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I have no idea what is going on with the Zimbabwe cricket board at home at the moment.
The amount of money they receive from the ICC doesn't seem to be being used in a productive manner by them.

Besides, they are getting a decent amount of money from the ICC, compared to what the associates team is getting from the organization. It goes without saying that the corruption in the Zimbabwe cricket board is not helping the situation in any way. After the retirement of Sikandar Raza, I do not see any credible candidates as a replacement for him. Who may be able to carry the Zimbabwe team forward in the future? Sad
I don't know how much interested is the native population in the sport of cricket. They can't rely on the white and Asian players for too long, because that player pool is rapidly vanishing (although still we get quality players such as Brad Evans once in a while). Zimbabwe team until the late 90s used to be all-white, with Madondo, Olonga and Mbangwa being rare exceptions. But times have changed and due to political reasons the vast majority of the white population departed from that country. And unfortunately the black population doesn't seems to be too interested in cricket.
A big issue for few countries in this region like Zimbabwe, South Africa and Zambia they have no good enough black players in cricket and this all happening due to restrictions which set by white rulers few decades back and sadly now they have native black governments, but they completely fail to bring some fair system for all communities just because of this we are watching many issues in South Africa and Zimbabwe fail to bring any better quality and Zambia is also all gone with white players it's all about corruption and few other things which give them set back.

Because, I was feeling South Africa could be role model for many countries as they have resources and change of governments will bring some positive developments but their personal issues and political influence give them more shocks, and now they are still having not good enough system which give them quality players from all communities for national team.
Yes it is true that their team is not good now. If Zimbabwe and South Africa can improve their cricket boards better then their country will produce better players.But I think every government should pay attention to the cultural media that every country has.This civilization in culture can take a country to the heights of recognition and progress.Today there are some countries that people don't know about but through different sports all those countries are known all over the world.That is why I say that every country's government knows that all its cultural games express the importance of games.

I believe that Zimbabwean team never really improved in ODI once their star player’s left, and since then they have only been in a one way decline mode. Furthermore I feel that if they had a strong fan base then it would have helped them put some pressure on their board, but since they don’t have a strong fan base I doubt that we’ll see them improve anytime soon.
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I think the native players are not very interested because probably the pay is not very good. But then again if the payment is not so good how can there be players in the team from another region?

Sikandar Raza is it, a Pakistani-born player. He wouldn’t have been on the team if the pay was not good. So, I think it’s something else. There must be players who really wish to be on the national team right?

I know that there are a lot of problems in the country and also on the board. I just think that they should arrange for more talent hunts in the country. That way they will be able to find actual talents which will be very helpful for them going into the future. And that will also make other kids interested in cricket in zimbabwe.

Zimbabwe do have a well structured domestic system and more than 90% of the players are native African. But the problem is that the quality is not very good. And that is why they are very dependent on players who are based outside such as Sean Williams. In case of Sikandar Raza, he was originally born in Sialkot, but migrated to Zimbabwe when he was 16 years old. His case is unlike the case with the UAE national team, which just imports players from India and Pakistan. Raza started his cricketing career in Zimbabwe.
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I have no idea what is going on with the Zimbabwe cricket board at home at the moment.
The amount of money they receive from the ICC doesn't seem to be being used in a productive manner by them.

Besides, they are getting a decent amount of money from the ICC, compared to what the associates team is getting from the organization. It goes without saying that the corruption in the Zimbabwe cricket board is not helping the situation in any way. After the retirement of Sikandar Raza, I do not see any credible candidates as a replacement for him. Who may be able to carry the Zimbabwe team forward in the future? Sad
I don't know how much interested is the native population in the sport of cricket. They can't rely on the white and Asian players for too long, because that player pool is rapidly vanishing (although still we get quality players such as Brad Evans once in a while). Zimbabwe team until the late 90s used to be all-white, with Madondo, Olonga and Mbangwa being rare exceptions. But times have changed and due to political reasons the vast majority of the white population departed from that country. And unfortunately the black population doesn't seems to be too interested in cricket.
A big issue for few countries in this region like Zimbabwe, South Africa and Zambia they have no good enough black players in cricket and this all happening due to restrictions which set by white rulers few decades back and sadly now they have native black governments, but they completely fail to bring some fair system for all communities just because of this we are watching many issues in South Africa and Zimbabwe fail to bring any better quality and Zambia is also all gone with white players it's all about corruption and few other things which give them set back.

