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Quote from: Patrol69 on October 02, 2023, 08:44:41 AM

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Every warm-up match had been interesting to watch due to the high scoring. In today's match Williamson tossed the coin in style and soon after winning the toss he nodded the head and took batting. It means they've already planned whether to go with batting/bowling on winning the toss. Same as what they had planned, things are working in favour of New Zealand team.

Weather conditions disturbed the match, yet everything is on time. Close to 350 runs can b expected as New Zealand have reached 243/3 in 40 overs. New player Chapman on the crease is now waiting for another fresh batsman from the pavilion.

New Zealand's innings stopped at 321 runs against South Africa. If New Zealand could have continued the way they started in the end, the score would have crossed 350 plus, but they were not very aggressive towards the end against the South African bowlers. I wouldn't say the South African bowlers bowled very well today, they picked up a wicket early in the game but then they didn't pick up wickets for a long time, due to overheating two players got off the field with good runs for the team.

South Africa took a total of six wickets against New Zealand and managed to pick up five of them in the last over which led to New Zealand's first innings total of 321 otherwise the first innings total could have been bigger.

New Zealand's run-scoring after the rain has increased, with South Africa likely to win by 321 runs. South Africa's bowlers were not in good bowling form from the start as they took only one wicket in the moments before the rain, so they could not put New Zealand under pressure. However, after the rains, South Africa's bowlers improved their bowling performance a bit, due to which they were able to take 6 wickets later, but today's match was an aggressive game between the two teams. However, South Africa are batting at the moment, they must score 322 runs to win today's match, which is a very tough task. However, South Africa were in a bit of embarrassment early on losing their wicket in the first over, but if they can hold on to the game at this point, they can reach the target set by New Zealand. South Africa now needs to score 291 runs from 258 balls to reach the target of victory, if no wickets fall then surely South Africa can reach this stage.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on October 02, 2023, 08:16:57 AM

However, it looks like we will see a result only in the NZ match while the Bangladesh match will probably get abandoned.

Yeh it's true Bangladesh match is almost washed by rain because during first innings of Bangladesh batting rain interrupt and still ongoing, if match doesn't start within few hours then it will be another abondund match right before world cup. I think such rain interruption again and again really damage entire competition.
Anyway let's have a look on score card of NewZeland match against South Africa where NewZeland opener scored a decent runs byself and set a stage from upcoming rest of batters and thus due to some contribution from middle order they able to scored a 300+ target which they can easily defend through thier bowling Lineup, while opponent bowler like M. Jansen and Ngidi show some magic and took decent number of wickets throughout the match

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Quote from: BALIK on October 02, 2023, 07:53:29 AM

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Every warm-up match had been interesting to watch due to the high scoring. In today's match Williamson tossed the coin in style and soon after winning the toss he nodded the head and took batting. It means they've already planned whether to go with batting/bowling on winning the toss. Same as what they had planned, things are working in favour of New Zealand team.

Weather conditions disturbed the match, yet everything is on time. Close to 350 runs can b expected as New Zealand have reached 243/3 in 40 overs. New player Chapman on the crease is now waiting for another fresh batsman from the pavilion.

you are right We see high scores in almost every warm-up match. But I doubt we will see such high scores in the World Cup. I am saying this because in every warm-up match the teams are using all the bowlers in their squad. And so the bowlers are giving a lot of runs. The team and bowlers aim to understand pitch conditions. This is why the bowlers are giving away a lot of runs. But if we see such big scores in the World Cup too, the matches will become very exciting.

Most of the warm-up matches were delayed due to rain. This worries me. If we see this in the World Cup matches as well, it will adversely affect the performance of almost every team.

The complete squad is being used and the other reason for every matches to be high scoring is the pressure free performance. As these are warm-up matches, the win/loss doesn't affect the teams moving to the next levels. This is being used to just understand the pitch conditions as well as have a self analysis of their own teams.

