Topic: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] - page 1211. (Read 173601 times)

Basically Test cricket is true form of cricket which shows a team skill, but the current time is of making money in quick time and T20 is best form of cricket to make lot of money for the boards as well as for the players. Even from the viewers point of view, they do not have the time to spend the whole day watching the test or one day match.

Real Cricket or not this comparison only comes at play when spectators/players think T-20 is a real form of cricket and judge any player skills only basis of shorter format, which is very wrong. For example: Make a team of all Big T-20 specialist players who think they are great players and put them against any County or Ranji team. I can bet you local teams can beat the shit out of them in Real Cricket any day of the week.

For international adoption or eyeballs, ICC is trying to get cricket into the Olympics. That's why ICC granted T-20I status to all 104 members. For only this reason, T-20 is very important to world cricket. But I think that even T-20 Format is long for Olympics (its another debate). May be T-10 looks okay.


Its more of adopt or die situation for all Cricketing boards.

I will talk about BCCI perpective ;

1. India is very big country and has 35+ domestic teams + Under 23 +under 19 +Under 16 .
2. More than 10k professional cricketers (including retired) BCCI has to take care of their salary.
3. Pension plan for retired cricketers. here they are waiting for Pension Hike
4. No government help in regards of infrastructure. ( In England and Australia local gov takes care of it according to my knowledge, plz correct me if i am wrong)
5. BCCI organise 800+ matches in one year ( Test series + ODI series + T-20 series )

That's why BCCI needs regular flow of money. as you already know how ICC reduced the BCCI's share (around 200 million) recently.
 
Now about Promoting Test cricket Again India's perspective; Indian cricketers gives Test cricket highest priority. in last 2 years Virat, Bumrah, Shami skipped couple of ODI and T-20 series only because of Test Match. so its depends on players too.

We have to face some fact that now Test is no longer good entertainment for most peoples as many economical and social problems most of peoples cannot stay in stadium for many days to watch this so they prefer T20 as its need very less time which we can spend easily and can enjoy and ICC and no other Board can do any alternative for this so T20 Brand is going to be more popular in near future.

But people these days get much entertainments in T-20, at the end of the day, entertainment is the purpose of every sports. You can't watch test, you can only get updated with it, it doesn't serve the purpose of entertainment. ODI can only be watched if you are on holiday or it is after your works, still not possible to watch the full match. In the end, t20 is the only game which everyone can watch the full match.

The real problem here is that people does not get enough time to spend 5 days to get to the results in a test match and majority of them end up in a draw, five days of play and no result really sucks for any sporting event and only in cricket you will see that kind of result even after five days, this is a competitive world and people are struggling to make their income and they cannot spent the entire day watching cricket and that is the reason T20 is an instant classic as you will get to the results in less than 5 hours and not waste the entire day.

Haha, you want to eliminate real batsmen and real bowlers from the international cricket and introduce shadows to play ?  

You are right we need to promote Test and ODI but greediness never want to promote these formats because they have more revenue in T20 and our jokers can perform better in this format as they have better income in very less time like soccer even now ICC is also not able to do any work in this issue as powerful boards want more revenue and its belong to T20.

If T20 is not real cricket (which is not of-course) then how are we going to label T-10 and T-6 if they ever play it internationally. May be we will not see cricket then, we will see baseball or this kind (I don't know how they play baseball but seen them to hit the ball hard and run LOL, the ball don't even need to pitch :-P)

They can also kick out the bowlers. Instead they program those bowling matching with different variation and ask the batsman to hit.
They can also kick out batsman too. Create some kind of robotic hand and assemble it in the pitch. Set the bowling machine on the other side and let the robotic hand to play the balls. Better performed machine will win :-P

Seriously we need to promote Test cricket and ODI instead of T20 and other format.

@Spaffin Ofcourse Its sport, No one can deny this fact plus its mix-up with commercial spice. It's not a bad thing per se. But it's not real cricket in terms of Test Cricket for many reasons.

@JohnBitCo That's the only reason shorter format invented in the first place - For adding Excitement- because the majority of viewers don't have much time to invest in 5-day Cricket.

My "waste of time" comment was figure of speech.

@Indymoney Let's wait for some time, if T-10 or T-6 become popular, then BCCI will bring out something useful from it too for sure.

T10 is already in progressed so talking about T6 is nothing because we have already one tournament Super Sixer in Hong Kong so cricket is already very good and entertaining but now time for bringing some good and positive things because peoples need tough matches for entertainment but few teams need time for this standard.

I believe that T20 is the most exciting form of cricket.  No matter which board is utilizing if for their own benefit / business and which cricket board thinks it's a waste of time, the important thing is that people get intense entertainment from this form of cricket and it generates a lot of revenue.

Maybe we see more smaller version like T10 and T6 in near future.

One way or another, for some of the actors, this is really a sport, according to someone it perceives as a good business.  Even we are looking at cricket as an opportunity to make a productive bet.

T-20 is not real cricket but its a master business plan which BCCI hijacked from ECB ( they thought its waste of time and has no value lol ) where BCCI earns money so that they can fill enough gas to survive. For spectators its 2 months festival, in between all of this commercial event players do play some cricket too

LoL..Seriously    
Then why they play two months of IPL every year and it is the biggest T20 tournament held in India.

I didn't use this word first

And it looks like @ Vishnu.Reang went overboard when he said that Pakistan is going to struggle in World Cup qualifiers. They have shitload amount of flows just like any other team in the world, but they are not that bad as well.

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TBH India don't take T-20 very seriously and Indians sucks at it tbh, ICC ranking in shorter format is shit for India. they still follow traditional mindset when it comes to T-20.

I guess T-20 world cup record is 5-0, right?    Still i think Pakistan can beat India in T-20 format.

To tell you truth, they were never well prepared for the WC and even before the world cup they had a series loss white wash with England and South Africa (I guess). They had straight  13 ODI loses before they win the next ODI in this World cup. They started badly in WC too but in the end still manage to end up at 5th when most of us weren't even expecting that too.
I too agree that there need to be strategically changes in the structure of the cricket in Pakistan, to utilize the talent well.




Well, ODI worldcup is still 4 years away. Before that we have T20 world cup next year and we will again test our shadows  

Real players LOL

^ Real player or Shadow. they are not going to win against India in 50-50 World Cup  okay that's a cheeky comment.

I hope that the Pakistani team breaks this cycle in the next World Cup for the sake of the current generation who didn't get to see any win against India in the World Cup.

Now waiting for @Raja's comment

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Agree overall; Having said that. I don't think Pakistan lack the talent pool in the country. All comes down to leadership in PCB and Team. If players and management can avoid petty politics and work on First-class cricket, then pak team can do wonder in World Cricket

Bring in on the table! Who stopped them?

Be real bud. I am not against Pakistan team. I wish them to do well as well. Although I am not from Pakistan nor from India but somewhere far from these two countries. Thing is I love cricket hence I follow these country teams.

I had some expectation from them and they failed. Having patriotism does not mean that you do not speak for the truth. If you accept the truth and work for it to improve your own team then may be some day the scenario will change.

Yeah i am suffering from "Own country weakness"   or you can call it Patriotism in modern language. 



The shadows are taking the Pakistani team close to the Semi, what will the team be like if the real players started showing the talent .