has nothing to do with this.

* Cricketers strike.
* Next day BCB Went hard on press Conference
* Then BCB president meeting with players and they are back to the game. Though News came out BCB president was very angry at players during the meeting with players.
* Shakib didn't join the camp first day but 2nd day he was there for few hours.
* 1-hour meeting with Shakib & BCB president. No one knows what happened.
* Shakib Banned for 1 year.

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Quote from: Ayiranorea on October 29, 2019, 12:21:59 PM

He has agreed that some bookies contacted him for match fixing. The problem he facing is, this has to be reported to the International Cricket Council. He didn't do that, and now for this reason he has been banned from the cricket team for two years. I don't think he'll get back to form if he gets into the playing eleven after two years.

To get a ban now after Shakib al Hasan leading the strike against the BCB has everything to do with the ban and i was wondering how can these players strike against a cricket board and now we saw the final result, the man who was leading the strike is now banned from cricket altogether and his career is almost over and even if the ban is removed i do not think that he will be selected in the team once again. It is really unfortunate to see the Bangladesh's legendary players career to end like this.

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Quote from: Ayiranorea on October 29, 2019, 12:21:59 PM

The problem he facing is, this has to be reported to the International Cricket Council. He didn't do that, and now for this reason he has been banned from the cricket team for two years. I don't think he'll get back to form if he gets into the playing eleven after two years.

This is so sad and pitiful ending after the wonderful run in world cup in England; at some stage he was a too good and commentators started predicting him for player of the tournament but now it seems end of his great career. He also a good performer in IPL for kolkatta team. The reason for banning seems reasonable but an international player must be having enough hectic schedules and might have missed to open to team management on what happened about match fixing.

I mean he might have ignored those approaches like some other investors calls (please remember if you are considerably rich/celebrity, how many agents/sponsors will try to contact for whatever reasons) or might have failed to observe that was the way bookies do approach. Let's hope Shakib will clear all these mess and come back to cricket much stronger. Bangladesh people definitely need him to take their level in cricket to some more higher position.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on October 29, 2019, 11:56:09 AM

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He has been banned from all forms of cricket for the next two years (with one year suspended). He is already 32 years old, and this could possibly mean that his international cricketing career is over for all practical purposes. Staying away from the game for 12 months and then attempting a comeback is not something very easy to do. It looks like he will be looking at other career options in the meantime. BTW, more than Shakib, this is going to have a negative impact on the performance of the Bangladesh team. They badly needed him now.

Damn that is so fast, i thought he was selected in the team for their Indian tour and now he is banned for corruption, it is real bad for the Bangladesh team as he was their best players ever and this ban looks like his career as a cricketer is over, the dispute with the BCB and now the ban things are fishy as hell regarding the circumstances but he needs to spend a lot of money to prove his innocence.

He has agreed that some bookies contacted him for match fixing. The problem he facing is, this has to be reported to the International Cricket Council. He didn't do that, and now for this reason he has been banned from the cricket team for two years. I don't think he'll get back to form if he gets into the playing eleven after two years.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 29, 2019, 08:16:25 AM

He has been banned from all forms of cricket for the next two years (with one year suspended). He is already 32 years old, and this could possibly mean that his international cricketing career is over for all practical purposes. Staying away from the game for 12 months and then attempting a comeback is not something very easy to do. It looks like he will be looking at other career options in the meantime. BTW, more than Shakib, this is going to have a negative impact on the performance of the Bangladesh team. They badly needed him now.

Woof! This is really bad. It's not only bad for the Bangladesh team, but also for cricket as a whole. He's the number one all-rounder and a very classical player; one of my all-time (very) favorite players.

Seriously, he shouldn't be banned for "not informing" about the fixing offer. If he had actually gone for fixing, then the ban would've made sense. But without fixing? This doesn't sound very nice. Maybe he was threatened by bookies regarding the leakage of the offer and that's why he hesitated while informing about it to the Bengal cricket board? Bangladesh ain't very safe and secure anyways.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 29, 2019, 08:16:25 AM

He has been banned from all forms of cricket for the next two years (with one year suspended). He is already 32 years old, and this could possibly mean that his international cricketing career is over for all practical purposes. Staying away from the game for 12 months and then attempting a comeback is not something very easy to do. It looks like he will be looking at other career options in the meantime. BTW, more than Shakib, this is going to have a negative impact on the performance of the Bangladesh team. They badly needed him now.

Damn that is so fast, i thought he was selected in the team for their Indian tour and now he is banned for corruption, it is real bad for the Bangladesh team as he was their best players ever and this ban looks like his career as a cricketer is over, the dispute with the BCB and now the ban things are fishy as hell regarding the circumstances but he needs to spend a lot of money to prove his innocence.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 29, 2019, 07:38:40 AM

Looks political witch hunt to me, we are suppose to believe that after 2 years suddenly ICC woke up and got their shit together. Timing is fucked up here without any doubt and as far as i understand he denied the Bookie's offer. 6-18 months sounds harsh as well - for not reporting-

Probably, but Shakib is not as innocent as you guys make him out to be. As I mentioned earlier, both are at fault here. He is definitely one of the best Cricket players(Already a legend in my opinion), but he has made a lot of mistakes before and this could probably have been one of them.