This being the 7^th warm-up match before the start of world cup. Among the seven matches, 3 matches have ended with no result due to rain. One of the match played today between England and Bangladesh have been suspended due to rain. We don't know whether this will continue or not. In such situation the rain is a big problem, than delay matches are getting cancelled. This situation is very bad for World Cup Matches.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on October 02, 2023, 07:45:10 AM

Every warm-up match had been interesting to watch due to the high scoring. In today's match Williamson tossed the coin in style and soon after winning the toss he nodded the head and took batting. It means they've already planned whether to go with batting/bowling on winning the toss. Same as what they had planned, things are working in favour of New Zealand team.

Weather conditions disturbed the match, yet everything is on time. Close to 350 runs can b expected as New Zealand have reached 243/3 in 40 overs. New player Chapman on the crease is now waiting for another fresh batsman from the pavilion.

New Zealand's innings stopped at 321 runs against South Africa. If New Zealand could have continued the way they started in the end, the score would have crossed 350 plus, but they were not very aggressive towards the end against the South African bowlers. I wouldn't say the South African bowlers bowled very well today, they picked up a wicket early in the game but then they didn't pick up wickets for a long time, due to overheating two players got off the field with good runs for the team.

South Africa took a total of six wickets against New Zealand and managed to pick up five of them in the last over which led to New Zealand's first innings total of 321 otherwise the first innings total could have been bigger.

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New Zealand is decimating South Africa at the moment while Bangladesh is getting wrecked by England. All South Bowlers except Keshav, Ngidi and Jansen were pretty mediocre while Topley, Wood and Rashid bowled well.

However, it looks like we will see a result only in the NZ match while the Bangladesh match will probably get abandoned.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on October 02, 2023, 07:45:10 AM

Every warm-up match had been interesting to watch due to the high scoring. In today's match Williamson tossed the coin in style and soon after winning the toss he nodded the head and took batting. It means they've already planned whether to go with batting/bowling on winning the toss. Same as what they had planned, things are working in favour of New Zealand team.

Weather conditions disturbed the match, yet everything is on time. Close to 350 runs can b expected as New Zealand have reached 243/3 in 40 overs. New player Chapman on the crease is now waiting for another fresh batsman from the pavilion.

you are right We see high scores in almost every warm-up match. But I doubt we will see such high scores in the World Cup. I am saying this because in every warm-up match the teams are using all the bowlers in their squad. And so the bowlers are giving a lot of runs. The team and bowlers aim to understand pitch conditions. This is why the bowlers are giving away a lot of runs. But if we see such big scores in the World Cup too, the matches will become very exciting.

Most of the warm-up matches were delayed due to rain. This worries me. If we see this in the World Cup matches as well, it will adversely affect the performance of almost every team.

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Every warm-up match had been interesting to watch due to the high scoring. In today's match Williamson tossed the coin in style and soon after winning the toss he nodded the head and took batting. It means they've already planned whether to go with batting/bowling on winning the toss. Same as what they had planned, things are working in favour of New Zealand team.

Weather conditions disturbed the match, yet everything is on time. Close to 350 runs can b expected as New Zealand have reached 243/3 in 40 overs. New player Chapman on the crease is now waiting for another fresh batsman from the pavilion.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 02, 2023, 06:55:41 AM

New Zealand vs South Africa, 7th Warm-up game New Zealand are batting in the first innings, and they scored 171 runs in 29 overs with the loss of 1 wicket. At the moment the game is stopped due to rain, otherwise the New Zealand batsmen could have scored a lot of runs by chatting brilliantly. Moreover, two New Zealand batsmen got retd hurt today, Kane Williamson and Devon Conway both scored good runs. However, today's match was interrupted due to rain due to which both the teams are facing problems. The match will be suspended until the weather changes, with rain threatening the match.

In ICC World Cup Warm up series mostly matches interrupted due to rain and those matches overed without any result and was not see their performances. But New Zealand vs South Africa 7th match now continued and at this moment New Zealand bat performance brilliant. They scored 229 runs in 36.4 overs and lost only 1 wickets. Now current batsman at the pitch is T.Latham and G.Phillips. He build up good batting partnership and if they continue their partnership then new Zealand will set a great target for South Africa almost 350 runs. This target will difficult to chase down for South Africa. Sad for both batsman D.Conway and K.Williamson their performance was commendable and both was too close their century and half century.

