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hero member
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July 09, 2013, 10:05:36 AM
I just added these guys to bitcoinscammers.com  Anyone who got scammed I encourage you to protect other users with telling your story.  

You're a plum, and you've just discredited the entire purpose of your site by adding a company devoid of any proof of it really being a scam.

Your site also missing every other verified scam on this forum!?

You're about as knowledgable of scams as Bitcoin Megastore, and your site is about as attractive, purposeful and successful as his Megastore...

Hey mindless stupid fuck, still posting around here even though you have no clue about anything and can't smell a scam? What have you achieved
here so far? Nothing good. You may think your stupid posts have some value but they are waste of time, space and energy. You may think you are
helping this community but you are doing it massive damage due to the fact you are mindless stupid fuck mostly luring people into scams. Let's see,
how many scams have you labeled as such? None. Are you selling something that benefits Bitcoin or offer some services for bitcoins? No. Are you
contributing to Bitcoin by accepting some jobs for bitcoins, maybe? No.

To sum it up, this community and Bitcoin would be better without you.

Bitcoin Megastore is massively successful business given all the issues it has (no BTC payment as major one) and level of retardation around here.

Roll Eyes

Riiight, seeing as my posting history here starts with me calling out Asic-rigs.com and Cedartec.net that pretty much invalidates the majority of the above post as it's provable by looking at my posting history.

It's not for me to say for sure whether anyone found the fact I paid for a ticket to Stockholm out of my own pocket and wrote an amusing piece on a little adventure. It certainly helped me make a decision I'm yet to regret.

Terrahash blatantly has not set out to a scam unless they really intended deceive whilst undertaking masses of unnecessary admin and office hire, pcb production and provable purchase of Avalon chips. As well a meet people face to face and look them in the eye.

Your posting history just details a total loon that calls absolutely everything a scam.

Your site speaks for itself.

And no one here has any trust awarded since the function was added a month ago and applies to sales made between members within the forum and subsequent feedback given. Go look to JohnK for positive trust feedback as he serves most escrow taking place here. But it's cool it's just another detail you have yet to read up and educate yourself about...

legendary
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July 09, 2013, 09:55:39 AM
With the new chip order secured.  How does that effect the people around the 20,000 chip count on the list?

Another junior member support.   I don't think anyone has seen proof they truly secured the chips.  They said they did..... but securing a early chip batch when they said they did is not easy unless they paid a premium to someone.

Again TH please prove me wrong.  I hope i am wrong.  I just am not a believer after by experience with them.
legendary
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July 09, 2013, 09:52:57 AM
Some good news from bkkcoins (Klondike supplier)

He is how using "4 chips hashing 1200 GH/s."  (I'm not sure if 1200 GH/s is correct.  I think it should be 1200 MH?)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bkkcoins-29155

BKK has had this for a bit now..... TH still has not produced proof of anything.
sr. member
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July 09, 2013, 09:44:43 AM
Some good news from bkkcoins (Klondike supplier)

He is how using "4 chips hashing 1200 GH/s."  (I'm not sure if 1200 GH/s is correct.  I think it should be 1200 MH?)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bkkcoins-29155
legendary
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July 09, 2013, 09:22:21 AM
Ok. I will go and visit their office on wednesday or thursday. I'm suffering with kidney stones, but I will go and take pictures and video. I originally wanted to go in a couple of weeks to see them "in production". I'll go earlier to quell the mob and preserve my investment. I don't want to get negative, but please do not ride me. I am an ex-cop, martial arts instructor, and veteran forex currency invesment manager. I don't tell you this to puff myself up. I want you to understand who you are dealing with. I don't take well to being pushed by people and I stick by my word. Please be patient for a couple of days and I'll give you guys a report on what I find. One of the main reasons I am doing this, is because I don't want anyone to jeopardize my orders with TH. If I can sooth everyone's nerves and calm you down, maybe you will allow these guys to do what we have paid them to do. I know that they have not been as communicative as many would like. However, could you imagine how stressful it would be to deal with such a high maintenance client base?

