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Now after every two months, the Pakistan team lost the matches against the small teams, especially after 2022, they are affording back to back losses against every single team and their form is not coming back.

Yes, sometimes they performed well and won those games that we can't predict as some days before they gave defeat to Australia in Australia after many years that was a big achievement but at the same time, if some players were gone from the team then the other players cannot do anything that is such a big disaster. Hopeful for the next game that will be played today in Bulawayo.
Yes that is right Pakistan cricket team has been having tough time lately. They keep losing to smaller teams every two months since 2022 like you said. This is worrying for fans and critics. Sometimes they surprise us with big win like when they beat Australia in Australia after long time. But overall team has not been playing well. They rely too much on few key players. When these players are not playing rest of team struggles. I hope team will do better in their next game today in Bulawayo. And I think PCB should focus new players because current players are not doing well.
Pakistan's players have not been able to perform consistently at the moment which has resulted in them being badly beaten in the first ODI by a weak Zimbabwe. Many of the batsmen in the Pakistan team are experienced batsmen such as Rizwan, Abdullah Shafique, Saim Ayub, Agha Salman and some other batsmen. Despite being an experienced batsman, they cannot perform regularly, Mohammad Rizwan has been performing poorly for several series and still his performance is not improving.

Today again Pakistan team will face Zimbabwe in the second ODI match. This match is most important for Pakistan cricket team because if they unfortunately lose today's match against Zimbabwe then they will lose the series against Zimbabwe.
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Now after every two months, the Pakistan team lost the matches against the small teams, especially after 2022, they are affording back to back losses against every single team and their form is not coming back.

Yes, sometimes they performed well and won those games that we can't predict as some days before they gave defeat to Australia in Australia after many years that was a big achievement but at the same time, if some players were gone from the team then the other players cannot do anything that is such a big disaster. Hopeful for the next game that will be played today in Bulawayo.
Yes that is right Pakistan cricket team has been having tough time lately. They keep losing to smaller teams every two months since 2022 like you said. This is worrying for fans and critics. Sometimes they surprise us with big win like when they beat Australia in Australia after long time. But overall team has not been playing well. They rely too much on few key players. When these players are not playing rest of team struggles. I hope team will do better in their next game today in Bulawayo. And I think PCB should focus new players because current players are not doing well.
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Pakistan didn't loss the match for their slow run rate actually. The main reason for their loss was the fall of 6 wickets within 60 runs only. Pakistan has sent a weak squad in Zimbabwe to play the series. I won't be surprised if Pakistan loss this ODI series against Zimbabwe. Pakistan would have scored more runs in the first 21 overs if their batting line-up didn't collapse like that.

Now after every two months, the Pakistan team lost the matches against the small teams, especially after 2022, they are affording back to back losses against every single team and their form is not coming back.