I do hope that he bows out of this sport gracefully though somehow despite all these allegations even though this seems highly unlikely at this point. I wonder how the Bangladesh team will recover from these consecutive blows.

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In pre-war era Japan, there was a practise called Seppuku (also known as harakiri). It involved elaborate ritual suicide by disembowelment (usually performed with a sword). During the WW2, a lot of the Japanese soldiers committed ritual suicide, in order to avoid being taken as PoW by the Americans and the other allied soldiers.

I can see that the Bangladesh Cricket Board has revived the practise of harakiri. They have done that on their own national team. Can you imagine a Bangladeshi side without Shakib al Hassan? That guy was the backbone for the Bangladeshis for the last so many years. He was the sole Bangladeshi player who had performed well during the CWC 2019. What to say... Bangladesh will become another Zimbabwe now....

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 29, 2019, 08:16:25 AM

He has been banned from all forms of cricket for the next two years (with one year suspended). He is already 32 years old, and this could possibly mean that his international cricketing career is over for all practical purposes. Staying away from the game for 12 months and then attempting a comeback is not something very easy to do. It looks like he will be looking at other career options in the meantime. BTW, more than Shakib, this is going to have a negative impact on the performance of the Bangladesh team. They badly needed him now.

I think this is more a political issue. Bangladesh team has a brilliant guy and he has been accused of this shit. Since he was leading the strike called by the Bangladeshi players, he has been a victim. I don't know what exactly happened though. If it happened long ago, why this has been brought now right after the strike?
Politics will destroy the sub continental cricket someday. More or less all the subcontinental cricket teams are affected by either internal politics or external.
Bangladesh will have a worst series with us. That's sad.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 29, 2019, 07:38:40 AM

Looks political witch hunt to me, we are suppose to believe that after 2 years suddenly ICC woke up and got their shit together. Timing is fucked up here without any doubt and as far as i understand he denied the Bookie's offer. 6-18 months sounds harsh as well - for not reporting-

If the bookies approached him and Shakib al Hassan did not report them to the authorities when he was approached then he will seriously get into trouble as per the ICC policies and with the cold war between BCB and Shakib al Hassan it is possible they have hidden these things from the ICC in the past but now they will not be holding back and it will have an impact in his career as well.

He has been banned from all forms of cricket for the next two years (with one year suspended). He is already 32 years old, and this could possibly mean that his international cricketing career is over for all practical purposes. Staying away from the game for 12 months and then attempting a comeback is not something very easy to do. It looks like he will be looking at other career options in the meantime. BTW, more than Shakib, this is going to have a negative impact on the performance of the Bangladesh team. They badly needed him now.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 29, 2019, 07:38:40 AM

Looks political witch hunt to me, we are suppose to believe that after 2 years suddenly ICC woke up and got their shit together. Timing is fucked up here without any doubt and as far as i understand he denied the Bookie's offer. 6-18 months sounds harsh as well - for not reporting-

If the bookies approached him and Shakib al Hassan did not report them to the authorities when he was approached then he will seriously get into trouble as per the ICC policies and with the cold war between BCB and Shakib al Hassan it is possible they have hidden these things from the ICC in the past but now they will not be holding back and it will have an impact in his career as well.

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Looks political witch hunt to me, we are suppose to believe that after 2 years suddenly ICC woke up and got their shit together. Timing is fucked up here without any doubt and as far as i understand he denied the Bookie's offer. 6-18 months sounds harsh as well - for not reporting-

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 29, 2019, 02:42:41 AM

I don't think BCB is entirely at fault here. I do blame them for the manner in which they handled this entire situation, but this does not mean that the players are completely innocent themselves. Shakib knew damn well what he was doing when he breached the contract.

Also, Tamim decided to stay back all of a sudden and other players could do the same even after the board agreed to their demands which is why both sides are at fault here which is why I mentioned that they need to resolve this asap before it gets any worse in the future.

Big news came just now. Check this:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27955337/shakib-al-hasan-investigation-not-reporting-bookie-approach

Shakib Al Hasan under investigation for not reporting bookie's approach

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Shakib Al Hasan is being investigated by the ICC for not reporting approaches by bookies. It is believed, though, that the ICC has so far not pressed any charges against Shakib, Bangladesh's Test and T20I captain. As reported yesterday, Shakib has missed most of the training sessions in the past few days and the Bangladesh Cricket Board has not officially explained his absence.