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As per the weather information, Bangladesh vs England match and New Zealand vs South Africa match are likely to be abandoned due to rain. Meteorologists have said that with intermittent rains, there may be downpours in the region, so there are fears about these two warm-up matches. If this match between Bangladesh and England is abandoned due to rain, England will miss two warm-up matches as their first match against India has already been abandoned due to rain.
On the other hand, if the match between South Africa and New Zealand is abandoned due to rain, South Africa will miss out on playing two warm-up matches as they were unable to field in the first match against Afghanistan due to rain.
Even if the match is not abandoned due to rain, it is more likely to be played in fewer overs.

Second match is also started between England and Bangladesh in which Bangladesh scored 153 runs in overs of 30 and 5 players are out. If Bangladesh give the target of 250 run then match will be tough for both the teams. The team of England is strong but spinning of Bangladesh is very good.

Bangladesh vs England match is delayed for rain, if match will start i think BD can be all out today because ENG is very strong team comparing with BD, they already lost 5 wickets in 30 overs, but i believe if BD can play 50 overs their target will be 250-270 although it will not be hard target for the England team i think. So today this warm-up match win probability is 90% for ENG.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on October 02, 2023, 06:39:22 AM

Bangladesh lost patience in this match and started batting today. Because between the opening two batsmen, Liton Das made a small run and left the field. Currently Mushfiqur Rahim and Nazmul Hasan Shanto are two quality and experienced batsmen in Bangladesh squad but they played very badly today. Bangladesh supporters had a lot of hope to collect enough runs from the bat of these two but it was not possible in any way. Because the England team's bowling line is very strong due to which Bangladesh's experienced batsmen cannot stay patiently on the field for a long time. However, Mahmudullah Riyad and Mehdi Hasan Miraj are standing till now, if these two batsmen can survive then it is definitely not possible to collect some good runs.

In the second warm-up match between Bangladesh vs England, Bangladesh won the toss and elected to bat first. The two opening batsmen started well in the last match but these two openers could not start well against England. In the third over, Liton Das returned to the pavilion with a catch to the wicketkeeper. Later, England's bowlers were able to pick up several more wickets against Bangladesh. At the moment the match between Bangladesh and England is stopped due to rain, before the rain Bangladesh collected 153 runs for 5 wickets where the game ended in 30 overs. Rain was forecast beforehand and the pitch continued to rain before the 30 overs were played as predicted. The game will start again after the rain ends.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 02, 2023, 06:55:41 AM

New Zealand vs South Africa, 7th Warm-up game New Zealand are batting in the first innings, and they scored 171 runs in 29 overs with the loss of 1 wicket. At the moment the game is stopped due to rain, otherwise the New Zealand batsmen could have scored a lot of runs by chatting brilliantly. Moreover, two New Zealand batsmen got retd hurt today, Kane Williamson and Devon Conway both scored good runs. However, today's match was interrupted due to rain due to which both the teams are facing problems. The match will be suspended until the weather changes, with rain threatening the match.

New Zealand batsmen are playing well. This team is in good rhythm. They have the potential to do well in this World Cup. New Zealand collected 220 runs losing only 1 wicket. Although they lost 1 wicket, four batsmen of the squad batted. Williamson and Conway are now in the dressing room due to retired hurt. Conway scored 78 and Williamson scored 37 runs. We are not seeing good bowling from the South African bowlers. They are not able to pick up wickets. The South African captain used 9 of his bowlers. No other bowler except Lungi Ngidi was in control. There is a possibility of South Africa falling behind due to bowling weakness in this World Cup.