Yes, sometimes they performed well and won those games that we can't predict as some days before they gave defeat to Australia in Australia after many years that was a big achievement but at the same time, if some players were gone from the team then the other players cannot do anything that is such a big disaster. Hopeful for the next game that will be played today in Bulawayo.
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Yes, I also regret Pakistan's defeat because they could have easily won this match.  But due to DLS, Zimbabwe will win the match.  Zimbabwe had scored more runs in the first 21 overs and Pakistan's pace was too slow due to which they could score only 60 runs.
Pakistan didn't loss the match for their slow run rate actually. The main reason for their loss was the fall of 6 wickets within 60 runs only. Pakistan has sent a weak squad in Zimbabwe to play the series. I won't be surprised if Pakistan loss this ODI series against Zimbabwe. Pakistan would have scored more runs in the first 21 overs if their batting line-up didn't collapse like that.
The Pakistan team has never thought that they would experience this kind of loss. If this match is against any of the top teams, then the Pakistan team might have chosen to bat first after winning the toss. In this match, out of confidence after winning the toss, they choose to bowl first. Bowling is good, and 205 is not a big score for them. However, the over reduction served as a support for the Zimbabwe team. They well utilised the opportunity and took wickets continuously. Maybe if the complete match had taken place, the Pakistan team might've played their regular game and won the match. For Zimbabwe, the performance from Nagarva is appreciable, because without his scoring from the bottom, Zimbabwe couldn't have crossed 200+ runs.
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Pakistan unable to develop themselves and suffering from victory for long time. They lost many recent matches against their opponents team but it's hard to believe, developing team like Zimbabwe defeated Pakistan. Although I don't neglect any team but people including me use to believe that, atleast Pakistan is stronger than Zimbabwe. But Zimbabwe proved everyone wrong. They made 205 runs in their 1st ODI where their players did avarage performance. Faisal Akram and Agha Salman took 3 wickets each. As a response, Pakistan supposed to be confident enough but when Zimbabwe bowlers started showing their batting skill, Pakistan batting performance turned into poor and suffering to make runs. Only 60-6 runs was scored by them and Zimbabwe won by 80 runs (DLS method). Well many unexpected things already happened in cricket history which isn't new. Tomorrow there will be 2nd ODI match between Zimbabwe and Pakistan. If Zimbabwe really developed themselves then they'll win the match again. Although i guess, Pakistan already took their defeat seriously and Tomorrow they'll handle Zimbabwe more seriously with their best effort. Let's see
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You are wrong to think that no team loses a match due to frustration. Note well that Pakistan fielded a weak team against Zimbabwe due to which they did not bat well in that match. Did you not see this Pakistan team beat Australia a few days ago. So perhaps there should be no doubt that Pakistan played a weak team against Zimbabwe which resulted in their defeat in that match.Now it remains to be seen how well Pakistan can perform in the second ODI against Zimbabwe, the second ODI between them starts tomorrow.

