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Quote from: MinermanNC on June 22, 2013, 08:54:56 AM

Terrahash did the right and wise thing by out of stocking the products page for now. They surely dont want to become like BFL, and get in that rut.

Still wonder how they will proritize who gets in on first batch. Could be by account registration dates, or who paid in full first, or who paid and how....or by actual order que. They may just start shipping us all at once as they have said the second batch of chips should be coming in shortley after first batch, making everyone basically ship within the same time frame. They do still have a lot of work to do prior to the chips arrivng and actually getting the final boards ready for production. So maybe we are all in the first so called batch?...lol that would sure keep a lot of the squabbling down in here......and there in box quiet.....

They already indicated that shipping will be based on paid order queue. Those in the queue had until this weekend to pay to hold their place in line.

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Terrahash did the right and wise thing by out of stocking the products page for now. They surely dont want to become like BFL, and get in that rut.

Still wonder how they will proritize who gets in on first batch. Could be by account registration dates, or who paid in full first, or who paid and how....or by actual order que. They may just start shipping us all at once as they have said the second batch of chips should be coming in shortley after first batch, making everyone basically ship within the same time frame. They do still have a lot of work to do prior to the chips arrivng and actually getting the final boards ready for production. So maybe we are all in the first so called batch?...lol that would sure keep a lot of the squabbling down in here......and there in box quiet.....

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Great I have my order paid and wait 59@

bebfoo

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No more orders, chips all accounted for:

https://terrahash.com/not-taking-any-more-orders/

Now for the chips to ship & K-16 to be finished!!

Can't wait! Difficulty climbing...

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on June 21, 2013, 12:46:57 PM

Quote from: bebfoo on June 21, 2013, 12:38:31 PM

Quote from: newguy05 on June 21, 2013, 12:02:58 PM

Quote from: bebfoo on June 21, 2013, 11:21:58 AM

If you all aren't watching BkkCoins thread on the K-16 development and testing, I'd recommend it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.1620

The work on this board is likely the biggest factor in determining TH ship date.

The board is a factor but in my opinion it is not the biggest factor by a long shot. The biggest factor is asic actually shipping their chips instead of keep bull****ing us with their dog and pony show trying to delay it further while they mines more. I have zero trust in that shady outfit.

Yes, the chips are a factor, but they shipped samples, and will profit bigtime from selling as many chips as they can, so...

Errr...they'll 'profit bigtime' easier if they delay the competition they are about to supply themselves with!

Maybe, maybe not. Keep in mind that chip sales will slow if they don't ship on a reasonable time frame. Moreover, its very hard to calculate the Net present value of these chips over the next few months, let alone years as there is no telling where difficulty will be. Keep in mind that BFL is also offering chips now, you know of KNC miner, and there will be more outfits to arise in the near future as well.

I think the safe and smart move for Avalon is to ship ASAP; most businesses would agree also. The possible reward with holding and using chips is very high, but so is the risk factor....I can't really put a number on it due to the amount of unknowns in the equation, but neither can you...and neither can Avalon...so the best move is to take money in the hand.

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on June 21, 2013, 12:46:57 PM

Errr...they'll 'profit bigtime' easier if they delay the competition they are about to supply themselves with!

Yeah, true. Either way Avalon wins. :-/

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Quote from: bebfoo on June 21, 2013, 12:38:31 PM

Quote from: newguy05 on June 21, 2013, 12:02:58 PM

Quote from: bebfoo on June 21, 2013, 11:21:58 AM

If you all aren't watching BkkCoins thread on the K-16 development and testing, I'd recommend it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.1620

The work on this board is likely the biggest factor in determining TH ship date.

The board is a factor but in my opinion it is not the biggest factor by a long shot. The biggest factor is asic actually shipping their chips instead of keep bull****ing us with their dog and pony show trying to delay it further while they mines more. I have zero trust in that shady outfit.

Yes, the chips are a factor, but they shipped samples, and will profit bigtime from selling as many chips as they can, so...