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New Zealand vs South Africa, 7th Warm-up game New Zealand are batting in the first innings, and they scored 171 runs in 29 overs with the loss of 1 wicket. At the moment the game is stopped due to rain, otherwise the New Zealand batsmen could have scored a lot of runs by chatting brilliantly. Moreover, two New Zealand batsmen got retd hurt today, Kane Williamson and Devon Conway both scored good runs. However, today's match was interrupted due to rain due to which both the teams are facing problems. The match will be suspended until the weather changes, with rain threatening the match.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on October 02, 2023, 01:57:54 AM

As per the weather information, Bangladesh vs England match and New Zealand vs South Africa match are likely to be abandoned due to rain. Meteorologists have said that with intermittent rains, there may be downpours in the region, so there are fears about these two warm-up matches. If this match between Bangladesh and England is abandoned due to rain, England will miss two warm-up matches as their first match against India has already been abandoned due to rain.
On the other hand, if the match between South Africa and New Zealand is abandoned due to rain, South Africa will miss out on playing two warm-up matches as they were unable to field in the first match against Afghanistan due to rain.
Even if the match is not abandoned due to rain, it is more likely to be played in fewer overs.

Yes there are two matches but the match between new Zealand and Africa is stop due to rain. The condition of march is such that New Zealand has 171 runs and a single player is out.

Devon Conway and Kane Walliamson has left batting and during batting Devon scored 78 and Williamson gain 37 runs. If rain does not stop then this match have no results at all.

Second match is also started between England and Bangladesh in which Bangladesh scored 153 runs in overs of 30 and 5 players are out. If Bangladesh give the target of 250 run then match will be tough for both the teams. The team of England is strong but spinning of Bangladesh is very good.

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Bangladesh lost patience in this match and started batting today. Because between the opening two batsmen, Liton Das made a small run and left the field. Currently Mushfiqur Rahim and Nazmul Hasan Shanto are two quality and experienced batsmen in Bangladesh squad but they played very badly today. Bangladesh supporters had a lot of hope to collect enough runs from the bat of these two but it was not possible in any way. Because the England team's bowling line is very strong due to which Bangladesh's experienced batsmen cannot stay patiently on the field for a long time. However, Mahmudullah Riyad and Mehdi Hasan Miraj are standing till now, if these two batsmen can survive then it is definitely not possible to collect some good runs.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 01, 2023, 10:00:03 PM

We have two world cup warmup matches scheduled for today. Bangladesh will take on England, at the Barsapara Cricket Stadium in Guwahati. And in the second match New Zealand will be playing against South Africa at the Greenfield International Stadium in Thiruvananthapuram. I am not sure about the weather at Guwahati, but I heard that it is raining non-stop at Trivandrum. So the second match may get washed out. India's final warmup match is scheduled for tomorrow, at Trivandrum against Netherlands. Once again, this match is under the threat of rain interruption.

As per the weather information, Bangladesh vs England match and New Zealand vs South Africa match are likely to be abandoned due to rain. Meteorologists have said that with intermittent rains, there may be downpours in the region, so there are fears about these two warm-up matches. If this match between Bangladesh and England is abandoned due to rain, England will miss two warm-up matches as their first match against India has already been abandoned due to rain.
On the other hand, if the match between South Africa and New Zealand is abandoned due to rain, South Africa will miss out on playing two warm-up matches as they were unable to field in the first match against Afghanistan due to rain.
Even if the match is not abandoned due to rain, it is more likely to be played in fewer overs.

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This is helpful in predicting weather forecasts for the World Cup to some extent or at least will give a general trend about the upcoming weather. Thank you.

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 01, 2023, 10:00:03 PM

We have two world cup warmup matches scheduled for today. Bangladesh will take on England, at the Barsapara Cricket Stadium in Guwahati. And in the second match New Zealand will be playing against South Africa at the Greenfield International Stadium in Thiruvananthapuram. I am not sure about the weather at Guwahati, but I heard that it is raining non-stop at Trivandrum. So the second match may get washed out. India's final warmup match is scheduled for tomorrow, at Trivandrum against Netherlands. Once again, this match is under the threat of rain interruption.

Rain has been significantly affecting the cricket matches for the past month or two, and this time, it's the World Cup. Hopefully, there will be no rain in today's warmup games, and we will see some action.