The team Zimbabwe was performing now good against the team Pakistan,now it look like the Vintage team Zimbabwe.During 1980,the team Zimbabwe was in very good form and defeated many of the team.But in the recent past,the team and the player game was totally degraded from the past.This game doesn’t mean the team Pakistan in the very bad form because if was defeated in the one day internationals by the less form team which doesn’t Qualified to the World Cup matches.Hope this win of Zimbabwe will help the future of Zimbabwe players in the upcoming World Cup.
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The game of Pakistan team has not changed but their frustration still remains due to which they did not win the match against Zimbabwe. Although the batting performance of Pakistan team has deteriorated a lot, they have not improved and their confidence may have been lost. Pakistan team lost the match against a team like Zimbabwe, it was really unbelievable that a strong team like Pakistan would lose. Pakistan team has not been playing very well for the last few matches, although they played well against Australia, they did not play well at all in the first match against Zimbabwe. However, I think Pakistan team will definitely have to play harder against Zimbabwe in the next matches and improve their game, besides they will have to strengthen their game and regain their confidence to win the series.
Again we see upset moment and Pakistan team lost 1 st odi game by Zimbabwe team. Pakistan team always unpredictable and there is not doubt in this statement. In their past series with Australia team, I think that Pakistan team did not win single game before start of series but they did not win single game but they won series by leading 2 wins. But in 1 st odi GA e with Zimbabwe they showed very poor effort in batting. In bowling, they stopped Zimbabwe Batsman for 208 runs and this target was not big in ODI and easy to chase it. Raza made great progress from Zimbabwe side and he made 39 runs in 56 balls and hitted six 4s and in bowling, he took down 2 wickets in 3 overs. Pakistan team lost game by 80 runs in DLS method and this was the big lost but Pakistan team still have a chance to bounce back in series just like in past series.
Pakistan's performance against Zimbabwe is perhaps the reason why Pakistan is called an unpredictable team. If the performance is not good, it does not matter whether it is a small team or a big team, they will lose to any team. This is a big problem of the Pakistan team, which the team has not been able to solve properly even after a long time. If Pakistan's opening batsmen cannot bat well, then it is difficult to expect to win that match. Once their wickets fall, then they keep losing wickets in series. Saim Ayub and Abdullah Shafique could not start well. Those who came after them could not stay there either, which is why they had to lose against the Zimbabwe team. Due to the rain interruption, they lost by a big margin even in the DLS method. With such a performance from Pakistan, how can we expect anything good in a big tournament? There is a need to change the team quickly and should be included good cricketers.
Yes ,you are right but that kind of performance of Pak team is due to bad decisions of cricket board and they are not picking good players. We always see that pak team top order is not playing quality cricket  and that is big cause of lose in last match. Pak team players have to make routine and they should work hard but we are not watching good performance from that team. Zimbabwe team did not give good target but after that they performed well in bowling and they made match one sided and Pak team were helpless. But now the question is when Pak cricket will produce players like Younus Khan and Shahid Afridi or we should not expect any good thing from Pak team. That is choice of cricket board.
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The game of Pakistan team has not changed but their frustration still remains due to which they did not win the match against Zimbabwe. Although the batting performance of Pakistan team has deteriorated a lot, they have not improved and their confidence may have been lost. Pakistan team lost the match against a team like Zimbabwe, it was really unbelievable that a strong team like Pakistan would lose. Pakistan team has not been playing very well for the last few matches, although they played well against Australia, they did not play well at all in the first match against Zimbabwe. However, I think Pakistan team will definitely have to play harder against Zimbabwe in the next matches and improve their game, besides they will have to strengthen their game and regain their confidence to win the series.
You are wrong to think that no team loses a match due to frustration. Note well that Pakistan fielded a weak team against Zimbabwe due to which they did not bat well in that match. Did you not see this Pakistan team beat Australia a few days ago. So perhaps there should be no doubt that Pakistan played a weak team against Zimbabwe which resulted in their defeat in that match.Now it remains to be seen how well Pakistan can perform in the second ODI against Zimbabwe, the second ODI between them starts tomorrow.
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Unfortunately, today's desired match had to be ended by DLS method. Today's match was really starting to take shape as a great match. But unfortunately, the rain attacked the match after 21 overs of the second innings. Due to the rain attack, we could not enjoy the entire match. However, from the extent to which we were able to enjoy today's match, it is somewhat assumed that the Zimbabwe team has improved a little. Although the Zimbabwe team could not make much of an advantage in batting in today's match, they surprised the cricket fans with a great performance on the bowling side. Congratulations to the Zimbabwe team for giving cricket fans something great in today's first match of the ODI series.
Yes, I also regret Pakistan's defeat because they could have easily won this match.  But due to DLS, Zimbabwe will win the match.  Zimbabwe had scored more runs in the first 21 overs and Pakistan's pace was too slow due to which they could score only 60 runs.  Although Zimbabwe did not set a big target which Pakistan could have achieved in 20 overs as they would have played this match as a T20.  Congratulations to Zimbabwe for this no-win, they should also play well as they didn't play that well as they only set a target of 205 despite having a 50 over innings.  Pakistan's bowling was quite good but their batting is not so much. If they improve it, they can definitely become a strong team and they can win every match.
To be honest, before start this competition I had some doubts and fears that something unexpected might happen in first match as everyone was saying that it would be quite simple task for Pakistan team to win this one day competition against Zimbabwe and everyone believed that Zimbabwe team is weak as compare to Pakistan squad but Zimbabwe squad prove all of us wrong by defeating Pakistan squad very badly. Next second one day match will start tomorrow and in first match, Zimbabwe squad did not display such strong performance and their scores 205 was low quality. Pakistan squad bowlers did great job in bowling and restricted batters of Zimbabwe squad to such weak scores. But their bad performance in batting Inning, yesterday they faced bad defeat with massive difference scores of 80. Abdullah Shafique and Saim Ayub both are nice batters and came crease as starter but both disappointed their fans and squad by delivering shit performance.
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Yes, I also regret Pakistan's defeat because they could have easily won this match.  But due to DLS, Zimbabwe will win the match.  Zimbabwe had scored more runs in the first 21 overs and Pakistan's pace was too slow due to which they could score only 60 runs.
Pakistan didn't loss the match for their slow run rate actually. The main reason for their loss was the fall of 6 wickets within 60 runs only. Pakistan has sent a weak squad in Zimbabwe to play the series. I won't be surprised if Pakistan loss this ODI series against Zimbabwe. Pakistan would have scored more runs in the first 21 overs if their batting line-up didn't collapse like that.
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However, from the extent to which we were able to enjoy today's match, it is somewhat assumed that the Zimbabwe team has improved a little. Although the Zimbabwe team could not make much of an advantage in batting in today's match, they surprised the cricket fans with a great performance on the bowling side. Congratulations to the Zimbabwe team for giving cricket fans something great in today's first match of the ODI series.