Because, I was feeling South Africa could be role model for many countries as they have resources and change of governments will bring some positive developments but their personal issues and political influence give them more shocks, and now they are still having not good enough system which give them quality players from all communities for national team.
Yes it is true that their team is not good now. If Zimbabwe and South Africa can improve their cricket boards better then their country will produce better players.But I think every government should pay attention to the cultural media that every country has.This civilization in culture can take a country to the heights of recognition and progress.Today there are some countries that people don't know about but through different sports all those countries are known all over the world.That is why I say that every country's government knows that all its cultural games express the importance of games.
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I have no idea what is going on with the Zimbabwe cricket board at home at the moment.
The amount of money they receive from the ICC doesn't seem to be being used in a productive manner by them.

Besides, they are getting a decent amount of money from the ICC, compared to what the associates team is getting from the organization. It goes without saying that the corruption in the Zimbabwe cricket board is not helping the situation in any way. After the retirement of Sikandar Raza, I do not see any credible candidates as a replacement for him. Who may be able to carry the Zimbabwe team forward in the future? Sad
I don't know how much interested is the native population in the sport of cricket. They can't rely on the white and Asian players for too long, because that player pool is rapidly vanishing (although still we get quality players such as Brad Evans once in a while). Zimbabwe team until the late 90s used to be all-white, with Madondo, Olonga and Mbangwa being rare exceptions. But times have changed and due to political reasons the vast majority of the white population departed from that country. And unfortunately the black population doesn't seems to be too interested in cricket.
A big issue for few countries in this region like Zimbabwe, South Africa and Zambia they have no good enough black players in cricket and this all happening due to restrictions which set by white rulers few decades back and sadly now they have native black governments, but they completely fail to bring some fair system for all communities just because of this we are watching many issues in South Africa and Zimbabwe fail to bring any better quality and Zambia is also all gone with white players it's all about corruption and few other things which give them set back.

Because, I was feeling South Africa could be role model for many countries as they have resources and change of governments will bring some positive developments but their personal issues and political influence give them more shocks, and now they are still having not good enough system which give them quality players from all communities for national team.
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I have no idea what is going on with the Zimbabwe cricket board at home at the moment.
The amount of money they receive from the ICC doesn't seem to be being used in a productive manner by them.
Besides, they are getting a decent amount of money from the ICC, compared to what the associates team is getting from the organization. It goes without saying that the corruption in the Zimbabwe cricket board is not helping the situation in any way. After the retirement of Sikandar Raza, I do not see any credible candidates as a replacement for him. Who may be able to carry the Zimbabwe team forward in the future? Sad
I don't know how much interested is the native population in the sport of cricket. They can't rely on the white and Asian players for too long, because that player pool is rapidly vanishing (although still we get quality players such as Brad Evans once in a while). Zimbabwe team until the late 90s used to be all-white, with Madondo, Olonga and Mbangwa being rare exceptions. But times have changed and due to political reasons the vast majority of the white population departed from that country. And unfortunately the black population doesn't seems to be too interested in cricket.

I think the native players are not very interested because probably the pay is not very good. But then again if the payment is not so good how can there be players in the team from another region?

Sikandar Raza is it, a Pakistani-born player. He wouldn’t have been on the team if the pay was not good. So, I think it’s something else. There must be players who really wish to be on the national team right?

I know that there are a lot of problems in the country and also on the board. I just think that they should arrange for more talent hunts in the country. That way they will be able to find actual talents which will be very helpful for them going into the future. And that will also make other kids interested in cricket in zimbabwe.
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I have no idea what is going on with the Zimbabwe cricket board at home at the moment.
The amount of money they receive from the ICC doesn't seem to be being used in a productive manner by them.