Quote from: ThemePen on October 02, 2023, 01:03:42 AM

In the first match which you have mentioned. Bangladesh vs England. In my point of view England is more strong as compare to Bangladesh and England will win this match but Bangladesh can give a tuogh time to England.

On paper, England is a very strong team, but in subcontinent conditions, you cannot keep Bangladesh out of the contest. The way BAN played in the last match, we might see an upset in the warmup matches.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 01, 2023, 10:00:03 PM

We have two world cup warmup matches scheduled for today. Bangladesh will take on England, at the Barsapara Cricket Stadium in Guwahati. And in the second match New Zealand will be playing against South Africa at the Greenfield International Stadium in Thiruvananthapuram. I am not sure about the weather at Guwahati, but I heard that it is raining non-stop at Trivandrum. So the second match may get washed out. India's final warmup match is scheduled for tomorrow, at Trivandrum against Netherlands. Once again, this match is under the threat of rain interruption.

In the first match which you have mentioned. Bangladesh vs England. In my point of view England is more strong as compare to Bangladesh and England will win this match but Bangladesh can give a tuogh time to England.

And the second match, as you said, I think they will not play because if we see the previous two matches which already affected due to rain. And may be today we will see that rain will interfere again. Not sure but it can.

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We have two world cup warmup matches scheduled for today. Bangladesh will take on England, at the Barsapara Cricket Stadium in Guwahati. And in the second match New Zealand will be playing against South Africa at the Greenfield International Stadium in Thiruvananthapuram. I am not sure about the weather at Guwahati, but I heard that it is raining non-stop at Trivandrum. So the second match may get washed out. India's final warmup match is scheduled for tomorrow, at Trivandrum against Netherlands. Once again, this match is under the threat of rain interruption.

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The match ended without any result. Netherlands is no way a team that can beat Australia in ODI contest. Netherlands have lost this game if its evaluated by DLS Method. There were only two Netherlands batsmen that were able to make it to double figures i.e. Colin Ackermann and Scott Edwards. From this performance it looks very clear that Netherlands is there to give 2 points to every team.

Netherlands are 84 runs in lost of 6 wickets in 14.2 Overs while chasing 167 runs in 23 overs. Mitchell Starc took a hat-trick against the Netherlands in the warm-up match. Netherlands very poor performance three bastmen gone for duck Max Dowd is out for duck, Wesley Barresi also score zero and Bas De Leede Score 0 at 1 ball. What a bowling performance by Australia especially Mitchell Starc picked up 3 wickets in just 3 over and Sean Abbott also bowling well picked up 1 wicket. Netherlands bastmen Colin Ackermann batting well score 31 runs unbeaten in 37 balls and Scott Edwards score 14 runs in just 10 balls.

Australia is strong posting to win this match but Rain intercepted and match was washed out. Three out of 5 warm-up matches so far have been interrupted by rain in ICC World Cup 2023. First Sirlinka and Afghanistan match called off due to Rain, India vs England and Australia vs Netherland are also washed out due to Rain. I though ICC should move the World Cup to the United Emirates because it is rainy season in India. Entire World Cup should be washed out due to rain wrong time chosen for World Cup in India. I think world cup will be scheduled in November or December month. But i hope Rain will not interpreted futher matches of World Cup in India.

If a full innings had been played, Australia would have almost certainly won. Because they have the best bowlers and they are also good at fielding. It can be said that Australia's position is after India in cricket in this time especially in terms of performance. However, Australia is currently ranked 3rd. Although Pakistan is leading in terms of points but there are many criticisms in the cricket circles about how far they can ahead in this World Cup, their consistency is questionable.
Netherlands in 14th place in ranking who had almost a 99 percent chance of losing against Australia. The Australian team will get another chance against Pakistan on October 3. Hopefully they will be able to get an early idea of the team's performance before the World Cup.