In this year 2024, I think there was the good effort and progress by the Zimbabwe team. They are not able to make their place in the last ICC event and also at the same time, they are not playing the next ICC Champions Trophy. And I don't have idea but I think Zimbabwe has not even played Champion Trophy since their cricket started. However in 2024 after the World Cup, firstly they beat the Indian team in a T20 match and after this for some time there was a break and played matches against weak teams but then yesterday they also beat Pakistan.

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Yes, I also regret Pakistan's defeat because they could have easily won this match.  But due to DLS, Zimbabwe will win the match.  Zimbabwe had scored more runs in the first 21 overs and Pakistan's pace was too slow due to which they could score only 60 runs.  Although Zimbabwe did not set a big target which Pakistan could have achieved in 20 overs as they would have played this match as a T20.  Congratulations to Zimbabwe for this no-win, they should also play well as they didn't play that well as they only set a target of 205 despite having a 50 over innings.  Pakistan's bowling was quite good but their batting is not so much. If they improve it, they can definitely become a strong team and they can win every match.

Two matches are still left and I think Pakistan can make a good and strong comeback this time too. After this, the T20 series will come and to be honest, I am more scared for the T20 matches because, in the 2022 World Cup, Pakistan lost against Zimbabwe, that was so bad for them and at that time, there were many chances for the Pakistan team to get out of the tournament but they did not, because somehow they have reached the final game but ended up runners-up. However, I'll wait for the next match to see the revenge.
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Unfortunately, today's desired match had to be ended by DLS method. Today's match was really starting to take shape as a great match. But unfortunately, the rain attacked the match after 21 overs of the second innings. Due to the rain attack, we could not enjoy the entire match. However, from the extent to which we were able to enjoy today's match, it is somewhat assumed that the Zimbabwe team has improved a little. Although the Zimbabwe team could not make much of an advantage in batting in today's match, they surprised the cricket fans with a great performance on the bowling side. Congratulations to the Zimbabwe team for giving cricket fans something great in today's first match of the ODI series.
Yes, I also regret Pakistan's defeat because they could have easily won this match.  But due to DLS, Zimbabwe will win the match.  Zimbabwe had scored more runs in the first 21 overs and Pakistan's pace was too slow due to which they could score only 60 runs.  Although Zimbabwe did not set a big target which Pakistan could have achieved in 20 overs as they would have played this match as a T20.  Congratulations to Zimbabwe for this no-win, they should also play well as they didn't play that well as they only set a target of 205 despite having a 50 over innings.  Pakistan's bowling was quite good but their batting is not so much. If they improve it, they can definitely become a strong team and they can win every match.
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The game of Pakistan team has not changed but their frustration still remains due to which they did not win the match against Zimbabwe. Although the batting performance of Pakistan team has deteriorated a lot, they have not improved and their confidence may have been lost. Pakistan team lost the match against a team like Zimbabwe, it was really unbelievable that a strong team like Pakistan would lose. Pakistan team has not been playing very well for the last few matches, although they played well against Australia, they did not play well at all in the first match against Zimbabwe. However, I think Pakistan team will definitely have to play harder against Zimbabwe in the next matches and improve their game, besides they will have to strengthen their game and regain their confidence to win the series.
Again we see upset moment and Pakistan team lost 1 st odi game by Zimbabwe team. Pakistan team always unpredictable and there is not doubt in this statement. In their past series with Australia team, I think that Pakistan team did not win single game before start of series but they did not win single game but they won series by leading 2 wins. But in 1 st odi GA e with Zimbabwe they showed very poor effort in batting. In bowling, they stopped Zimbabwe Batsman for 208 runs and this target was not big in ODI and easy to chase it. Raza made great progress from Zimbabwe side and he made 39 runs in 56 balls and hitted six 4s and in bowling, he took down 2 wickets in 3 overs. Pakistan team lost game by 80 runs in DLS method and this was the big lost but Pakistan team still have a chance to bounce back in series just like in past series.
Pakistan's performance against Zimbabwe is perhaps the reason why Pakistan is called an unpredictable team. If the performance is not good, it does not matter whether it is a small team or a big team, they will lose to any team. This is a big problem of the Pakistan team, which the team has not been able to solve properly even after a long time. If Pakistan's opening batsmen cannot bat well, then it is difficult to expect to win that match. Once their wickets fall, then they keep losing wickets in series. Saim Ayub and Abdullah Shafique could not start well. Those who came after them could not stay there either, which is why they had to lose against the Zimbabwe team. Due to the rain interruption, they lost by a big margin even in the DLS method. With such a performance from Pakistan, how can we expect anything good in a big tournament? There is a need to change the team quickly and should be included good cricketers.
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Well this also makes them look like a small team and no one would listen to them if they demand India and rest of the world to visit their country for champion trophy. It will just make their case weak to have the ICC champions trophy in their own country. I would be keen to see how Pakistan will perform in rest of the matches, as losing the series would seriously dent their cause.