When I was trading forex for a living, I used to tell clients not to invest money that they could not afford to lose. Some did not listen to me, and were calling me for updates every day, terrified and needing reassurance. It made me hate my job, and after 10 years, I decided to restrict trading to professional clients alone. This is a risk intensive market we are invested in. If you can't afford to lose the money you're putting into it, I would recommend staying with something safer. "You don't invest your rent money" is what I always used to say. Once again, I am not saying what to do one way or the other, but I am seeing this transaction through. If they come through with my boards in the general time frame promised, I will most likely buy more. Who knows, maybe they will start building BFL based boards in the future if our batches come through. So, please take a breath and wait until I report what I find. I have to restate that I am passing kidney stones. If I can't make it on wednesday due to pain, I will go on thursday for certain. I'll take pics and video. I give you my word. Try to not worry.
Nice, but don't make commitments or promises you cant keep please. We have enough of that already from Terrahash. Your intentions sound good and all, but its just fancy talk until you actually do it. And we/I don't really care to see your life's resume posted in here. It means nothing. We all could post our credentials if we wanted, but realize it serves no purpose and would double the size of this thread. Just do it and quit talking about it. And I'm real sorry about the kidney stones, I have them twice and was the most painful experience in my life! Tomorrows weds so will you go or just keep talking about it? Shit or get off the pot Smiley Thank you.
newbie
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July 09, 2013, 09:12:12 AM
With the new chip order secured.  How does that effect the people around the 20,000 chip count on the list?
hero member
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July 09, 2013, 09:09:17 AM
Maybe these pussies will take some lessons from you kind sir and man the fuck up - if a man with no balls and invisible dick can ever man up...
Cheers and thank you for your help - you actually DO something rather than whining.
In Greek language man=ANΔPAΣ, AN-ΔPAΣ = if you act.
The opposite from pussies...

Androklis, thanks for such a useful contribution!
hero member
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July 09, 2013, 09:07:11 AM
Ok. I will go and visit their office on wednesday or thursday. I'm suffering with kidney stones, but I will go and take pictures and video. I originally wanted to go in a couple of weeks to see them "in production". I'll go earlier to quell the mob and preserve my investment. I don't want to get negative, but please do not ride me. I am an ex-cop, martial arts instructor, and veteran forex currency invesment manager. I don't tell you this to puff myself up. I want you to understand who you are dealing with. I don't take well to being pushed by people and I stick by my word. Please be patient for a couple of days and I'll give you guys a report on what I find. One of the main reasons I am doing this, is because I don't want anyone to jeopardize my orders with TH. If I can sooth everyone's nerves and calm you down, maybe you will allow these guys to do what we have paid them to do. I know that they have not been as communicative as many would like. However, could you imagine how stressful it would be to deal with such a high maintenance client base?

When I was trading forex for a living, I used to tell clients not to invest money that they could not afford to lose. Some did not listen to me, and were calling me for updates every day, terrified and needing reassurance. It made me hate my job, and after 10 years, I decided to restrict trading to professional clients alone. This is a risk intensive market we are invested in. If you can't afford to lose the money you're putting into it, I would recommend staying with something safer. "You don't invest your rent money" is what I always used to say. Once again, I am not saying what to do one way or the other, but I am seeing this transaction through. If they come through with my boards in the general time frame promised, I will most likely buy more. Who knows, maybe they will start building BFL based boards in the future if our batches come through. So, please take a breath and wait until I report what I find. I have to restate that I am passing kidney stones. If I can't make it on wednesday due to pain, I will go on thursday for certain. I'll take pics and video. I give you my word. Try to not worry.

Great message, thank you very much for your contribution!

Cryptocoin- Same goes for you, you both are a perfect example of what this thread needs. I think everyone is willing to help, in fact I read somebody offered to answer support requests, but Terrahash never got back to them.