Australia's performance against Netherlands was not satisfactory. Australia is a very strong team. And this time they will fight to become world champions. The team is in good form. Australia has given descent target of 167. But I am not satisfied with Australia's performance as Australia lost 7 wickets after batting only 23 overs. Netherlands bowlers are not experienced. How will Australia counter the bowlers of Pakistan and India if they bat so badly against the Netherlands? I have a lot of doubts whether Australia will be able to perform well in this World Cup. Australia's performance is erratic. If the performance is not consistent, it is almost impossible to become champions.

Australia scoring just 166 runs and losing 7 wickets is the reason why majority say that the performance from Australia team is not satisfactory. Maybe this is true on different stats, according to me they've done well according to the situation. If it is a T20 match, then we could say they're not doing well. Here it is an ODI and the overs have been reduced due to rain interruption. The calculations were completely different, even in this situation they had scored at a runrate around 7.2 per over. This is good enough for a team. I don't say Netherlands is bad, they have improved much and I expect consistency with them in their upcoming matches. Only then the real ability could be understood. Anyhow the rain is going to be a big problem throughout the ODI World Cup.

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The match ended without any result. Netherlands is no way a team that can beat Australia in ODI contest. Netherlands have lost this game if its evaluated by DLS Method. There were only two Netherlands batsmen that were able to make it to double figures i.e. Colin Ackermann and Scott Edwards. From this performance it looks very clear that Netherlands is there to give 2 points to every team.

Netherlands are 84 runs in lost of 6 wickets in 14.2 Overs while chasing 167 runs in 23 overs. Mitchell Starc took a hat-trick against the Netherlands in the warm-up match. Netherlands very poor performance three bastmen gone for duck Max Dowd is out for duck, Wesley Barresi also score zero and Bas De Leede Score 0 at 1 ball. What a bowling performance by Australia especially Mitchell Starc picked up 3 wickets in just 3 over and Sean Abbott also bowling well picked up 1 wicket. Netherlands bastmen Colin Ackermann batting well score 31 runs unbeaten in 37 balls and Scott Edwards score 14 runs in just 10 balls.

Australia is strong posting to win this match but Rain intercepted and match was washed out. Three out of 5 warm-up matches so far have been interrupted by rain in ICC World Cup 2023. First Sirlinka and Afghanistan match called off due to Rain, India vs England and Australia vs Netherland are also washed out due to Rain. I though ICC should move the World Cup to the United Emirates because it is rainy season in India. Entire World Cup should be washed out due to rain wrong time chosen for World Cup in India. I think world cup will be scheduled in November or December month. But i hope Rain will not interpreted futher matches of World Cup in India.

If a full innings had been played, Australia would have almost certainly won. Because they have the best bowlers and they are also good at fielding. It can be said that Australia's position is after India in cricket in this time especially in terms of performance. However, Australia is currently ranked 3rd. Although Pakistan is leading in terms of points but there are many criticisms in the cricket circles about how far they can ahead in this World Cup, their consistency is questionable.
Netherlands in 14th place in ranking who had almost a 99 percent chance of losing against Australia. The Australian team will get another chance against Pakistan on October 3. Hopefully they will be able to get an early idea of the team's performance before the World Cup.

Australia's performance against Netherlands was not satisfactory. Australia is a very strong team. And this time they will fight to become world champions. The team is in good form. Australia has given descent target of 167. But I am not satisfied with Australia's performance as Australia lost 7 wickets after batting only 23 overs. Netherlands bowlers are not experienced. How will Australia counter the bowlers of Pakistan and India if they bat so badly against the Netherlands? I have a lot of doubts whether Australia will be able to perform well in this World Cup. Australia's performance is erratic. If the performance is not consistent, it is almost impossible to become champions.

If Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummings were dropped, Australia fielded only 6 professional batsmen against the Netherlands. I'm thinking they may have fielded 6 professional batsmen against the Netherlands, but will they do the same against other teams?
Like you, I am a bit surprised to see such poor batting from Australia. But we have to praise the Dutch bowlers for bowling well. Even before watching the match against Australia, I had no idea that the Netherlands bowlers could bowl so well. Let the Netherlands survive in cricket and may they become a strong team because European teams will really enhance the beauty of cricket.

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