I really don't know who to blame for this loss by Pakistan. I heard on social media that people are complaining the rain and the DLS as the reason of their loss and ignore the fact that they made only 60 odds runs and lost a lot of wickets too. Pakistan team seriously need to think about their performance while Zimbabwe must be celebrating this win.

Weak in performance doesn't mean you were deprived of your scheduled hosting right. WI is a weak team but still hosted T20 world cup. India not visiting Pakistan is totally a political issue and is there for over a decade. Pakistan lost the game because of poor batting although target was not a big one. 141 runs were required on 126 balls but Pakistan only manage to score 60 runs and lost 6 wickets for that.  

Yes I agree too that poor performance should not be deciding factor to host an ICC tournament.

If rain did interrupted the match and the DLS method would not be involved in the yesterday's match then at that condition, still Zimbabwe was winning in that condition too or maybe they would win with more efficiency.

Pakistan cannot chase the target of just 141, the original was more than 200 but after DLS it has decrease to the 141 and they cannot even chase this score. Also if we talk about the bowling then that was also so poor and cannot defend the scoring by Zimbabwe. No words to say at this stage, Pakistan had such a bad start here. Muhammad Rizwan has also not played good and just waste balls.
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Well this also makes them look like a small team and no one would listen to them if they demand India and rest of the world to visit their country for champion trophy. It will just make their case weak to have the ICC champions trophy in their own country. I would be keen to see how Pakistan will perform in rest of the matches, as losing the series would seriously dent their cause.

I really don't know who to blame for this loss by Pakistan. I heard on social media that people are complaining the rain and the DLS as the reason of their loss and ignore the fact that they made only 60 odds runs and lost a lot of wickets too. Pakistan team seriously need to think about their performance while Zimbabwe must be celebrating this win.