When you invest in something, most of the time you're willing to do anything you need to in order to help the cause and protect the investment. I also agree with the fact that a constant reassurance is not something that should be expected, but broken promises don't sit well with me combined with the lack of information. I made the decision to invest here as a mitigated risk, as I was not going to go all in with BTC since my level of trust was not quite at 100%.

Keep it positive folks!
full member
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July 09, 2013, 07:19:22 AM
Just sent out an email. We have secured two additional early-may orders of Avalon ASIC chips. We now have 40,000 chips (all ordered before May 16) which are enough to process all the orders that we received during our pre-order opening. If we get the Avalon chips by the end of this month, we will ship out all the orders by Mid August.

On a separate note, the test board is hashing now. I will post pics/videos tomorrow. Have a great weekend!

Look like "tomorrow" really means in one week so far (maybe even more) ...

My translation for
we will ship out all the orders by Mid August
using same time scale would be

we will ship out all the orders by January/February 2014

legendary
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July 09, 2013, 04:45:40 AM
Ok. I will go and visit their office on wednesday or thursday. I'm suffering with kidney stones, but I will go and take pictures and video. I originally wanted to go in a couple of weeks to see them "in production". I'll go earlier to quell the mob and preserve my investment. I don't want to get negative, but please do not ride me. I am an ex-cop, martial arts instructor, and veteran forex currency invesment manager. I don't tell you this to puff myself up. I want you to understand who you are dealing with. I don't take well to being pushed by people and I stick by my word. Please be patient for a couple of days and I'll give you guys a report on what I find. One of the main reasons I am doing this, is because I don't want anyone to jeopardize my orders with TH. If I can sooth everyone's nerves and calm you down, maybe you will allow these guys to do what we have paid them to do. I know that they have not been as communicative as many would like. However, could you imagine how stressful it would be to deal with such a high maintenance client base?

When I was trading forex for a living, I used to tell clients not to invest money that they could not afford to lose. Some did not listen to me, and were calling me for updates every day, terrified and needing reassurance. It made me hate my job, and after 10 years, I decided to restrict trading to professional clients alone. This is a risk intensive market we are invested in. If you can't afford to lose the money you're putting into it, I would recommend staying with something safer. "You don't invest your rent money" is what I always used to say. Once again, I am not saying what to do one way or the other, but I am seeing this transaction through. If they come through with my boards in the general time frame promised, I will most likely buy more. Who knows, maybe they will start building BFL based boards in the future if our batches come through. So, please take a breath and wait until I report what I find. I have to restate that I am passing kidney stones. If I can't make it on wednesday due to pain, I will go on thursday for certain. I'll take pics and video. I give you my word. Try to not worry.
Maybe these pussies will take some lessons from you kind sir and man the fuck up - if a man with no balls and invisible dick can ever man up...
Cheers and thank you for your help - you actually DO something rather than whining.
In Greek language man=ANΔPAΣ, AN-ΔPAΣ = if you act.
The opposite from pussies...

I might add that ones most inclined to bitch and whine incessantly are the one's least likely to credit your tip jar for your kindness and effort. I speak from experience here, so I hope you become the exception.

If the guy goes, and casts his experienced eye, and reports back, despite the significant pain he is in, you better at least tip him a drink or two!

It's easy to complain on a forum.
I will tip my first BTC mined with TH to him!
hero member
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July 09, 2013, 04:27:56 AM
Ok. I will go and visit their office on wednesday or thursday. I'm suffering with kidney stones, but I will go and take pictures and video. I originally wanted to go in a couple of weeks to see them "in production". I'll go earlier to quell the mob and preserve my investment. I don't want to get negative, but please do not ride me. I am an ex-cop, martial arts instructor, and veteran forex currency invesment manager. I don't tell you this to puff myself up. I want you to understand who you are dealing with. I don't take well to being pushed by people and I stick by my word. Please be patient for a couple of days and I'll give you guys a report on what I find. One of the main reasons I am doing this, is because I don't want anyone to jeopardize my orders with TH. If I can sooth everyone's nerves and calm you down, maybe you will allow these guys to do what we have paid them to do. I know that they have not been as communicative as many would like. However, could you imagine how stressful it would be to deal with such a high maintenance client base?