Besides, they are getting a decent amount of money from the ICC, compared to what the associates team is getting from the organization. It goes without saying that the corruption in the Zimbabwe cricket board is not helping the situation in any way. After the retirement of Sikandar Raza, I do not see any credible candidates as a replacement for him. Who may be able to carry the Zimbabwe team forward in the future? Sad

I don't know how much interested is the native population in the sport of cricket. They can't rely on the white and Asian players for too long, because that player pool is rapidly vanishing (although still we get quality players such as Brad Evans once in a while). Zimbabwe team until the late 90s used to be all-white, with Madondo, Olonga and Mbangwa being rare exceptions. But times have changed and due to political reasons the vast majority of the white population departed from that country. And unfortunately the black population doesn't seems to be too interested in cricket.
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Zimbabwe has a number of talented players in its squad. And they are consistently performing well. I would say Zimbabwe's main weakness is in its top order. Top orders or openers are not playing well. A win against a strong team is impossible if the top-order players cannot bat responsibly.
Zimbabwe will also need to strengthen their bowling line-up. They have to select the bowlers after checking the pitch condition. I don't know if Zimbabwe's coach is experienced. But right now Zimbabwe needs an experienced coach. Only then will Zimbabwe's overall performance improve somewhat.
Few decades back there was a golden chance for them as they can emerge as one of the best team in Africa and able to fight for their best results against other top teams but sadly due to Boards inner politics and having poor management they lost too many quality players those leave cricket and now Zimbabwe is in dilemma with most chances they can't recover and will stay on this level for long time because corruption is main issue for them and authorities are doing nothing for this even they are not caring about players and their domestic set up which need some good backup and better infrastructure for having good players in their main stream.
In last ODI I was eagerly watching they will win and have some good confidence but sadly in last two overs they lost this match and good chance for having 10 points in league table.
Zimbabwe managed to bounce back after a long time. Just look, Bangladesh have a good record in ODIs but Zimbabwe ignored them. People may have criticized Bangladesh's quality of play, but the reality is that Zimbabwe is not in the same position as before, their cricket has improved tremendously.

It is difficult task to pull the team out of disaster especially when that game is against a world cricket top team India. In that game, the deficit in the top order had to be made up by the middle order players and came back into the match through Sikandar Raja. So it is criticized all over the world   that Zimbabwe's Top order batsmen are relatively weak if they can fix that spot then Zimbabwe cricket could be known as a powerhouse.

@SirLancelot I still remember watching some old games of the old Zimbabwe team. And I still remember how much the flower brothers were known throughout the whole world for the good performance that they often delivered. It was actually good to see those games because Zimbabwe actually played very competitively against the biggest names in cricket.

@GigaBit The Zimbabwe team is not actually very well-rounded. The top order is often a failure for Zimbabwe. And they don’t have any fearful bowling lineup that can actually do some damage to their opponent's batting lineup. Until they fix those problems they will not be able to win against better opponents regularly.
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Not forced but Banned for some drugs and bookie controversy in Mumbai. Brendan Taylor was excellent bat tho bt that's a full stop to his international career as he's already 35-ish.
Sikandar Raza is earning praise nowadays and rightly so, not sure if he's into franchise cricket but he should attract some new contract soon. This would help his game and Zimbabwe cricket as well. 

Oh.. OK.. this is new information for me. Still I believe that Brendan Taylor was one of the most under-rated cricketers. He made his debut when he was extremely young and played a number of memorable knocks. But then he was in and out of the cricket team, thanks to the politics within ZC. It is unfortunate that we will never see him in action again.

Sikandar Raza seems to be in terrific form, but the age is not on his side. He is already 36 years old and at the most he maybe having 2-3 years of international cricket left. And who will replace him after his retirement?

I have no idea what is going on with the Zimbabwe cricket board at home at the moment.
The amount of money they receive from the ICC doesn't seem to be being used in a productive manner by them.

Besides, they are getting a decent amount of money from the ICC, compared to what the associates team is getting from the organization. It goes without saying that the corruption in the Zimbabwe cricket board is not helping the situation in any way. After the retirement of Sikandar Raza, I do not see any credible candidates as a replacement for him. Who may be able to carry the Zimbabwe team forward in the future? Sad
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Zimbabwe has a number of talented players in its squad. And they are consistently performing well. I would say Zimbabwe's main weakness is in its top order. Top orders or openers are not playing well. A win against a strong team is impossible if the top-order players cannot bat responsibly.