You can't blame the BCB here, as it is the ICC which has put him under investigation. In fact, I don't think that the BCB is even involved in anyway here. Irrespective of whether these charges are proven false or not, Shakib is in quite a lot of trouble here. We all saw what happened to the Indian and South African players back in 2000 (Hansie Cronje, Herschelle Gibbs, Ajay Jadeja, Mohammad Azharuddin.etc) when they got accused of similar charges. Their reputation was tarnished forever and their careers were destroyed.

That said, I don't know whether this latest drama is a part of some blackmail attempt or not. But I don't think so at this point of time, due to the involvement of the ICC.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 28, 2019, 07:57:31 PM

I would just ignore these rumors. The Bangladesh team will be leaving for India tomorrow, and as of now Shakib al Hassan remains as the captain of the squad. If he misses the tournament as a result of the differences with BCB, and Bangladesh performs poorly against India, then Nazmul Hassan will be the first person to get kicked out of the BCB.

BTW, the latest news is that the BCB CEO Nizamuddin Chowdhury has told the media that he would not take any legal action against Shakib al Hassan as long as he files a proper reply to the legal notice. His tone is much different from that of Nazmul Hassan, and gives an indication that the board may be looking for a compromise with the player on this issue.

I don't think BCB is entirely at fault here. I do blame them for the manner in which they handled this entire situation, but this does not mean that the players are completely innocent themselves. Shakib knew damn well what he was doing when he breached the contract.

Also, Tamim decided to stay back all of a sudden and other players could do the same even after the board agreed to their demands which is why both sides are at fault here which is why I mentioned that they need to resolve this asap before it gets any worse in the future.

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I would just ignore these rumors. The Bangladesh team will be leaving for India tomorrow, and as of now Shakib al Hassan remains as the captain of the squad. If he misses the tournament as a result of the differences with BCB, and Bangladesh performs poorly against India, then Nazmul Hassan will be the first person to get kicked out of the BCB.

BTW, the latest news is that the BCB CEO Nizamuddin Chowdhury has told the media that he would not take any legal action against Shakib al Hassan as long as he files a proper reply to the legal notice. His tone is much different from that of Nazmul Hassan, and gives an indication that the board may be looking for a compromise with the player on this issue.

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Quote from: Ayiranorea on October 28, 2019, 04:54:58 PM

It is a way to give pressure to the player and make him take responsibility. He is one that has helped Bangladesh win several matches.

Putting pressure to play better, I never heard of this strategy any where. Putting pressure on a player will never bring something good to the team. He is already in a lot of pressure I think because he had leaded the strike for 11 points someday ago.
I doubt Bangladesh will have much benefit even if the Indian teal is a total mess for me. A lot of inexperienced players.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 28, 2019, 08:31:51 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on October 28, 2019, 06:28:02 AM

Today there was a statement from Nazmul Hassan (president of the Bangladesh Cricket Board). He hinted that Shakib Al Hasan may miss the upcoming Indian tour. The team will be leaving in two days time, so I don't think that Shakib is left with many options. In case Shakib is left out of the squad, then the playing XI will be very much weakened. Already they are missing two big names (Mohammad Saifuddin and Tamim Iqbal).

It is just a statement just to put pressure on Shakib Al Hasan because if the Bangladesh cricket wanted to avoid him from the team they could have already done that but instead picking him in the team and then voicing their opinion that he could miss the tour does not make any sense other than making news headline and putting pressure on the player. If he is not in the team then it will create a big void in their performance because even with Shakib in the team there is no chance for Bangladesh.

It is a way to give pressure to the player and make him take responsibility. He is one that has helped Bangladesh win several matches. He also got good record against India compared to other players of the squad. Another thing India is strong to face any team, but India will have fear playing against Bangladesh. Once they won against India and that day was declared national holiday in Bangladesh which caused big criticism over India.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 28, 2019, 01:48:08 PM

They will probably retain him for the series against India after which they will let him go and focus on the legal stuff. Why do you think they will forgive him that easily after he breached the contract?

If the cricket board is to take any actions they will be taking it now rather than waiting for the series to end and if that is the case then they are willing to sort the case between Shakib Al Hasan and the cricket board as he is their best player in the team and his absence will have an impact on the team performance and even during the recent world cup we saw how Shakib Al Hasan performed as he was one of the leading all rounders in the entire tournament.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 28, 2019, 01:32:29 PM

If Bangladesh Cricket Board decide to leave him out of this series then it’ll backfire on them, as he’s an experienced player and the team will miss his presence. There’s no official word whether he’ll be excluded or not, but I’m hoping he’ll be forgiven and allowed to play in the upcoming series vs India. @SaShiRaJaVu I won’t underestimate Bangladesh as I have seen them perform well whenever they’re playing against team India.

They will probably retain him for the series against India after which they will let him go and focus on the legal stuff. Why do you think they will forgive him that easily after he breached the contract?

The president of the BCB himself is pretty pissed about this entire ordeal and he will definitely not let this slide so easily unless the entire nation causes an uproar forcing him to change his decision. I do hope he continues playing though especially since he is in the form of this life currently.

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