When I was trading forex for a living, I used to tell clients not to invest money that they could not afford to lose. Some did not listen to me, and were calling me for updates every day, terrified and needing reassurance. It made me hate my job, and after 10 years, I decided to restrict trading to professional clients alone. This is a risk intensive market we are invested in. If you can't afford to lose the money you're putting into it, I would recommend staying with something safer. "You don't invest your rent money" is what I always used to say. Once again, I am not saying what to do one way or the other, but I am seeing this transaction through. If they come through with my boards in the general time frame promised, I will most likely buy more. Who knows, maybe they will start building BFL based boards in the future if our batches come through. So, please take a breath and wait until I report what I find. I have to restate that I am passing kidney stones. If I can't make it on wednesday due to pain, I will go on thursday for certain. I'll take pics and video. I give you my word. Try to not worry.
Maybe these pussies will take some lessons from you kind sir and man the fuck up - if a man with no balls and invisible dick can ever man up...
Cheers and thank you for your help - you actually DO something rather than whining.
In Greek language man=ANΔPAΣ, AN-ΔPAΣ = if you act.
The opposite from pussies...

I might add that ones most inclined to bitch and whine incessantly are the one's least likely to credit your tip jar for your kindness and effort. I speak from experience here, so I hope you become the exception.

If the guy goes, and casts his experienced eye, and reports back, despite the significant pain he is in, you better at least tip him a drink or two!

It's easy to complain on a forum.
sr. member
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Sugars.zone | DatingFi - Earn for Posting
July 09, 2013, 04:10:31 AM

Does this thread not constitute a room?

I'll leave it for someone else to work out.  Wink
newbie
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July 09, 2013, 03:10:25 AM
Ok. I will go and visit their office on wednesday or thursday.

This is a very positive development.

knightlife999, thank you very much for making this effort; especially when dealing with kidney stones.
I very much look forward to your report.

And a speedy recovery!

The pair of you should get a room !!  Grin

EDIT : three of you

Agreed.  Terrahash, if there is anything that the community can to do help, I'm sure you will get an overwhelming response if you were to ask.


Does this thread not constitute a room?
sr. member
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Sugars.zone | DatingFi - Earn for Posting
July 09, 2013, 03:09:21 AM
Official TerraHash representative here.

In order to be classified as a "scam", we have to be accepting money from you. All the folks who have contacted us since this morning, asking to place a pre-order, we have told them that we are not accepting any orders until we have something to ship.

Regarding the address, its not an alley, it is a wharehouse/retail space. It is for rent (see link below[1]). We are in the process of finalizing the lease. We don't have anything to do yet, as we all know Avalon has not released the specs yet. We will be buying the chips boards in bulk from BkkCoins (we are already in talks with him). We are already in talks with different suppliers for the components (again waiting for the Klondike design to be finished). We have already ordered automatic assembly machines (solder paste dispensers, SMT pick and place, reflow oven etc.).

The reason we went ahead with the press release so early is to gain hold in this market that is going to get very competitive soon.

I won't be replying to this thread anymore, and will be starting a new really official thread.

Thanks all.

[1] http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/off/3742997789.html

Can you get a pic of terra next to his PnP with his k16 board on top hashing, please,  Thankyou.
legendary
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July 09, 2013, 02:34:32 AM
Ok. I will go and visit their office on wednesday or thursday. I'm suffering with kidney stones, but I will go and take pictures and video. I originally wanted to go in a couple of weeks to see them "in production". I'll go earlier to quell the mob and preserve my investment. I don't want to get negative, but please do not ride me. I am an ex-cop, martial arts instructor, and veteran forex currency invesment manager. I don't tell you this to puff myself up. I want you to understand who you are dealing with. I don't take well to being pushed by people and I stick by my word. Please be patient for a couple of days and I'll give you guys a report on what I find. One of the main reasons I am doing this, is because I don't want anyone to jeopardize my orders with TH. If I can sooth everyone's nerves and calm you down, maybe you will allow these guys to do what we have paid them to do. I know that they have not been as communicative as many would like. However, could you imagine how stressful it would be to deal with such a high maintenance client base?

