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Quote from: savetheFORUM on August 31, 2022, 07:14:11 AM

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

I would rather place 6-7 teams in the top tier and same number of teams in the second tier. But then, it won't be acceptable for teams such as Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, who will be relegated to the second tier. So as of now, there is no solution available which is acceptable for all the parties. And with the gap between top teams and the lower ranked teams widening, the issue of lop-sided matches will be raised more often in the future. Increased fund allocation from the ICC would not achieve anything, as seen from the case with Zimbabwe.

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Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

Zimbabwe didn’t do anything. They absolutely could not do anything and batting first also did not help them. They could not even reach a hundred with the whole team. All the Zimbabwe team was back in the hut before they reached a hundred and obviously they also could not play out the whole 50 overs. I was honestly expecting better from Zimbabwe thinking that they are going to learn from their mistakes. Obviously, that did not happen. Australia wins this series which was expected. Let’s see if Zimbabwe can salvage something from the series in the last match.

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Quote from: romero121 on August 30, 2022, 11:02:52 PM

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 31, 2022, 02:55:49 AM

Quote from: romero121 on August 30, 2022, 11:02:52 PM

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

It is true that Zimbabwe constantly getting the chance with successive big teams but their performances have worsened. Although they played well only against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe is nothing compared to other big teams. It was said earlier that this series will be one-sided. Zimbabwe is not eligible to play with them in any way. Moreover, neither the ICC nor the board or spectators can benefit from such matches.

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Quote from: romero121 on August 30, 2022, 11:02:52 PM

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

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Quote from: Minecache on August 30, 2022, 06:15:45 AM

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

LOL.. Zimbabwe couldn't even get to a decent score. All out for 96. I am sure that Australia will wrap up the match in max 15 overs. Look at the matches involving Netherlands and Ireland in the ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. None of those matches were as lop-sided as the ones involving Zimbabwe. And I hope that the ICC will take this into account, before deciding on the fund allocation for the next cycle (2024-31). As of now, Zimbabwe receive $12 million per year from the ICC. If they can't perform, then there is no point in allocating this much.

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

It is good for Zimbabwe. If small teams are continually get this opportunity, they will do better. Just look at the Afghanistan cricket, they deserves praise today. The maturity they have shown in cricket has made the whole cricketing world splendid. If they can maintain this consistency, they will be able to improve their cricket in the upper level.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 30, 2022, 09:44:13 PM

Quote from: Minecache on August 30, 2022, 06:15:45 AM

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

LOL.. Zimbabwe couldn't even get to a decent score. All out for 96. I am sure that Australia will wrap up the match in max 15 overs. Look at the matches involving Netherlands and Ireland in the ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. None of those matches were as lop-sided as the ones involving Zimbabwe. And I hope that the ICC will take this into account, before deciding on the fund allocation for the next cycle (2024-31). As of now, Zimbabwe receive $12 million per year from the ICC. If they can't perform, then there is no point in allocating this much.

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

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Quote from: posi on August 28, 2022, 05:46:05 AM

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on August 27, 2022, 08:01:40 PM

ZIM vs AUS the 1st ODI of the Tour no doubt that AUS is a very powerful team right now against ZIM according to the current updates the Match is ongoing and ZIM is opening with the 64 Runa on a loss of 1 Wicket and excitement goes on with the 16 Overs. Seems like ZIM is struggling for the Runs but heavy play by the players appreciated as Partnership is far more important then the Runs Rate in the first 25 oblvers and ZIM is trying to hold down the Wickets

Now Zimbabwe is batting. They are playing much better. Zimbabwe have lost 5 wickets so far. They scored 186 runs in 44 overs. Looks like they can score more than 220 runs in this match. All their good batting outs. Now they have to face many problems to get runs. Wesley Madhavere scored 72 off 91 balls. I think he played very well.

There has been an end to the Zimbabwe vs Australia match. There was no doubt that the match between these two teams was very one-sided, as we all expected it to be. With five wickets in hand, Australia won the match with almost 17 overs to spare. Despite Zimbabwe's best efforts, the Australian team was unfazed by what happened, and they walked away with the victory. As a result, Zimbabwe simply did not score enough runs on the board to win the game. In addition, they got all out before the 50 overs were fished. The Australians did not have any problems whatsoever during the whole process.

Yes, I think this match was very well played, we saw that all the players of both teams played a lot of ball Hopefully we will see more games like this.