Errr...they'll 'profit bigtime' easier if they delay the competition they are about to supply themselves with!

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Quote from: newguy05 on June 21, 2013, 12:02:58 PM

Quote from: bebfoo on June 21, 2013, 11:21:58 AM

If you all aren't watching BkkCoins thread on the K-16 development and testing, I'd recommend it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.1620

The work on this board is likely the biggest factor in determining TH ship date.

The board is a factor but in my opinion it is not the biggest factor by a long shot. The biggest factor is asic actually shipping their chips instead of keep bull****ing us with their dog and pony show trying to delay it further while they mines more. I have zero trust in that shady outfit.

Yes, the chips are a factor, but they shipped samples, and will profit bigtime from selling as many chips as they can, so...

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Quote from: newguy05 on June 21, 2013, 12:02:58 PM

Quote from: bebfoo on June 21, 2013, 11:21:58 AM

If you all aren't watching BkkCoins thread on the K-16 development and testing, I'd recommend it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.1620

The work on this board is likely the biggest factor in determining TH ship date.

The board is a factor but in my opinion it is not the biggest factor by a long shot. The biggest factor is asic actually shipping their chips instead of keep bull****ing us with their dog and pony show trying to delay it further while they mines more. I have zero trust in that shady outfit.

Avalon, or Terrahash?

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Someone is sitting in the shade today...

Quote from: bebfoo on June 21, 2013, 11:21:58 AM

If you all aren't watching BkkCoins thread on the K-16 development and testing, I'd recommend it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.1620

The work on this board is likely the biggest factor in determining TH ship date.

The board is a factor but in my opinion it is not the biggest factor by a long shot. The biggest factor is asic actually shipping their chips instead of keep bull****ing us with their dog and pony show trying to delay it further while they mines more. I have zero trust in that shady outfit.

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It's going to take some time. Most likely they will need to update the PC board with a few design fixes.

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Quote from: bebfoo on June 21, 2013, 11:21:58 AM

If you all aren't watching BkkCoins thread on the K-16 development and testing, I'd recommend it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.1620

The work on this board is likely the biggest factor in determining TH ship date.

Yes, I very much agree. Board development is my biggest concern. TH emailed me yesterday (answering a question) and said they are working on a support site for the K boards and its operation etc. But Im still waitng to see the board in action..... up and running and hashing!

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Quote from: ?? on ??

We will be canceling at 6pm today, all wire-transfer orders placed on Tuesday, for which we don't receive a wire by today evening. Only in very rare cases (mostly where the wire is coming from out of the country) we will restore orders if the wire comes in on Monday or Tuesday. All other wires coming next week will be returned. We also won't change shipping address and/or email addresses associated with an account (except for rare cases). We will compile all the order data during the weekend, and on Monday we will send out an email to all the customers letting them know whether their order falls within the first batch of 20,000 chips or the 2nd batch.

Couldn't ask for clearer than that!

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thank you for the update

Quote from: ?? on ??

We will be canceling at 6pm today, all wire-transfer orders placed on Tuesday, for which we don't receive a wire by today evening. Only in very rare cases (mostly where the wire is coming from out of the country) we will restore orders if the wire comes in on Monday or Tuesday. All other wires coming next week will be returned. We also won't change shipping address and/or email addresses associated with an account (except for rare cases). We will compile all the order data during the weekend, and on Monday we will send out an email to all the customers letting them know whether their order falls within the first batch of 20,000 chips or the 2nd batch.

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If you all aren't watching BkkCoins thread on the K-16 development and testing, I'd recommend it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.1620

The work on this board is likely the biggest factor in determining TH ship date.

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international bank wire transfers can take sometimes up to 4-5 bank working days ... :-)

for example ... the ordering started ... on tuesday ... night in europe ...

payments would have get off the customer bank on wednesday ... so to capture

all legit payments they will have to wait at least the start of the next week.

i asked for the time slot available for payment ... with bank wire ...

