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Not according to Woocommerce documentation. The order-ID is created when the checkout process is complete.

But I agree nothing nefarious.

As soon as you add an item to your cart, the system will create a new orderid for you.

There is nothing nefarious or dubious about this practice, and is quite common in the industry.

Here is someting else as well. In my order attempts I had 10 invoice # issued starting with 502. Due to the lag or other issues with paypal, I had to start from scratch, a new order, and attempt to pay with paypal again and again until finally it went thru. So, in the end I had 2 actual invoice numbers that were paid and the other 7 invoice numbers were cancelled by me in all the previous order attempts. my highest order was 797, so minus 7 from that, I could have been 791. My thought is, how many other invoice numbers were issued by others attempting to order again and hence, cancelled the earlier attempts as I did. It has been said that many had issues getting paypal to go thru. ok, just food for thought in here

Thats exactly what i was thinking. Just like when you create a website, you can set the hit counter where ever you want...

This is very logik !

 Maybe, or they might of been testing the Order system before they unleashed us upon it. 

You might want to read this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.1600  by the person who is developing the board.  I assume TH is waiting for him to validate the design. Its not ready yet, there are issues with the prototype boards.

terrahash, what's the status on assembling and testing the 1st K16 board?

Yes, TH, any new start up will have bumps...lets just hope you get the chips and start pumping out them mining boards for us all! Please dont let things get out of control and become like BFL. You would be better to out of stock items for a while then to except more orders and dig yourself into a hole. Im glad to see you defending yourself against the cloudhashing statements as they are discrediting. Please just keep us all posted and be realistic. 

100 RSD (serbian dinar) if you send me chips i do it for free

priceless

I have also assembled  K1 USB board, 


Tomorrow starts preorder...

Yes will be great

Just keep pressing ahead, terrahash.

If you can deliver the first batch of miners in July, I'd say your venture is a smashing success!

Bkk has received sample chips, and TH has received sample chips.
Bkk has already identified a problem with the K16 board, the vcc power to the pic controller is not connected.  That will mean a board rework.  TH has already assembled a populated k16 board, so hopefully they can recover the sample chips off that board and reuse them on another updated board.  Or maybe they'll find a workaround.
The firmware and cgminer drivers are not yet fully developed, so software work is ongoing.

Delivery will hinge on when avalon delivers chips, when the board design is finalized and all issues ironed out, and the software is done.  The potential does exist for this to drag out for a long time, if they keep identifying issues in the board and have to do reworks (like has reportedly happened with bfl) and if the software work takes longer than expected.

From what I can see, BFLs mistake was largely hubris.  They grossly overestimated what they could deliver in a given timeframe, and made promises they could not keep.  At that point, pride joined the list of transgressions.  Instead of openly admitting that they overreached and made a huge mistake on how difficult the development was going to be and how long it would take them to work things out, they continued to give estimates based on what I believe were best case scenarios, and giving people unrealistic expectations.
I'm seeing a lot of statements from TH that indicate that they might be making some of the same mistakes.  The timeframes they're giving seem awfully tight, and the fact that they don't usually mention the possibilities that problems are found with board designs requiring rework, or possibility that software development holds things up; the only thing I usually see them mentioning is if avalon doesn't deliver the chips on time.  That could give people the expectation that as long as the chips are delivered on time as expected, everything will be great and they'll get their units quickly.  This has the potential to turn into another BFL situation all over again.  Will it?  I don't know, but the potential is there, particularly if people have their expectations set unreasonably high due to statements from TH that don't brutally set people's expectations firmly where they belong - we believe this will be a short process, but any of these X things could prove us wrong and hold this up.

That being said, I have ordered 2 units from TH, and I do hope that it all goes well and the way they seem to think it will.  I'm not here to naysay or scare people away, or say anything negative about TH; I'm just giving a brutally honest view of what I see and what I think

Q. any ETA for one of your products ?
A. We are still waiting for Avalon to release the specs. As soon as they do it, BkkCoins will hopefully finish the design and be able to send us some boards within 7-10 days, or we will try to get some manufactured locally here in Bay Area. The turn around time for boards is usually 3-4 days. So we hope we will have boards in 2 weeks. After that we will do some testing for about 2 weeks. Basically within a month, we will be ready to assemble and ship upto 250 boards a day, given that we have the Avalon chips. Now that is a big variable, we have no idea when we will get the chips. However we will start taking orders for the assembly service, so that in case you receive your chips, you can send them over to us and we will start assembling your boards.

I am pretty sure they are in the testing phase right now.

Go read the OP

Let's pretend I'm the first person on the batch. What other factors do we need? The answer can't be 10 years from now so where is the guesses that people have that make then wanna buy this to be profitable.

that all depends on a LOT of factors, mostly when they get the chips.  First we need to know who got in the first batch.