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Quote from: Minecache on August 30, 2022, 06:15:45 AM

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

LOL.. Zimbabwe couldn't even get to a decent score. All out for 96. I am sure that Australia will wrap up the match in max 15 overs. Look at the matches involving Netherlands and Ireland in the ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. None of those matches were as lop-sided as the ones involving Zimbabwe. And I hope that the ICC will take this into account, before deciding on the fund allocation for the next cycle (2024-31). As of now, Zimbabwe receive $12 million per year from the ICC. If they can't perform, then there is no point in allocating this much.

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Quote from: lixer on August 30, 2022, 09:26:29 AM

Quote from: Minecache on August 30, 2022, 06:15:45 AM

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

Quality difference is going to be widened between top six teams in cricket and rest of teams just because of the poor system which is not allowing them for having more games and experience with now as cricket is spreading then need to work on these ODI and T-20 formats for increasing quality and having better healthy competition in first ODI which was completely one-sided Zimbabwe's three batsmen able to perform better, and they have figure of 200 otherwise mostly were expecting around 125 to 140 so here in this series we have no chance for any resistance from them as they are far behind in quality in recent years and their domestic set up is also not allowing them for having better results and quality players for all formats.
Australia is having good practice in this series before going into big challenges and their few youngsters are also improving performance for future which is good for them.

Yes, I agree with you. Against a team like Zimbabwe, there is no way Australia is going to lose this game. In the first ODI match, Zimbabwe did not have any chance of winning. As a matter of fact, I believe that something similar will happen at the second ODI as well. My guess is that it is going to be another very one-sided match. Unless Zimbabwe somehow finds a way to improve its situation in the near future. If they are able to play well as a team, it is likely that they will be able to make this match at least a little competitive, although the openers of Zimbabwe will also have to perform very well. I don't think it is going to happen, for obvious reasons.

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Quote from: Minecache on August 30, 2022, 06:15:45 AM

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

Quality difference is going to be widened between top six teams in cricket and rest of teams just because of the poor system which is not allowing them for having more games and experience with now as cricket is spreading then need to work on these ODI and T-20 formats for increasing quality and having better healthy competition in first ODI which was completely one-sided Zimbabwe's three batsmen able to perform better, and they have figure of 200 otherwise mostly were expecting around 125 to 140 so here in this series we have no chance for any resistance from them as they are far behind in quality in recent years and their domestic set up is also not allowing them for having better results and quality players for all formats.

Australia is having good practice in this series before going into big challenges and their few youngsters are also improving performance for future which is good for them.

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Zimbabwe lost one match in the ODI series between Zimbabwe and Australia and it is easy to say that the remaining two matches will also be one sided matches. Australia will win the series. But I have little hope that Zimbabwe will be able to build counteraction in today's match. If T Marumani , Madhevere , Raza and Chakabva can perform well. If these four player can push the score ‍and keep them under pressure in bowling then Zimbabwe's dream may come true. Then a big change can be seen in their cricket.

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

Australia played 23 matches where they collect 2325 points, while Zimbabwe's collected 910 by 23 matches. So naturally there is no comparison between these two teams and it is unlikely that Zimbabwe will win. If the Zimbabwean players can maintain their good performance consistently then any time large team can fall in obstructive situation.

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Quote from: GigaBit on August 30, 2022, 01:07:29 AM

Zimbabwe lost one match in the ODI series between Zimbabwe and Australia and it is easy to say that the remaining two matches will also be one sided matches. Australia will win the series. But I have little hope that Zimbabwe will be able to build counteraction in today's match. If T Marumani , Madhevere , Raza and Chakabva can perform well. If these four player can push the score ‍and keep them under pressure in bowling then Zimbabwe's dream may come true. Then a big change can be seen in their cricket.

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on August 30, 2022, 04:42:35 AM

@GigaBit who was even expecting Zimbabwean team to defeat the mighty Australian side?, and for me personally they were always going to lose hence the end result didn’t surprise me at all. @Sithara007 I don’t think that their board cares about qualifying for any tournament’s, because if they did then they would have planned better and therefore I don’t expect them to plan even for the next edition of the ODI World Cup.

If they don't finish among the top 8, then they won't gain automatic qualification for the world cup. Then they need to play in the qualifying tournament and at this point I don't think that they have the capability to defeat teams such as Sri Lanka and Ireland. So it is almost certain that Zimbabwe won't be a part of the ODI World Cup in 2023. In 2027, they have slightly better chances, as the total number of participants have been increased to 12. But given the current state of Zimbabwe cricket, I don't think that they will play any ODI World Cups in the future.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 30, 2022, 04:24:55 AM

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Zimbabwe lost one match in the ODI series between Zimbabwe and Australia and it is easy to say that the remaining two matches will also be one sided matches. Australia will win the series. But I have little hope that Zimbabwe will be able to build counteraction in today's match. If T Marumani , Madhevere , Raza and Chakabva can perform well. If these four player can push the score ‍and keep them under pressure in bowling then Zimbabwe's dream may come true. Then a big change can be seen in their cricket.

