Topic: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread - page 171. (Read 565240 times)

Had yesterday a talk with a guy visited bitmine. He said, that they cant start shipping due to problems in production. In a short summary it means, there is a huge delay. There are thousends of orders and in the end its going to be a much huger mess as it was with bfl.

At the end of february some hundreads pieces can be made, probably in best case.

march orders can not be made up before july or august.

Eat it or not. But DONT scream around like pragnant female dogs.

Had yesterday a talk with a guy visited bitmine. He said, that they cant start shipping due to problems in production. In a short summary it means, there is a huge delay. There are thousends of orders and in the end its going to be a much huger mess as it was with bfl.

At the end of february some hundreads pieces can be made, probably in best case.

march orders can not be made up before july or august.

Eat it or not. But DONT scream around like pragnant female dogs.

Had yesterday a talk with a guy visited bitmine. He said, that they cant start shipping due to problems in production. In a short summary it means, there is a huge delay. There are thousends of orders and in the end its going to be a much huger mess as it was with bfl.

At the end of february some hundreads pieces can be made, probably in best case.

march orders can not be made up before july or august.

Eat it or not. But DONT scream around like pragnant female dogs.

Had yesterday a talk with a guy visited bitmine. He said, that they cant start shipping due to problems in production. In a short summary it means, there is a huge delay. There are thousends of orders and in the end its going to be a much huger mess as it was with bfl.

At the end of february some hundreads pieces can be made, probably in best case.

march orders can not be made up before july or august.

Eat it or not. But DONT scream around like pragnant female dogs.

well have bitmine shipped anyone`s order yet ?

Well yes, if you go to the length of faking your identity so you can game the system... but that does tell more about your character and has little to do with how bitmine order system works. :-)

What, are you going to send a device to your moms adress?  

jk

In a way your both wrong...

If i create two different users and place 1 order en both you would get the bonus on both orders....

So if you order 2x200 GH/z on two different profiles on two different addresses and the smallest upgrade is 200 GH/z then you would get two time 200GH/z upgrade... total= 800Gh/z....

Just saying

I'm calling bullshit on that, or you just don't understand what the guy was saying.

There is no way legally that would stand up, it doesn't even stand up logically.

There is no logical difference is between placing a single ORDER for 10 miners vs placing 10 X ORDER for 1 MINER on each ORDER

e.g. 1 Miner = 100GH

In the first instance (1 order for 10 miners) you get 10% of the total order more hashing power if they are late, so 10 x 100 = 1000GH + 10% = 1100GH

In the second instance (10 orders for 1 miner each) on each order you would get 100GH + 10 % = 110GH x 10 orders = 1100GH

Its the same, regardless of how you order it.

Its none of their business how you place the orders, all at once or one at a time, you get the same amount of compensation.

Rudimentary math.

Its the same, regardless of how you order it.

Its none of their business how you place the orders, all at once or one at a time, you get the same amount of compensation.

Rudimentary math.

Definitely not.

Just take the written language of their advertizement and apply it like a lawyer would.

Don't assume anything, just read what they write. (don't consider any sales pitch you were told by the support, just only read the words in the contract.)

"For each subsequent 10 days of late shipping, we will add for free 10% more hashing power to your order as penalty."

I asked this question in many different ways.

In the end as we played out all the possibilities he even told me, that if you thought you were "a wise guy" and made two different orders for two devices more or less simultaneously (within a few days),
you would STILL only get one bonus on one device, because they would simply JOIN those two orders and make one order out of them anyway.

So really it is COMPLETELY out of the question that you will recieve the bonus on all your devices.

I am sorry, I was mislead by the sales pitch too, but their contract language is crystal clear.

To me they said that bonus will come per device. so not really clear this stuff...

Yes it is, contrary to what I and other people previously were told or believed, the exact day is calculated like this:

You have to take the last "working day" of the week. It's often friday, but never saturday/sunday. IT'S NEVER A MONDAY like I and other people have often believed...

You take this friday and add 10 additional days. That's the day you get when CPP is triggered.

But now the fun doesn't really start yet. If you thought that now you are already owed 10% hashing power you are wrong.

There have to pass another FULL 10 days for you to get 10% additional power.

So in fact, although CPP starts to trigger, you need the CPP to be active for 10 days to have 10% plus bonus.
If CPP is active for 9 days, you still get nothing. If CPP is active for 19 days, you still get only 10%.

What that does mean is that bitmine has a full 20 days plus the shipping week, making it nearly a whole month time they can be late without you recieving ANY COMPENSATION AT ALL.

In my last phone with bitmine support I had this calculated and confirmed in 2 languages (english, greek) for like 10 times so as to be sure everything was absolutely made clear and mathematically exact.



Also, the thing about order/device. You only get the bonus for the whole order, NOT for every single device.
If your order has two devices, they will in most cases only add the bonus tb.

(Example: you ordered a 400 and a 500 Ghs device. You get 10% bonus. That would mean you get 90 Ghs bonus. So instead of 900 total, you get 990 total. So in this case they will only add a 200 Ghs modul to the coindesk. They will always take the smallest unit the can. Obviously.)

I am sorry for any misunderstanding I might have caused in a previous post here in this thread, but I was just repeating what I was told by the support.

I hope that everything is cleared up now. But I have to admit that I have a bad feeling with all this uncertainty.
So take everything with a grain of salt, people, I don't know WHAT to believe anymore.
But atleast I think I understood their CPP accuratly now. But it took a while for them to come out with exact dates (and it's just one guy from their support who told me that.)... until now everything was wishy washy, and there website STILL doesn't talk about those things in a clear language.

EDIT: I updated all previous wrong posts of mine to have a link to this post here, so as to not fool any new customers who read this thread.

Just take a PC case with you and say you are taking your PC to a friend for repair.

Leave the PC case there and come back with the miner.

Buy an empty CPU case and throw it away... but save the receipt... Provide them with that receipt for customs. They won't know any better. Even better, take one with you, before you go there... Throw it out, and take the miner back. (JK, don't defraud the GOVT's exorbitant taxes.)