Zimbabwe will also need to strengthen their bowling line-up. They have to select the bowlers after checking the pitch condition. I don't know if Zimbabwe's coach is experienced. But right now Zimbabwe needs an experienced coach. Only then will Zimbabwe's overall performance improve somewhat.
Few decades back there was a golden chance for them as they can emerge as one of the best team in Africa and able to fight for their best results against other top teams but sadly due to Boards inner politics and having poor management they lost too many quality players those leave cricket and now Zimbabwe is in dilemma with most chances they can't recover and will stay on this level for long time because corruption is main issue for them and authorities are doing nothing for this even they are not caring about players and their domestic set up which need some good backup and better infrastructure for having good players in their main stream.

In last ODI I was eagerly watching they will win and have some good confidence but sadly in last two overs they lost this match and good chance for having 10 points in league table.
Zimbabwe managed to bounce back after a long time. Just look, Bangladesh have a good record in ODIs but Zimbabwe ignored them. People may have criticized Bangladesh's quality of play, but the reality is that Zimbabwe is not in the same position as before, their cricket has improved tremendously.

It is difficult task to pull the team out of disaster especially when that game is against a world cricket top team India. In that game, the deficit in the top order had to be made up by the middle order players and came back into the match through Sikandar Raja. So it is criticized all over the world   that Zimbabwe's Top order batsmen are relatively weak if they can fix that spot then Zimbabwe cricket could be known as a powerhouse.
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Not forced but Banned for some drugs and bookie controversy in Mumbai. Brendan Taylor was excellent bat tho bt that's a full stop to his international career as he's already 35-ish.

Sikandar Raza is earning praise nowadays and rightly so, not sure if he's into franchise cricket but he should attract some new contract soon. This would help his game and Zimbabwe cricket as well. 

Oh.. OK.. this is new information for me. Still I believe that Brendan Taylor was one of the most under-rated cricketers. He made his debut when he was extremely young and played a number of memorable knocks. But then he was in and out of the cricket team, thanks to the politics within ZC. It is unfortunate that we will never see him in action again.

Sikandar Raza seems to be in terrific form, but the age is not on his side. He is already 36 years old and at the most he maybe having 2-3 years of international cricket left. And who will replace him after his retirement?
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Zimbabwe is a very easy team for India if Zimbabwe could have kept their wickets played a little more carefully then Zimbabwe could have reached the target of victory India played well from the start its win was for India overall the game was enjoyable
Match was so tough to win for both teams at a certain time. If Zimbabwe played without losing wickets specially the wicket of Sikandar Raza, they had good chance to win over India. Brilliant performance from India at the end of that match and finally they managed to win perfectly.

Yea, these matches are getting awfully close. Zimbawe played really well.

Maybe it's home advantage? They definitely feel more comfortable than Indian players do. I really wanted to see an upset here Sad

I am guessing this was the end of the tour? Surprised that there aren't any T20 matches
Only last match comes into being "close" category, previous 2 matches were one-sided and looked dead to me even by checking just scoreboard. Yeah would've been great if there was some sort of upset in the last game, 1 bad over here n there and things could've been gone in favor of Zimbabwe.

Small teams need these kinds of win against big teams every now n then but it'll be only possible if they play regularly.
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Zimbabwe is a very easy team for India if Zimbabwe could have kept their wickets played a little more carefully then Zimbabwe could have reached the target of victory India played well from the start its win was for India overall the game was enjoyable
Match was so tough to win for both teams at a certain time. If Zimbabwe played without losing wickets specially the wicket of Sikandar Raza, they had good chance to win over India. Brilliant performance from India at the end of that match and finally they managed to win perfectly.

Yea, these matches are getting awfully close. Zimbawe played really well.

