Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread - page 33.

jseppeli

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Quote from: michal1 on July 07, 2014, 05:22:39 AM

Ok after 2 weeks they told almost everything.
They can not send us our money because they make another business with our money and btc.
Now they told me they don't have money because they invest in Island.

WTF?!

Its my problem that they have shit business plan? That they take money buy hardware and now they could make any refund because they invest?

Its insane! Its crazy!

They have the best business plan ever!
- make hardware promises in BTC world
- take money
- invest in hardware
- make hardware line for one big company
- put small customers in ass
- take their money and make another invest breaking all rules
- be Swiss

Now we don't have any choice.
We must cooperate together to take our money back!
They CAN NOT send money not because they don't have it. This people make another big business with OUR money! Did You really see?
Ok.
Make list of customers who want to refund and who want to pay less for lawyer and all case.

Refund CASE list:
1. michal1

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7670611

michal1

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Ok after 2 weeks they told almost everything.
They can not send us our money because they make another business with our money and btc.
Now they told me they don't have money because they invest in Island.

WTF?!

Its my problem that they have shit business plan? That they take money buy hardware and now they could make any refund because they invest?

Its insane! Its crazy!

They have the best business plan ever!
- make hardware promises in BTC world
- take money
- invest in hardware
- make hardware line for one big company
- put small customers in ass
- take their money and make another invest breaking all rules
- be Swiss

Now we don't have any choice.
We must cooperate together to take our money back!
They CAN NOT send money not because they don't have it. This people make another big business with OUR money! Did You really see?
Ok.
Make list of customers who want to refund and who want to pay less for lawyer and all case.

Refund CASE list:
1. michal1

NEMergizer

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Quote from: jseppeli on July 04, 2014, 01:44:27 PM

Quote from: NEMergizer on July 04, 2014, 01:40:42 PM

I've replaced the default PSU with a couple of ATX PSUs. The device "coin craft rig" works fine now and its amazingly silent compared to other miners.

could we get a video?

Yes, will get you a video. Will be away from the miners in the weekend. Will get you the video by Monday.

jseppeli

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Quote from: NEMergizer on July 04, 2014, 01:40:42 PM

I've replaced the default PSU with a couple of ATX PSUs. The device "coin craft rig" works fine now and its amazingly silent compared to other miners.

could we get a video?

NEMergizer

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I've replaced the default PSU with a couple of ATX PSUs. The device "coin craft rig" works fine now and its amazingly silent compared to other miners.

rmb2u

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Hi all,

I have a Coincraft Desk 1 TH for sale.

Works fine, located in the Netherlands.

Make me an offer, if you are interested.

Greetz,

RmB2u

jseppeli

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I got an answer yesterday from bitmine regarding a question about their bitcoin wallets.

They told me that the BTC wallets they have and the funds in them is reserved for the Iceland data center.

I have tried several times to find some info about the datacenter but have not found any info at all...

here is the exact answer

Quote

Kerim (Bitmine AG)
Jul 03 17:45

Ok, I got confirmation that these btc are for covering costs of the future operation. We understand it may anger you to see such an amount while we are holding your refund, but let's imagine bitmine spends all assests for refunds and closes the next day, we could refund not even half of the customers. Would you accept it?

I know this may sound unpleasant and unrealistic but bitmine and customers are currently on the same boat, and much of the possibility of refundings everyone depends on the customers being able to wait until the given estimate date, or being reasonable enough to find a compromise which doesn't involve direct payments. Refund dates estimate given to you and other customers are based on a btc value of 500$, if there aren't major other issues ahead and if the current value of 600-650$ keeps being like that if may very well be sooner.

If there is any of the proposal which might interest you let us know, otherwise I have to ask you be patient until we can process your refund. You may always contact us and ask how things are going and if the estimate date given to you holds.

Best regards,

Bitmine AG, Bitmine.ch

rmb2u

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Quote from: webiky on July 03, 2014, 04:51:52 PM

Dear Bitmine, be so kind and refund, I made order:
Order #4018 was placed on December 6, 2013 and is currently processing.
You didn´t provide miner in time, you don´t answer emails, you don´t refund, what I should think about it?
Waiting for your answer!

Probably you are on the refund queue for Oktober 2014...

webiky

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Dear Bitmine, be so kind and refund, I made order:
Order #4018 was placed on December 6, 2013 and is currently processing.
You didn´t provide miner in time, you don´t answer emails, you don´t refund, what I should think about it?
Waiting for your answer!

atta2k15

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Quote from: zadehmehdi on July 03, 2014, 07:14:45 AM

IT'S A BIG SCAM AND ALL EVIDENCE PROVES THIS.

yeah right #fail

zadehmehdi

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Dear All Victims of Bitmine,

Please make sure to gather all information posted by user "giorgiomassa" and "giorgiotheclown" to use as evidence against Giorgio Massarotto in all police and court documents. This was the advise of my lawyer as we are building a case for a lawsuit against Bitmine AG. My USA based lawyers are working with http://www.nkf.ch/ to figure out the best approach this case. I advise everyone that has been scammed by Bitmine to do the same. Bitmine doesn't intend to refund your money and/or send you a product. IT'S A BIG SCAM AND ALL EVIDENCE PROVES THIS. Thank you for your time.

