Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread - page 61. (Read 48695 times)

After the next release that will go out in the next few days you can port forward 80 and 5000 to your external IP address, and you'll be able to access the dashboard remotely. Latest release has security fixes that made our UI vulnerable to exploits that should be patched up now

Thank you.  I was hoping for something a little more straightforward so I could use awesomeminer to monitor the FutureBit as well as my other rigs for one consolidated view.  Maybe in a future release...

I would recommend searching using https://ninjastic.space/.

In this case:
https://ninjastic.space/search?content=API&topic_id=5340015

The first hit is your post and the second is one by jstefanop that explains how to access the 'API'.

I've searched the forum, but couldn't find anything.  Is there any way to allow the miner to be monitored externally?   Something like the -api-allow switch?  If so, where and how is it done?

Are the new ones coming with the updated firmware already?

'Right now' as in 'in the next release'? Since the latest version on page 1 is still from December '21 and the following message is still up.

There is nothing preventing you from installing any linux app on the desktop right now, but yes updating normally will no longer brick the system as long as you dont do anything crazy like a dist upgrade. Both the Armbian subsystem and linux kernel have been updated to 5.15.x

Second this! I did test for 0.3.1 and would love to be able to give the latest build a go and feedback should it be required

Is there a beta testing group?

That's good to hear! Also great that this 'app ecosystem' is coming. But will it also allow people to update packages and operating system normally through their package manager?
Being able to use this as a 'desktop computer' has been one of its main selling points from day one, to be honest, so there are customers waiting for this update for literally years now.

And will it have the latest version of Armbian and nodeJS? Because the web dashboard as of now doesn't run on latest node..

FYI this has already been fixed in the next firmware image that should be released in the next few weeks.

Its a large update that fixes all remaining security and image issues and lays the foundation for big feature updates now that we finally have both unit production and image software at a mature state. We'll finally be able to launch our app ecosystem and we have been listening to all the feature requests and will start rolling these out in the next few months!

Installing software on your Apollo will more often than not require you to update your existing packages using apt upgrade, which is heavily discouraged by jstefanop to avoid bricking the miner.


If you want to install more software on it, I'd recommend installing a whole new OS on a new microSD (keep the original one for backup), that way you can also experiment more freely without fear of breaking anything in general.
Boot from microSD is honestly one of the greatest features of these single board computers, since it allows to do these types of experiments easily.

My guide explains how to install everything that comes with Apollo except the web GUI, which I'm still working on, plus Lightning and Electrum.
[Guide] Futurebit Apollo BTC Custom Linux Install - Base

I would run it on a standalone PI and leave the miner SBC to do what it does.

Anyone tried running Home Assistant from their Apollo?

Figure if it's online 24/7 maybe I can use it to host a local Home Assistant server at the same time.

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/

I'm hopeful and optimistic. Would love nothing more than to see this all to pan out on Kano's solo pool for his efforts and guidance.

I am thinking you will hit soon. Maybe with the one I sold you. Maybe with sidehack's but I feel a hit.

I got a block of Doge with the Apollo doge. 10000 doge sold at 6 cents = 600 paid off the apollo for me.

@Nonce

The BTC gods have been good to me so I want to give back and hopefully show that I can be successful again by using home / hobby miners using hardware from Futurebit and GekkoScience.

In my case I sold off all of my 3.5GH ETH mining setup over the past months and the in turn used that $ to buy more home BTC mining gear. So it wasn't really money out of pocket since my ETH rigs have more than paid for themselves over the years and I'm a geek who loves to tinker with stuff so this makes me happy. The electric bill is a big nut to crack but I am handling it every month without concern.

Now on the Apollo side I do only have 1 "Full" BTC node running in my environment although I do have several "Full" versions of the Apollo running (without the drive) so they aren't really doing anything more than being used as controllers / guis to access them and the 3 standards attached to each.

Even with the Apollo's running at 89-90% Power and 60 Frequency the noise is not audible from outside my "space" (Garage) and the heat is tamed with slow quiet fans blowing on the units (again all reused from my GPU mining) and a simple intake with negative pressure thanks to well placed exhaust fans.

I had 2 x S9's initially for testing and no matter how much I tried I just couldn't manage the noise effectively so I opted to go this route which I am quite pleased with.

I will also continue to buy professional miners and have them hosted in a proper colocation center when the timing and funds are right but this is a personal mission / journey that I am glad to share with everyone.

I see, so it's a more 'philosophical' motivation, then..
Yeah; home mining is great, just that you miss out on 'economy of scale' when buying dozens of low-hashpower units instead of a handful of big miners.

Again, I dig these as single devices; if I had more than one, I'd also 'geographically spread' them a little, too! Just not sold on running dozens of them in one spot. At full throttle they're also not 'silent' either.

Oh I see; so this is indeed not an industrial space, but your home space, which is why you need low noise. That makes more sense.
Yet again, in case you're ever going to play with the idea of bringing those S19s home; there are very creative ideas to run them at low noise, too.

Bitcoin home mining on Twitter.

I'm on a mission to find a block with these just like I did with the Compac F's (which I am now running 30 of as well). If you look close you can see them in the rack as well as my table behind the rack. I have all 16 of these and 30 Compac F's pointed at Kano's solo pool equaling about 65TH/s.

I really like what these little miners / nodes stand for and do which to me helping secure the BTC blockchain while mining from home. I dig it!!!!

I even went out and bought my parents and nieces / nephews a full node as well as gifts.

I'm pushing right around 14TH @ 1000w with each row of 4 Apollo's and plan to add another standard to each tier. 4 of the batch 4 have been pre-ordered.

I do also have 4 x S19APro's @ 110TH each running @ DelmavaBlockchain which are pointed at ck's pool.

The motherboard is dormant remnants of my Eth rigs which are now offline for about 4 months. Great re-use of the empty racks though.

Heat and noise really prevent me from running larger miners in my existing space.

Wow, that's an insane setup!

My only question would be what's the motivation behind getting 16 apollos and running them in a basically industrial setting, when it comes to upfront cost, location and equipment.
These 16 machines should give you roughly 50TH/s, pulling roughly 4kW and costing over $8k.

When for $2k you can get four Antminer S9s, with similar total hashrate and 5.6kW. Sure, a bit higher power costs, but the extra $6k is a lot to spend on power.
Or you could spend a bit more, roughly $10k on a S19, pull less power (3.5kW) and do almost triple the hashrate ~140TH/s.

My impression of the Apollo is that it's nice as a single 'desktop' unit, where noise is crucial and you just want to 'get your toes wet', without spending too much money on hardware and power.
But it doesn't really scale; for more hash, as long as you have a space to put them where noise doesn't bother you (such as what I can tell in your picture), getting 1 or 2 industrial miners usually nets you more hash and less power draw.