Weak in performance doesn't mean you were deprived of your scheduled hosting right. WI is a weak team but still hosted T20 world cup. India not visiting Pakistan is totally a political issue and is there for over a decade. Pakistan lost the game because of poor batting although target was not a big one. 141 runs were required on 126 balls but Pakistan only manage to score 60 runs and lost 6 wickets for that. 
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The game of Pakistan team has not changed but their frustration still remains due to which they did not win the match against Zimbabwe. Although the batting performance of Pakistan team has deteriorated a lot, they have not improved and their confidence may have been lost. Pakistan team lost the match against a team like Zimbabwe, it was really unbelievable that a strong team like Pakistan would lose. Pakistan team has not been playing very well for the last few matches, although they played well against Australia, they did not play well at all in the first match against Zimbabwe. However, I think Pakistan team will definitely have to play harder against Zimbabwe in the next matches and improve their game, besides they will have to strengthen their game and regain their confidence to win the series.
Again we see upset moment and Pakistan team lost 1 st odi game by Zimbabwe team. Pakistan team always unpredictable and there is not doubt in this statement. In their past series with Australia team, I think that Pakistan team did not win single game before start of series but they did not win single game but they won series by leading 2 wins. But in 1 st odi GA e with Zimbabwe they showed very poor effort in batting. In bowling, they stopped Zimbabwe Batsman for 208 runs and this target was not big in ODI and easy to chase it. Raza made great progress from Zimbabwe side and he made 39 runs in 56 balls and hitted six 4s and in bowling, he took down 2 wickets in 3 overs. Pakistan team lost game by 80 runs in DLS method and this was the big lost but Pakistan team still have a chance to bounce back in series just like in past series.
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The game of Pakistan team has not changed but their frustration still remains due to which they did not win the match against Zimbabwe. Although the batting performance of Pakistan team has deteriorated a lot, they have not improved and their confidence may have been lost. Pakistan team lost the match against a team like Zimbabwe, it was really unbelievable that a strong team like Pakistan would lose. Pakistan team has not been playing very well for the last few matches, although they played well against Australia, they did not play well at all in the first match against Zimbabwe. However, I think Pakistan team will definitely have to play harder against Zimbabwe in the next matches and improve their game, besides they will have to strengthen their game and regain their confidence to win the series.
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The Pakistan Born Zimbabwe player Sikandar Raza always play an important role in every Pakistan vs Zimbabwe game. In today's game, the difference between Pakistan and Zimbabwe is Sikander Raza. First he has an important 62 run 8th wicket partnership with Richard Ngarava and then he picked two wickets in bowling. Pakistan cricket is once again at it's lowest and they once again prove that they don't have consistency in there performance. If Pakistan can't win against Zimbabwe then how they will face top teams in upcoming ICC champions trophy.  
For me this is one of worst ever performance from Pakistani cricket team like it's true that they have no consistency like like one minute up and second minutes down, who will believe that they are the one who brutally smashed Australian team in Australia which is mostly impossible for any normal team but they does and now against an associate team they exposed thier batting lineup like seriously Kamran got several chances but just scored a single century In home test match against england while salman agha were continuing thier single digit scored with some golden ducks. While compared to Australian Zimbabwe were very easy opponent but still such failure. They have 17/2 and then 58/6, to be honest thanks GOD rain safed them otherwise it will be more than 100 margin victory of  Zimbabwe at home ground Undecided

I am fed up with the poor performance of Pakistan and Bangladesh. For the past few years, we have been seeing poor and inconsistent performances from these two teams. Pakistan won the ODI series against Australia a few days ago by 2-1. We have seen Pakistani players perform well in the ODI format against Australia. But today Pakistan performed abysmally against a team like Zimbabwe.

Pakistan scored only 60 runs in 21 overs for the loss of 6 wickets. Pakistani batsmen batted like fools. Pakistan could not score even at an average of 3 runs per over. Pakistan has a lot of experienced players in the squad. Even then, the team is not able to perform as expected.
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If Pakistan can't win against Zimbabwe then how they will face top teams in upcoming ICC champions trophy.  

Well this also makes them look like a small team and no one would listen to them if they demand India and rest of the world to visit their country for champion trophy. It will just make their case weak to have the ICC champions trophy in their own country. I would be keen to see how Pakistan will perform in rest of the matches, as losing the series would seriously dent their cause.

I really don't know who to blame for this loss by Pakistan. I heard on social media that people are complaining the rain and the DLS as the reason of their loss and ignore the fact that they made only 60 odds runs and lost a lot of wickets too. Pakistan team seriously need to think about their performance while Zimbabwe must be celebrating this win.
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