Even if they win 1-2 matches against Australia, there is no chance that they will be able to directly qualify for the ODI World Cup. It is going to be an uphill task for the Zimbabweans. They are playing without some of their best players and that too away from home. With just 5 matches remaining (2 from this series), Zimbabwe is at 12th place with just 35 points. Even if they win all the remaining 5 matches, they will fail to finish among top-8. Maybe now it is time for them to introspect and plan for the next edition.

@GigaBit who was even expecting Zimbabwean team to defeat the mighty Australian side?, and for me personally they were always going to lose hence the end result didn’t surprise me at all. @Sithara007 I don’t think that their board cares about qualifying for any tournament’s, because if they did then they would have planned better and therefore I don’t expect them to plan even for the next edition of the ODI World Cup.

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Quote from: GigaBit on August 30, 2022, 01:07:29 AM

Zimbabwe lost one match in the ODI series between Zimbabwe and Australia and it is easy to say that the remaining two matches will also be one sided matches. Australia will win the series. But I have little hope that Zimbabwe will be able to build counteraction in today's match. If T Marumani , Madhevere , Raza and Chakabva can perform well. If these four player can push the score ‍and keep them under pressure in bowling then Zimbabwe's dream may come true. Then a big change can be seen in their cricket.

Even if they win 1-2 matches against Australia, there is no chance that they will be able to directly qualify for the ODI World Cup. It is going to be an uphill task for the Zimbabweans. They are playing without some of their best players and that too away from home. With just 5 matches remaining (2 from this series), Zimbabwe is at 12th place with just 35 points. Even if they win all the remaining 5 matches, they will fail to finish among top-8. Maybe now it is time for them to introspect and plan for the next edition.

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Quote from: GigaBit on August 30, 2022, 01:07:29 AM

Zimbabwe lost one match in the ODI series between Zimbabwe and Australia and it is easy to say that the remaining two matches will also be one sided matches. Australia will win the series. But I have little hope that Zimbabwe will be able to build counteraction in today's match. If T Marumani , Madhevere , Raza and Chakabva can perform well. If these four player can push the score ‍and keep them under pressure in bowling then Zimbabwe's dream may come true. Then a big change can be seen in their cricket.

The Zimbabwe and Australia game that happened was not good Zimbabwe played well but Australia did not but it was a lot of fun I think if they do a bit better then good for them and if they play well then better for them

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Zimbabwe lost one match in the ODI series between Zimbabwe and Australia and it is easy to say that the remaining two matches will also be one sided matches. Australia will win the series. But I have little hope that Zimbabwe will be able to build counteraction in today's match. If T Marumani , Madhevere , Raza and Chakabva can perform well. If these four player can push the score ‍and keep them under pressure in bowling then Zimbabwe's dream may come true. Then a big change can be seen in their cricket.

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Why everyone discussing the Asia Cup here? This thread was designated for ODI cricket, and not for T20I.

A few more updates regarding the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. Tomorrow, there is going to be an ODI between Australia and Zimbabwe (2nd match in the three-match series). If Australia win the two remaining matches, they will end up with 100 points, and that will ensure their qualification to the next year's world cup. Anyway, it is just a formality now. The more interesting series is the one between India and South Africa, starting in October. South Africa needs to win at least one match.

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Quote from: CPNpr on August 28, 2022, 08:51:01 PM

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They did not do well in the first match. Expectation was more than they have done. Due to low scores from the good players, total run in the match was very low. However, It was the first ODI match between Zimbabwe and Australia in the series. Australia win the match by five wickets. In the next match Zimbabwe may be able to do better.

Pakistan and India are playing in Dubai.
Pakistan has made 148 and India is not batting at 12/1 - the stadium is full there are lots of blue shirt in stadium too. Let's enjoy the match

Bad news for Pakistan players that they lost against Indian players. If Pakistan players come into the game with a bit of focus, they don't feel that they have to lose against India, but it is a big bad news for Pakistan. i think

With the respect I am feeling you are on wrong thread because yesterday we have no ODI this was a T20 game and both teams play very good with India was well-prepared, and they have done good homework before start of the game just because of this they won this match with just two balls were remaining in match which mean we have very interesting match where both teams fight till end and then India won this match.

Indian bowlers done good job and not allow Pakistani batsmen to play freely which was turning point of this game specially Hardik Pandya and Bhuvneshwar Kumar both were on their target in bowling then Hardik Pandya gave good stand in batting which gives them a hard fought win in second game of this Asia Cup.

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