When I was trading forex for a living, I used to tell clients not to invest money that they could not afford to lose. Some did not listen to me, and were calling me for updates every day, terrified and needing reassurance. It made me hate my job, and after 10 years, I decided to restrict trading to professional clients alone. This is a risk intensive market we are invested in. If you can't afford to lose the money you're putting into it, I would recommend staying with something safer. "You don't invest your rent money" is what I always used to say. Once again, I am not saying what to do one way or the other, but I am seeing this transaction through. If they come through with my boards in the general time frame promised, I will most likely buy more. Who knows, maybe they will start building BFL based boards in the future if our batches come through. So, please take a breath and wait until I report what I find. I have to restate that I am passing kidney stones. If I can't make it on wednesday due to pain, I will go on thursday for certain. I'll take pics and video. I give you my word. Try to not worry.
Maybe these pussies will take some lessons from you kind sir and man the fuck up - if a man with no balls and invisible dick can ever man up...
Cheers and thank you for your help - you actually DO something rather than whining.
In Greek language man=ANΔPAΣ, AN-ΔPAΣ = if you act.
The opposite from pussies...
sr. member
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Sugars.zone | DatingFi - Earn for Posting
July 09, 2013, 02:24:22 AM
Ok. I will go and visit their office on wednesday or thursday.

This is a very positive development.

knightlife999, thank you very much for making this effort; especially when dealing with kidney stones.
I very much look forward to your report.

And a speedy recovery!

The pair of you should get a room !!  Grin

EDIT : three of you

Agreed.  Terrahash, if there is anything that the community can to do help, I'm sure you will get an overwhelming response if you were to ask.

newbie
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July 09, 2013, 01:44:34 AM
Ok. I will go and visit their office on wednesday or thursday.

This is a very positive development.

knightlife999, thank you very much for making this effort; especially when dealing with kidney stones.
I very much look forward to your report.

And a speedy recovery!
hero member
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Whale Watchers and Pinnacle Brilliance founder
July 09, 2013, 01:00:30 AM
Ok. I will go and visit their office on wednesday or thursday. I'm suffering with kidney stones, but I will go and take pictures and video. I originally wanted to go in a couple of weeks to see them "in production". I'll go earlier to quell the mob and preserve my investment. I don't want to get negative, but please do not ride me. I am an ex-cop, martial arts instructor, and veteran forex currency invesment manager. I don't tell you this to puff myself up. I want you to understand who you are dealing with. I don't take well to being pushed by people and I stick by my word. Please be patient for a couple of days and I'll give you guys a report on what I find. One of the main reasons I am doing this, is because I don't want anyone to jeopardize my orders with TH. If I can sooth everyone's nerves and calm you down, maybe you will allow these guys to do what we have paid them to do. I know that they have not been as communicative as many would like. However, could you imagine how stressful it would be to deal with such a high maintenance client base?

When I was trading forex for a living, I used to tell clients not to invest money that they could not afford to lose. Some did not listen to me, and were calling me for updates every day, terrified and needing reassurance. It made me hate my job, and after 10 years, I decided to restrict trading to professional clients alone. This is a risk intensive market we are invested in. If you can't afford to lose the money you're putting into it, I would recommend staying with something safer. "You don't invest your rent money" is what I always used to say. Once again, I am not saying what to do one way or the other, but I am seeing this transaction through. If they come through with my boards in the general time frame promised, I will most likely buy more. Who knows, maybe they will start building BFL based boards in the future if our batches come through. So, please take a breath and wait until I report what I find. I have to restate that I am passing kidney stones. If I can't make it on wednesday due to pain, I will go on thursday for certain. I'll take pics and video. I give you my word. Try to not worry.
newbie
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July 09, 2013, 12:48:48 AM

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To Terrahash,

Please post screen shots of all 4 orders with Avalon.  This obviously makes a very large impact on order ship date estimates.  Publicizing any workplan (gantt charts, spreadhseets, etc.) you are working to would also be very helpful.  Transparency is key here if you want to stop getting Paypal claim notices in your inbox. 