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Quote from: ampu on June 21, 2013, 08:30:51 AM

Quote from: bsuperior2 on June 21, 2013, 08:22:53 AM

Don't forget they are in CA. 6:24AM still

Startupers never sleep, do they?

No, but they do occasionaly pass out due to system overload

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Quote from: Silvas on June 21, 2013, 09:31:50 AM

Quote from: chanberg on June 21, 2013, 08:48:32 AM

Quote from: MinermanNC on June 21, 2013, 08:32:11 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on June 21, 2013, 08:07:46 AM

Any updates from TerraHash?

Today they said any unpaid orders would be cancelled ( mostly wire transfers) I assume. I would think that these unpaid orders are probably in part the folks who ordered simply to resell on ebay etc. I would think that if they couldnt raise enough $$ in their pre order sales...they will be the first to cancel out orders etc. I know one guy has a fully loaded DX LG. for $13,200 4 hrs left and no bids.... so.. and they are the ones that are screwing us miners up in getting ours. His order # is 769 by the way.......

hopefully nobody bids on it! i am order 778, and this screws me royally haha

Well since the only orders that were allowed to sit without payment were wire transfer orders, which generally take a little time to go through (most banks from my understanding don't offer faster than a 1 day), if it sells today but hasn't been funded, there won't be enough time to get it funded before the order is cancelled. So, honestly, I hope someone does bid on it and buy it, and the seller is forced to refund and back out of the transaction... teach them a lesson about putting in orders they have no intent of paying for themselves and then try to resell for profit. If you intend to resell for profit, fine, but at least have the decency to float your own capital ffs.

Exactly, I agree. I will post back with the results of that DX LG auction. 3hrs and 45 mins left..lol who knows he may be in this forum watching and reading as well?.. heh"
Who knows he very well may have paid for it however? more power to him if he did i guess....but that sure puts a huge dent in chip count going forward 770 and up, if so

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Quote from: chanberg on June 21, 2013, 08:48:32 AM

Quote from: MinermanNC on June 21, 2013, 08:32:11 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on June 21, 2013, 08:07:46 AM

Any updates from TerraHash?

Today they said any unpaid orders would be cancelled ( mostly wire transfers) I assume. I would think that these unpaid orders are probably in part the folks who ordered simply to resell on ebay etc. I would think that if they couldnt raise enough $$ in their pre order sales...they will be the first to cancel out orders etc. I know one guy has a fully loaded DX LG. for $13,200 4 hrs left and no bids.... so.. and they are the ones that are screwing us miners up in getting ours. His order # is 769 by the way.......

hopefully nobody bids on it! i am order 778, and this screws me royally haha

Well since the only orders that were allowed to sit without payment were wire transfer orders, which generally take a little time to go through (most banks from my understanding don't offer faster than a 1 day), if it sells today but hasn't been funded, there won't be enough time to get it funded before the order is cancelled. So, honestly, I hope someone does bid on it and buy it, and the seller is forced to refund and back out of the transaction... teach them a lesson about putting in orders they have no intent of paying for themselves and then try to resell for profit. If you intend to resell for profit, fine, but at least have the decency to float your own capital ffs.

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Quote from: chanberg on June 21, 2013, 08:48:32 AM

Quote from: MinermanNC on June 21, 2013, 08:32:11 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on June 21, 2013, 08:07:46 AM

Any updates from TerraHash?

Today they said any unpaid orders would be cancelled ( mostly wire transfers) I assume. I would think that these unpaid orders are probably in part the folks who ordered simply to resell on ebay etc. I would think that if they couldnt raise enough $$ in their pre order sales...they will be the first to cancel out orders etc. I know one guy has a fully loaded DX LG. for $13,200 4 hrs left and no bids.... so.. and they are the ones that are screwing us miners up in getting ours. His order # is 769 by the way.......

hopefully nobody bids on it! i am order 778, and this screws me royally haha

Nah, nobody wants pre-orders off eBay. eBay certainly don't want pre-orders listed there. The only way to profit with eBay is have an actual physical, tangible item to sell and stop dicking peeps around!

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