Maybe it's home advantage? They definitely feel more comfortable than Indian players do. I really wanted to see an upset here Sad

I am guessing this was the end of the tour? Surprised that there aren't any T20 matches
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Zimbabwe is a very easy team for India if Zimbabwe could have kept their wickets played a little more carefully then Zimbabwe could have reached the target of victory India played well from the start its win was for India overall the game was enjoyable
Match was so tough to win for both teams at a certain time. If Zimbabwe played without losing wickets specially the wicket of Sikandar Raza, they had good chance to win over India. Brilliant performance from India at the end of that match and finally they managed to win perfectly.
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Zimbabwe has a number of talented players in its squad. And they are consistently performing well. I would say Zimbabwe's main weakness is in its top order. Top orders or openers are not playing well. A win against a strong team is impossible if the top-order players cannot bat responsibly.

Zimbabwe will also need to strengthen their bowling line-up. They have to select the bowlers after checking the pitch condition. I don't know if Zimbabwe's coach is experienced. But right now Zimbabwe needs an experienced coach. Only then will Zimbabwe's overall performance improve somewhat.
Few decades back there was a golden chance for them as they can emerge as one of the best team in Africa and able to fight for their best results against other top teams but sadly due to Boards inner politics and having poor management they lost too many quality players those leave cricket and now Zimbabwe is in dilemma with most chances they can't recover and will stay on this level for long time because corruption is main issue for them and authorities are doing nothing for this even they are not caring about players and their domestic set up which need some good backup and better infrastructure for having good players in their main stream.

In last ODI I was eagerly watching they will win and have some good confidence but sadly in last two overs they lost this match and good chance for having 10 points in league table.
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Zimbabwe has a number of talented players in its squad. And they are consistently performing well. I would say Zimbabwe's main weakness is in its top order. Top orders or openers are not playing well. A win against a strong team is impossible if the top-order players cannot bat responsibly.
Zimbabwe will also need to strengthen their bowling line-up. They have to select the bowlers after checking the pitch condition. I don't know if Zimbabwe's coach is experienced. But right now Zimbabwe needs an experienced coach. Only then will Zimbabwe's overall performance improve somewhat.
If they retain their players, then this issue will not be there. Imagine a playing XI with Brendan Taylor in top order, Sikandar Raza, Sean Williams and Craig Ervine in the middle order and Muzarabani and Kyle Jarvis as bowlers. But players such as Taylor and Jarvis were forced to retire due to their differences with the cricket board. I am not sure what is the issue exactly. But the board receives around $12 million every year from the ICC and giving these players decent contracts won't put that much of a burden on the funds.
Not forced but Banned for some drugs and bookie controversy in Mumbai. Brendan Taylor was excellent bat tho bt that's a full stop to his international career as he's already 35-ish.
Sikandar Raza is earning praise nowadays and rightly so, not sure if he's into franchise cricket but he should attract some new contract soon. This would help his game and Zimbabwe cricket as well. 

Sikandar Reza is a good player. He is just like a silver lining for Zimbabwe cricket. I wish he would be able to play in franchisee cricket because we all know what he did against Bangladesh recently. And it is just sad what happened with Brendan Taylor, he is already 36 years old.

So even if he tries to make a comeback after his ban is lifted, I don’t think he will be able to play very well. If Zimbabwe didn’t have these types of problems it would still be one of the best teams in the world.
Currently, India is one of the most talked about and popular cricket team in the world.We have been watching every game of India very well, it shows that India plays very well But Zimbabwe is not bad but a very good team. However, due to some mistakes of Zimbabwe, they could not ensure the victory of the match. They lost to India by just 13 runs which was Zimbabwe's biggest failure.I congratulate the Zimbabwe team, they will surely do well and win every match from now on.
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Zimbabwe is a very easy team for India if Zimbabwe could have kept their wickets played a little more carefully then Zimbabwe could have reached the target of victory India played well from the start its win was for India overall the game was enjoyable
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Zimbabwe has a number of talented players in its squad. And they are consistently performing well. I would say Zimbabwe's main weakness is in its top order. Top orders or openers are not playing well. A win against a strong team is impossible if the top-order players cannot bat responsibly.
Zimbabwe will also need to strengthen their bowling line-up. They have to select the bowlers after checking the pitch condition. I don't know if Zimbabwe's coach is experienced. But right now Zimbabwe needs an experienced coach. Only then will Zimbabwe's overall performance improve somewhat.
If they retain their players, then this issue will not be there. Imagine a playing XI with Brendan Taylor in top order, Sikandar Raza, Sean Williams and Craig Ervine in the middle order and Muzarabani and Kyle Jarvis as bowlers. But players such as Taylor and Jarvis were forced to retire due to their differences with the cricket board. I am not sure what is the issue exactly. But the board receives around $12 million every year from the ICC and giving these players decent contracts won't put that much of a burden on the funds.
Not forced but Banned for some drugs and bookie controversy in Mumbai. Brendan Taylor was excellent bat tho bt that's a full stop to his international career as he's already 35-ish.
Sikandar Raza is earning praise nowadays and rightly so, not sure if he's into franchise cricket but he should attract some new contract soon. This would help his game and Zimbabwe cricket as well. 