In fact, If you are running into any problems I'm sure some of your customers would be more than willing to aid in any way they can since it means they will be getting their miner sooner.  All you have to do is ask.


Agreed.  Terrahash, if there is anything that the community can to do help, I'm sure you will get an overwhelming response if you were to ask.
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July 08, 2013, 10:56:59 PM
PLEASE READ GUYS"
You all know, as a whole, we represent quite a bit of buying power. According to Cryptoin (our handy in house accountant)  Cheesy thats about 600,000- thats a lot of chips! what 20k+ . This is just food for thought, there are others who are successfully creating co-ops (cooperatives) and buying groups etc. I am not an expert on this, but know of someone who is in the forums. We are all facing the same dilemma,,,we want to mine, but need new gear, ASICS. we can keep getting dicked around with start up companys like this one, or move on to another one, and wait and wait  only to see the difficulty level out run getting our machines, ultimately with not a whole lot of money in it as there was when ordered. Anyways, if someone MAYBE CRYPTOIN? wants to create a new thread for any of us who perhaps would be interested in a co-op, (effort) then we can at least put our name in the hat. if we can identify a key experienced person to lead it and help point us in the right directions to make getting asics a reality quicker, and more affordable, then where we seem to be at now. So before we all cancel and disband from this thread, and chance our money somewhere else lets at least put out names together in a new thread, just in case we see an avenue to to work together in getting our own boards/miners produced ( or join in with another successful co-op ) It may sound crazy, but if theres enough interest, I will PM the best man I know in the forums for guidance and see if its even do-able. He works closely with bkkcoins and heads his own co-op and is doing it right!  ok, post some comments if you at least would be interested,,,no commitments required, but while we are all still here in this thread with as much power as we have,,it may be worth exploring. Cryptoin, if your reading this ,,,and enough want to stay informed, please help us with a new thread,,you are good at this stuff..me I'm just a thinker and a dreamer Smiley maybe call it the "600k cooperative" j/k we can work on that later. Ok., The one person Im thinking of paid us a brief visit in here last night and saw what we are going through...you will see his post responding back to mine yesterday. He is the man, and he mentioned why not look into our own cooperative? enough said gang. Open for ideas and suggestions..

Sorry to take so long to get back to you on this subject of putting together a Co-op I have been rather busy the past few days.  I am not completely opposed to the idea but I don't think it would a be a wise choice to start an Avalon chip based miner co-op at this point in the game for the following reasons:

1. I don't see a path here that would allow those who placed orders with Terrahash to pull funding, commit it to a Co-op, find an early Avalon chip order to support and develop/manufacture boards in a timely manner. 

2. Assuming the statements made recently by TH are true regarding finding 2 additional early may chip orders than this makes even less sense.

3. I don't believe TH is a complete scam I just think they are inexperienced when it comes to running/managing a business properly in a fast paced environment and it has resulted in a clear lack of true professionalism. 

Anyone with any business experience knows it is always much better to under promise and over deliver, however I imagine they are cracking under the pressure of their customers wanting to see results and they are not where they wanted to be so they continue to set and communicate deadlines for themselves that they cannot meet.  Unfortunately that does not bode well for our delivery dates but I don't have any doubt that they will deliver eventually.

To Terrahash,

Please post screen shots of all 4 orders with Avalon.  This obviously makes a very large impact on order ship date estimates.  Publicizing any workplan (gantt charts, spreadhseets, etc.) you are working to would also be very helpful.  Transparency is key here if you want to stop getting Paypal claim notices in your inbox. 

In fact, If you are running into any problems I'm sure some of your customers would be more than willing to aid in any way they can since it means they will be getting their miner sooner.  All you have to do is ask.
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