SwissMiner

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.. THEY JUST SEND POWERHUNGRY OLD CRAP NOW .. I DO NOT WANT THIS HEATER IN MY HOUSE !

I WANT MY REFUND !

I recommend rejecting the package. When they ask for a signature, just tell them that you are not taking it. Send them an email/phonecall one last time to make sure they know what you are doing... they might throw a gazilliion hashs your way to stop the chance of having to pay for shipping for nothing (that stuff is expensive!)

rmb2u

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Quote from: SwissMiner on July 03, 2014, 04:00:00 AM

Quote from: rmb2u on July 03, 2014, 02:57:45 AM

They do send devices at the moment, mine will arrive today. (regarding the track and trace from UPS)

.. not sure they do send bricks with COD Grin

Hopefully golden bricks ;-) , but did not yet received anything, so we will see.

jseppeli

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Quote from: GaliX on July 03, 2014, 04:00:41 AM

Quote from: rmb2u on July 03, 2014, 02:57:45 AM

Quote from: SwissMiner on July 03, 2014, 02:40:35 AM

ANOTHER LIE?

Your request (nnnn) has been solved. To reopen this request, reply to this email.

Antonio (Bitmine AG)
Jul 02 hh:mm
Dear Sir,
tomorrow the devices will be shipped to you,
you will be receiving also an email with the tracking number.
Thanks
for your interests in our products.
Danke für Ihr Interesse an unseren Produkten.
For any questions don't hesitate to contact us. In the meantime
Für Fragen sind wir jederzeit für Sie da.
Kind regards/MfG
Customer Service

They do send devices at the moment, mine will arrive today. (regarding the track and trace from UPS)

it's actually funny that they still delay devices / steal money by refusing to refund, while building a cloud service which requires thousands of moduls.

It seems that they have lot of devices in spare because they who have posted here that the have taken order*2 instead of refund have gotten their delivery quickly.
Seem a little like they are delaying deliveries and refunds but delivering quickly if you want more devices instead of refund.

GaliX

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Quote from: rmb2u on July 03, 2014, 02:57:45 AM

Quote from: SwissMiner on July 03, 2014, 02:40:35 AM

ANOTHER LIE?

Your request (nnnn) has been solved. To reopen this request, reply to this email.

Antonio (Bitmine AG)
Jul 02 hh:mm
Dear Sir,
tomorrow the devices will be shipped to you,
you will be receiving also an email with the tracking number.
Thanks
for your interests in our products.
Danke für Ihr Interesse an unseren Produkten.
For any questions don't hesitate to contact us. In the meantime
Für Fragen sind wir jederzeit für Sie da.
Kind regards/MfG
Customer Service

They do send devices at the moment, mine will arrive today. (regarding the track and trace from UPS)

it's actually funny that they still delay devices / steal money by refusing to refund, while building a cloud service which requires thousands of moduls.

SwissMiner

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Quote from: rmb2u on July 03, 2014, 02:57:45 AM

They do send devices at the moment, mine will arrive today. (regarding the track and trace from UPS)

.. not sure they do send bricks with COD Grin

rmb2u

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Quote from: SwissMiner on July 03, 2014, 02:40:35 AM

ANOTHER LIE?

Your request (nnnn) has been solved. To reopen this request, reply to this email.

Antonio (Bitmine AG)
Jul 02 hh:mm
Dear Sir,
tomorrow the devices will be shipped to you,
you will be receiving also an email with the tracking number.
Thanks
for your interests in our products.
Danke für Ihr Interesse an unseren Produkten.
For any questions don't hesitate to contact us. In the meantime
Für Fragen sind wir jederzeit für Sie da.
Kind regards/MfG
Customer Service

They do send devices at the moment, mine will arrive today. (regarding the track and trace from UPS)

SwissMiner

sr. member

Activity: 294

Merit: 250

ANOTHER LIE?

Your request (nnnn) has been solved. To reopen this request, reply to this email.

Antonio (Bitmine AG)
Jul 02 hh:mm
Dear Sir,
tomorrow the devices will be shipped to you,
you will be receiving also an email with the tracking number.
Thanks
for your interests in our products.
Danke für Ihr Interesse an unseren Produkten.
For any questions don't hesitate to contact us. In the meantime
Für Fragen sind wir jederzeit für Sie da.
Kind regards/MfG
Customer Service

nyrlas

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The thing more sad is that giorgiomassa is always online in the forum reading us and don't show his face to say anything to all the people who he lied. I hope someone who lives in switzerland will do real action...

giorgiotheclown

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Quote from: giorgiotheclown on July 02, 2014, 05:36:32 PM

oh really mr. i speak the only truth? you are funny. are you swiss lawyer?

Ok you are right giorgiotheclown! Sorry for my ignorance!
I apologize profoundly for my wrong testify.

I think you stand for disposal to take on all orders for the legal claims for compensation.
Of course free of charge for the people here. Finally, you win all the cases.
So no risk for you an your clients. Bitmine will cover all the cost.

whats wrong with you? bitmine.ch customer savior.

they had allready schadensersatzforderungen and lost it punk. ask zephir.

i think you need profesionall help or hobby...

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