Sikandar Reza is a good player. He is just like a silver lining for Zimbabwe cricket. I wish he would be able to play in franchisee cricket because we all know what he did against Bangladesh recently. And it is just sad what happened with Brendan Taylor, he is already 36 years old.

So even if he tries to make a comeback after his ban is lifted, I don’t think he will be able to play very well. If Zimbabwe didn’t have these types of problems it would still be one of the best teams in the world.
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Abesh Khan's collection of 16 runs in the 48th over could have brought a different turning point.But as Evans got out on the last ball, the match was largely in India's pocket. More unfortunate Sikander Raja finally got out and India won the match completely.

All credit for Zimbabwe for such a terrific fightback, but in the end overdependence on a few players never works. Sikandar Raza have been in terrific form this year. But unfortunately for Zimbabwe, hardly anyone else have contributed. Sean Williams and Craig Ervine were unavailable for the majority of the matches. Their bowling also suffered greatly, as Blessing Muzarabani was unavailable. Sadly, I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for them. The quality seems to be going down with every passing year.
Among any remaining players Sikandar Raza were excellent. He remained in strong form against India, however none have contributed, sadly.Their bowling endured significantly, their squad missed talented bowlers. Zimbabwe would have certainly won, if they bowled and filled well. This team will make a significant setback in World Cup without a doubt.
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Zimbabwe has a number of talented players in its squad. And they are consistently performing well. I would say Zimbabwe's main weakness is in its top order. Top orders or openers are not playing well. A win against a strong team is impossible if the top-order players cannot bat responsibly.

Zimbabwe will also need to strengthen their bowling line-up. They have to select the bowlers after checking the pitch condition. I don't know if Zimbabwe's coach is experienced. But right now Zimbabwe needs an experienced coach. Only then will Zimbabwe's overall performance improve somewhat.

If they retain their players, then this issue will not be there. Imagine a playing XI with Brendan Taylor in top order, Sikandar Raza, Sean Williams and Craig Ervine in the middle order and Muzarabani and Kyle Jarvis as bowlers. But players such as Taylor and Jarvis were forced to retire due to their differences with the cricket board. I am not sure what is the issue exactly. But the board receives around $12 million every year from the ICC and giving these players decent contracts won't put that much of a burden on the funds.
Not forced but Banned for some drugs and bookie controversy in Mumbai. Brendan Taylor was excellent bat tho bt that's a full stop to his international career as he's already 35-ish.

Sikandar Raza is earning praise nowadays and rightly so, not sure if he's into franchise cricket but he should attract some new contract soon. This would help his game and Zimbabwe cricket as well. 
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The Zimbabwe cricket world is another one that does not care about the players in the team. This is always a problem with smaller cricket boards. Especially those boards which have greedy people in them as personnel.

In smaller countries with smaller revenue being generated and greedy people being the ones who run the board it is always proving to be a problem for the players. That is a big reason why players don’t have the same opinion as the people running the cricket boards. Players start thinking about how cricket can be better and the cricket boards are thinking about how they can generate more money. What they don’t realize is that if the team is playing well the money is going to come eventually.

Well.. it looks as if the ICC has also given up on Zimbabwe. For a short period, they actually suspended the cricket board. But then, after some time they again re-instated the membership without any changes to the working structure of the board. I am eagerly looking towards the fund allocation for the next cycle (2024-31). There is no reason why Zimbabwe should receive a higher allocation when compared to Ireland and Afghanistan. And there is no justification to Nepal receiving 2% of the funds that Zimbabwe get.
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